OBJ underwent surgery on core.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098238/article/odell-beckham-underwent-core-muscle-surgery
That could explain his lack of production (28th) while being a top 5 paid WR.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098238/article/odell-beckham-underwent-core-muscle-surgery
That could explain his lack of production (28th) while being a top 5 paid WR.
Nick Bosa lost most of his final year at OSU to a similar injury, no? Maybe we are lucky to have gotten out of him what we did.
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Showing up to all of the voluntary OTAs in the spring would've gone a long way to preventing a soft tissue injury in August once he finally did get to camp and obviously out of prime football shape.
Showing up to all of the voluntary OTAs in the spring would've gone a long way to preventing a soft tissue injury in August once he finally did get to camp and obviously out of prime football shape.
That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
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Showing up to all of the voluntary OTAs in the spring would've gone a long way to preventing a soft tissue injury in August once he finally did get to camp and obviously out of prime football shape.
That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
If he needed surgery on "core" that's no joke.
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That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
If he needed surgery on "core" that's no joke.
If he needed surgery on "core" that's no joke.
I've had to rehab many times and it starts with the core! And yes you can play through some core issues if you can take the pain.
I had surgery on my left pelvis in 2019 they went through the hip joint area to get to that. After the hospital stay was over it was back to rehab starting with those core exercises.
That's also where your power comes from in a lot of sports.
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Showing up to all of the voluntary OTAs in the spring would've gone a long way to preventing a soft tissue injury in August once he finally did get to camp and obviously out of prime football shape.
That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
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That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
Well....every muscle in your body is soft tissue then If you tear a muscle it ain't no soft tissue injury.
And I can tell you right now....from experience.....a soft tissue injury is often more painful and harder to heal from than a broken bone. Fact.
The only people that argue that "soft tissue" injuries are minor is anyone who has never had one, or insurance company adjusters. That's not what you do, is it?
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It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
Well....every muscle in your body is soft tissue then If you tear a muscle it ain't no soft tissue injury.
And I can tell you right now....from experience.....a soft tissue injury is often more painful and harder to heal from than a broken bone. Fact.
The only people that argue that "soft tissue" injuries are minor is anyone who has never had one, or insurance company adjusters. That's not what you do, is it?
.......And I can tell you right now....from experience.....a soft tissue injury is often more painful and harder to heal from than a broken bone. Fact.
True. You can put most bone recoveries on a time table.
Some soft tissue injuries can linger forever. Same with nerve damage, been there. Nice discussing other people's injuries.
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I hope they fixed the screws in his head while they were done there... But , I'm not holdin' my breath!
I hope they fixed the screws in his head while they were done there... But , I'm not holdin' my breath!
In his head, or in his neck?
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In his head, or in his neck?
Dude.. I would trust Frankenstein before I ever trusted OBJ...
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Showing up to all of the voluntary OTAs in the spring would've gone a long way to preventing a soft tissue injury in August once he finally did get to camp and obviously out of prime football shape.
That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
Well....every muscle in your body is soft tissue then If you tear a muscle it ain't no soft tissue injury.
And I can tell you right now....from experience.....a soft tissue injury is often more painful and harder to heal from than a broken bone. Fact.
The only people that argue that "soft tissue" injuries are minor is anyone who has never had one, or insurance company adjusters. That's not what you do, is it?
So in your first statement you make it sound like there's no way hes going for surgery if it's a soft tissue injury essentially degrading a soft tissue injury. Then follow it up with saying how they hurt more than bone injuries and a statement about "soft tissue" injuries are not minor.
Where exactly did dbone say a soft tissue injury is a minor injury? The only person that appears to even hint at soft tissue injuries being minor is yourself with the if you have surgery it's not soft tissue injury remark.
Also tearing a muscle would be considered a soft tissue injury as muscles tendons and ligaments are soft tissues.
Whether you chip, fracture, break, or shatter a bone it's a skeletal injury. Just have whether to sprain, strain, tear, or shred a muscle it is still an injury to a soft tissue (therefore a soft tissue injury?)
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That is wholly speculative...like saying had a player been at June OTAs that he would have avoided a knee injury in September. Pure poppycock.
And I can tell you for certain that if someone is going for surgery, it is certainly NOT considered a soft tissue injury. I have dealt with soft tissue injuries in my career with some personal injury cases.
It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
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It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
I had a groin pull in high school from training and running steps and it was a real bitch! Took forever before it went away.
Remember too you can have different degrees and tears of muscles.....no fun. Pulled an arch once too not as bad as the groin pull.
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It is soft tissue. It's not structural or skeletal. It's soft tissue.
...... and to compare a core soft tissue injury to a knee injury is poppycock. Even for you.
Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
Yes. Many non contact soft tissue injuries in professional athletes are attributed to lack of specific sport conditioning...... ever hear of a player holding out for more money, missing all of camp, signing the week before opening day and then missing significant time with a pulled hamstring or groin? I sure have.
I don't like OBJ. Never have. Probably never will - even if he wears Brown and Orange...... I don't have Brown and Orange blinders like a vast majority of people on this forum do.
All I'm saying is maybe if his Highness would've shown up to all team activities, then maybe he would've avoided a non contact, soft tissue injury resulting in a season of lack luster play, ultimately hurting the other 52 dudes on the field.
He'll never wear a C on his chest.
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Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
Yes. Many non contact soft tissue injuries in professional athletes are attributed to lack of specific sport conditioning...... ever hear of a player holding out for more money, missing all of camp, signing the week before opening day and then missing significant time with a pulled hamstring or groin? I sure have.
I don't like OBJ. Never have. Probably never will - even if he wears Brown and Orange...... I don't have Brown and Orange blinders like a vast majority of people on this forum do.
All I'm saying is maybe if his Highness would've shown up to all team activities, then maybe he would've avoided a non contact, soft tissue injury resulting in a season of lack luster play, ultimately hurting the other 52 dudes on the field.
He'll never wear a C on his chest.
Yes. Many non contact soft tissue injuries in professional athletes are attributed to lack of specific sport conditioning...... ever hear of a player holding out for more money, missing all of camp, signing the week before opening day and then missing significant time with a pulled hamstring or groin? I sure have.
I don't like OBJ. Never have. Probably never will - even if he wears Brown and Orange...... I don't have Brown and Orange blinders like a vast majority of people on this forum do.
All I'm saying is maybe if his Highness would've shown up to all team activities, then maybe he would've avoided a non contact, soft tissue injury resulting in a season of lack luster play, ultimately hurting the other 52 dudes on the field.
He'll never wear a C on his chest.
I don't disagree with anything you said. I actually think Browns would be better off without him. Enough already. Last I checked, one hand catches in pre-game don't win games.
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Is a groin injury a soft tissue injury? I had a few of those and one last for over 6 months, not a joke, no way could I have played with it.
Yes. Many non contact soft tissue injuries in professional athletes are attributed to lack of specific sport conditioning...... ever hear of a player holding out for more money, missing all of camp, signing the week before opening day and then missing significant time with a pulled hamstring or groin? I sure have.
I don't like OBJ. Never have. Probably never will - even if he wears Brown and Orange...... I don't have Brown and Orange blinders like a vast majority of people on this forum do.
All I'm saying is maybe if his Highness would've shown up to all team activities, then maybe he would've avoided a non contact, soft tissue injury resulting in a season of lack luster play, ultimately hurting the other 52 dudes on the field.
He'll never wear a C on his chest.
Yes. Many non contact soft tissue injuries in professional athletes are attributed to lack of specific sport conditioning...... ever hear of a player holding out for more money, missing all of camp, signing the week before opening day and then missing significant time with a pulled hamstring or groin? I sure have.
Football game shape.
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Yes. Many non contact soft tissue injuries in professional athletes are attributed to lack of specific sport conditioning...... ever hear of a player holding out for more money, missing all of camp, signing the week before opening day and then missing significant time with a pulled hamstring or groin? I sure have.
I don't like OBJ. Never have. Probably never will - even if he wears Brown and Orange...... I don't have Brown and Orange blinders like a vast majority of people on this forum do.
All I'm saying is maybe if his Highness would've shown up to all team activities, then maybe he would've avoided a non contact, soft tissue injury resulting in a season of lack luster play, ultimately hurting the other 52 dudes on the field.
He'll never wear a C on his chest.
I don't disagree with anything you said. I actually think Browns would be better off without him. Enough already. Last I checked, one hand catches in pre-game don't win games.
I don't disagree with anything you said. I actually think Browns would be better off without him. Enough already. Last I checked, one hand catches in pre-game don't win games.
Right on! One handed catches and hot dogging during pre game isn’t needed, especially when your dropping passes and not winning.
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All I'm saying is maybe if his Highness would've shown up to all team activities, then maybe he would've avoided a non contact, soft tissue injury resulting in a season of lack luster play, ultimately hurting the other 52 dudes on the field.
Or...probably not.
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