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  • @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    @the-gipper said:

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    From the way he has posted, I think its ONLY because he is not named Kareem Hunt

  • @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    @the-gipper said:

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

  • @gunz41 said:

    That is your reply? So when you cant refute it you just throw something random out?

    Ok, I'll bite. White RBs don't last. Neither do RBs who are caught on camera abusing women.

    But you obviously missed the entire point. How did they "dominating" go when the Browns already had the 2? But nobody ever said Hunt wasn't a good player. But his best year doesn't compare to just the one person I named. You talking about him makes him sound like the best back in the league.

    And please try and explain why the Chiefs would want to trade Hill for OBJ? What is the benefit for them?

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

    @skippinturtles said:

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

    But you are failing to answer the questions at hand. I never said that White RBs last. I never said anything about Jim Brown. And I never said anything about OBJ not being great.

    But if you want to be taken seriously, then answer a few questions.

    What is it that you have seen to show that Hunt is the most complete, dominant back (or whatever the words were you used) in the league and since Faulk? Because there is no evidence of that, as shown by the statistics.

    You referenced no white RB being sustained since Riggins. Have no issue agreeing with you there, but if you are going to use that to prove a point (even though I don't think his skin color applies), then how can using his violent history not be the same thing? And the thing is, there is actual evidence to support it with Hunt. And I am not saying he doesn't deserve this 2nd chance.

    You say Hill is great and OBJ are both great. But YOU are the one who said trade Beckham to Chiefs for Hill like it should be an easy thing. So again I will ask, WHY WOULD THE CHIEFS DO THAT? 

    And again for posterity sake, explain how what McCaffrey did this year isn't sustainable, or how his career has been more impressive than Hunt, yet Hunt is the one you seem to bet on going forward.

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    @tiamat63 said:

    You're being trolled.

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    Isn't this thread dead yet?  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    You're being trolled.

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    Isn't this thread dead yet?  

    @mjp28 said:

    Isn't this thread dead yet?  

    nope... still moving when it's hit...

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  • @skippinturtles said:

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

    But you are failing to answer the questions at hand. I never said that White RBs last. I never said anything about Jim Brown. And I never said anything about OBJ not being great.

    But if you want to be taken seriously, then answer a few questions.

    What is it that you have seen to show that Hunt is the most complete, dominant back (or whatever the words were you used) in the league and since Faulk? Because there is no evidence of that, as shown by the statistics.

    You referenced no white RB being sustained since Riggins. Have no issue agreeing with you there, but if you are going to use that to prove a point (even though I don't think his skin color applies), then how can using his violent history not be the same thing? And the thing is, there is actual evidence to support it with Hunt. And I am not saying he doesn't deserve this 2nd chance.

    You say Hill is great and OBJ are both great. But YOU are the one who said trade Beckham to Chiefs for Hill like it should be an easy thing. So again I will ask, WHY WOULD THE CHIEFS DO THAT? 

    And again for posterity sake, explain how what McCaffrey did this year isn't sustainable, or how his career has been more impressive than Hunt, yet Hunt is the one you seem to bet on going forward.

    @gunz41 said:

    But you are failing to answer the questions at hand. I never said that White RBs last. I never said anything about Jim Brown. And I never said anything about OBJ not being great.

    But if you want to be taken seriously, then answer a few questions.

    What is it that you have seen to show that Hunt is the most complete, dominant back (or whatever the words were you used) in the league and since Faulk? Because there is no evidence of that, as shown by the statistics.

    You referenced no white RB being sustained since Riggins. Have no issue agreeing with you there, but if you are going to use that to prove a point (even though I don't think his skin color applies), then how can using his violent history not be the same thing? And the thing is, there is actual evidence to support it with Hunt. And I am not saying he doesn't deserve this 2nd chance.

    You say Hill is great and OBJ are both great. But YOU are the one who said trade Beckham to Chiefs for Hill like it should be an easy thing. So again I will ask, WHY WOULD THE CHIEFS DO THAT? 

    And again for posterity sake, explain how what McCaffrey did this year isn't sustainable, or how his career has been more impressive than Hunt, yet Hunt is the one you seem to bet on going forward.

    Kareem Hunt has a legendary stiff-arm.  Never fumbles.  Pure receiver.  Potential for growth.  Only 24.  Pay him and Chubb.

  • @the-gipper said:

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

    @skippinturtles said:

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

  • Why is every obvious troll job continually given life to by the same people on here? 

  • Why is every obvious troll job continually given life to by the same people on here? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Why is every obvious troll job continually given life to by the same people on here? 

    It's just in their nature.

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  • @skippinturtles said:

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

    CM is great.  Not sure how he got in the discussion.  I like Hunt healthy and hopefully Chubb for the next 6-8 years.  Would love more.  Start drafting guards.  Protect lil' Bake and pound the rock.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

    CM is great.  Not sure how he got in the discussion.  I like Hunt healthy and hopefully Chubb for the next 6-8 years.  Would love more.  Start drafting guards.  Protect lil' Bake and pound the rock.

    @skippinturtles said:

    CM is great.  Not sure how he got in the discussion.  I like Hunt healthy and hopefully Chubb for the next 6-8 years.  Would love more.  Start drafting guards.  Protect lil' Bake and pound the rock.

    Since you refuse to answer the question,   I will put the words in your mouth that you refuse to say:   Answer:  "Nothing, there is nothing about McCaffrey's game that is not sustainable.  I am just  racist against white RBs". 

  • Anybody heard anything about whether or not Stefanski wants Hunt? I guess it's probably too early to know but man...I'd really like to have him back. Our red zone and goal line efficiency HAD to increase, although I don't have any stats to prove it. 

  • Anybody heard anything about whether or not Stefanski wants Hunt? I guess it's probably too early to know but man...I'd really like to have him back. Our red zone and goal line efficiency HAD to increase, although I don't have any stats to prove it. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Anybody heard anything about whether or not Stefanski wants Hunt? I guess it's probably too early to know but man...I'd really like to have him back. Our red zone and goal line efficiency HAD to increase, although I don't have any stats to prove it. 

    Nov 13 -.  Yes they had issues. Some was play design and calling along with the OL.

    BEREA, Ohio -- The Browns have struggled in the red zone and on the goal line this season, which is putting it kindly. It has been a grind for this team to finish drives.

    The Browns, according to the NFL’s game stats and information site, are No. 26 in red zone percentage at 46.67 percent. Near the goal line, it’s worse. According to the NFL’s game stats and information site, the Browns are No. 29 in goal-to-go percentage at 47.37 percent. Only the Lions, Jaguars and Dolphins have been worse.

  • Hunt brings more than just what stats can bring.. When a player, that is use to winning, can openly speak out about other teammates not giving their all on each snap. Those are intangibles that we need that fits Bitonio's quote "We need to just win some f'ing games".. Stef valued the combination of RB's at Vikings and I see the same here, while adding a true FB into the mix. Hope is Hunt takes a reasonable deal cause Hilliard ain't no Hunt.. TE Demetrius Harris should be the X-Dorsey KC Chief out the exit door,, imho.. 

  • Hunt brings more than just what stats can bring.. When a player, that is use to winning, can openly speak out about other teammates not giving their all on each snap. Those are intangibles that we need that fits Bitonio's quote "We need to just win some f'ing games".. Stef valued the combination of RB's at Vikings and I see the same here, while adding a true FB into the mix. Hope is Hunt takes a reasonable deal cause Hilliard ain't no Hunt.. TE Demetrius Harris should be the X-Dorsey KC Chief out the exit door,, imho.. 

    @gumby73 said:

    Stef valued the combination of RB's at Vikings...

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Stef valued the combination of RB's at Vikings...

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

    @tour2ma said:

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

    Then why did we at one time have the likes of Mack and Byner on this team?  Pruitt and Pruitt?  I think it could certainly work.

    I know, I know...you gotta do a proper allocation of the salary cap.  Why does it seem that it is just the Browns that get fucked by that situation? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

    Then why did we at one time have the likes of Mack and Byner on this team?  Pruitt and Pruitt?  I think it could certainly work.

    I know, I know...you gotta do a proper allocation of the salary cap.  Why does it seem that it is just the Browns that get fucked by that situation? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Then why did we at one time have the likes of Mack and Byner on this team?  Pruitt and Pruitt?  

    Because this isn't 40 years ago.  

  • @gumby73 said:

    Stef valued the combination of RB's at Vikings...

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

    @tour2ma said:

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

    It's a odder fit knowing Dorsey is out of Hunts future control hands.. and were not paying Chubb nor Baker for 2 more years so why not Hunt for 2 more? Is their a feature RB team am not seeing but maybe Detroit or Redskins that will overpay for Hunt? It will only take one

  • @tour2ma said:

    Which was a lead dog (Cook), a vet/journeyman (Abdullah) and a couple unknown pups. We have our lead dog so where does Hunt fit?

    NFL teams simply don't invest heavily enough in RBs to keep 2 or starter quality RBs on a roster beyond their rookie deals.

    It's a odder fit knowing Dorsey is out of Hunts future control hands.. and were not paying Chubb nor Baker for 2 more years so why not Hunt for 2 more? Is their a feature RB team am not seeing but maybe Detroit or Redskins that will overpay for Hunt? It will only take one

    @gumby73 said:

    It's a odder fit knowing Dorsey is out of Hunts future control hands.. and were not paying Chubb nor Baker for 2 more years so why not Hunt for 2 more? Is their a feature RB team am not seeing but maybe Detroit or Redskins that will overpay for Hunt? It will only take one

    You don't need teams to "overpay" to get a healthy return for a trade.  

    Redskins would be a sweet landing spot though.  Hunt goes out of conference so we don't have that coming back to hurt us in the AFC,  Haskins gets a top 10 back to take pressure off of him and they should have great draft assets.