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  • tiamat63 tiamat63T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Month Later One Year In Very Popular
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    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    What's that saying? 

    Hope for the best but....

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    • tiamat63T tiamat63

      What's that saying? 

      Hope for the best but....

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      @tiamat63 said:

      What's that saying? 

      Hope for the best but....

      Piensa mal y acertarás. 

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        B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by
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        I'm all on board with this hire. He is considered one of the best up and comers in the front office. He has experience working for the Colts with Polian (old school), Sashi (analytics), and Roseman (blend) over his short career in the front office. I think he has now seen how a front office can be run from multiple angles and he is going to adapt. IMOP, he is a great blend of what we need in that front office as he has worked everything from a scout to college and pro personnel, to contracts and business management. I think he is going to empower guys like Wolf and Hightower to do what they are good at which is scouting and the analytics people to do what they do best. I know people are going to crush him about the Sashi era (I hope he gets asked about it in the press conference) but he can only learn from that situation and become better.

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          @tiamat63 said:

          What's that saying? 

          Hope for the best but....

          Piensa mal y acertarás. 

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          @nero said:

          Piensa mal y acertarás. 

          Necesitamos esperanza!

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            Frank DixonF Frank Dixon wrote on last edited by
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            Hopefully this works out.

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              I'm all on board with this hire. He is considered one of the best up and comers in the front office. He has experience working for the Colts with Polian (old school), Sashi (analytics), and Roseman (blend) over his short career in the front office. I think he has now seen how a front office can be run from multiple angles and he is going to adapt. IMOP, he is a great blend of what we need in that front office as he has worked everything from a scout to college and pro personnel, to contracts and business management. I think he is going to empower guys like Wolf and Hightower to do what they are good at which is scouting and the analytics people to do what they do best. I know people are going to crush him about the Sashi era (I hope he gets asked about it in the press conference) but he can only learn from that situation and become better.

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              @bigalow80 said:

              I'm all on board with this hire. He is considered one of the best up and comers in the front office. He has experience working for the Colts with Polian (old school), Sashi (analytics), and Roseman (blend) over his short career in the front office. I think he has now seen how a front office can be run from multiple angles and he is going to adapt. IMOP, he is a great blend of what we need in that front office as he has worked everything from a scout to college and pro personnel, to contracts and business management. I think he is going to empower guys like Wolf and Hightower to do what they are good at which is scouting and the analytics people to do what they do best. I know people are going to crush him about the Sashi era (I hope he gets asked about it in the press conference) but he can only learn from that situation and become better.

              This is an epic joke.. LOL... The Browns love losing and want to ensure losing.. its a losing business model that is making Haslam money..

              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                Frank DixonF Frank Dixon wrote on last edited by
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                Can he bring in the talent in FA and draft talent? That remains to be seen.

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                  IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                  Yay! A warm body willingly took the job!

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                    Can he bring in the talent in FA and draft talent? That remains to be seen.

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @frank-dixon said:

                    Can he bring in the talent in FA and draft talent? That remains to be seen.

                    As would be the case with ant 1st-time GM.

                    In retrospect Berry seemed preordained... only real hurdle was being sure that Stef liked him, which he did. Real question is how does the organization work?

                    It would seem to be up to Berry to blend the analytic and traditional scouting approaches into player decisions, but those two inputs don't meet at his level. Then add an expanded HC/Staff role in player selection and I don't know what you have.

                    Collaboration sounds great, but it isn't a decision process.

                    I, too, will be interested in his Intro Presser...

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                      I'm all on board with this hire. He is considered one of the best up and comers in the front office. He has experience working for the Colts with Polian (old school), Sashi (analytics), and Roseman (blend) over his short career in the front office. I think he has now seen how a front office can be run from multiple angles and he is going to adapt. IMOP, he is a great blend of what we need in that front office as he has worked everything from a scout to college and pro personnel, to contracts and business management. I think he is going to empower guys like Wolf and Hightower to do what they are good at which is scouting and the analytics people to do what they do best. I know people are going to crush him about the Sashi era (I hope he gets asked about it in the press conference) but he can only learn from that situation and become better.

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                      IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                      @bigalow80 said:

                      I'm all on board with this hire. He is considered one of the best up and comers in the front office. He has experience working for the Colts with Polian (old school), Sashi (analytics), and Roseman (blend) over his short career in the front office. I think he has now seen how a front office can be run from multiple angles and he is going to adapt. IMOP, he is a great blend of what we need in that front office as he has worked everything from a scout to college and pro personnel, to contracts and business management. I think he is going to empower guys like Wolf and Hightower to do what they are good at which is scouting and the analytics people to do what they do best. I know people are going to crush him about the Sashi era (I hope he gets asked about it in the press conference) but he can only learn from that situation and become better.

                      Hightower?

                      https://images.app.goo.gl/MyfVFJpfQ5a625Pz6

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                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                        Still wondering where DePo fits into the power structure.

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                          Still wondering where DePo fits into the power structure.

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                          @tiamat63 said:

                          Still wondering where DePo fits into the power structure.

                          In the middle of the room, shouting "Just please stop" amidst the flames and chaos. 

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                            Works for me. Sounds like our coach and GM will be aligned in their philosophy of football. 

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                            hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                            @jiggins7919 said:

                            Works for me. Sounds like our coach and GM will be aligned in their philosophy of football. 

                            We can only hope.

                            @nickers said:

                            Fuck it.. I'm done with these idiots...

                            Come on, you can say that now- but you know you're not.  🙂 

                            @tour2ma said:

                            As would be the case with ant 1st-time GM.

                            In retrospect Berry seemed preordained... only real hurdle was being sure that Stef liked him, which he did. Real question is how does the organization work?

                            It would seem to be up to Berry to blend the analytic and traditional scouting approaches into player decisions, but those two inputs don't meet at his level. Then add an expanded HC/Staff role in player selection and I don't know what you have.

                            Collaboration sounds great, but it isn't a decision process.

                            I, too, will be interested in his Intro Presser...

                            Until proven otherwise Tour, the Browns organization is FUBAR. You're the management guru. Don't know who previously pointed it out, but looks like Jimmy has too many people reporting directly to him equal in the power structure. If they start infighting it's curtains. I'll give Berry a temporary pass just because he was here during the Sashi debacle. 

                            @tiamat63 said:

                            Still wondering where DePo fits into the power structure.

                            Why, Dope-po, I mean Depodesta is the ace #1 major domo pulling Haslam's strings. At least that's how I see it. I hope to God he wasn't the major factor (other than Jimmy) responsible for the Browns clown show since he arrived on the scene. He's the only other constant. I've said it elsewhere if Stefansky flops, it's the end of Paul- and this time it will be a total Haslam Nuke of everything. Or maybe, Jimmy will finally figure out he doesn't have a clue on how to run an NFL Franchise.... 

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                              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                              FYI....

                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimmywatkins/2020/01/27/new-browns-gm-andrew-berry/#70a8456f3646

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                                stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                                While the dude is older than me, he's still only (32).

                                Again, Jimmy is hiring young inexperienced people to both GM and head coach and having them report to him separate. This is a toxic formula, and that Jimmy demands massive success right away it's just unrealistic. He'll get impatient and blow it up and we'll have to start over. I think he's too "proud" to do that, but what else is he to do if we can't make .500 in the next couple years.

                                Overall this is just pure chaos. I do not trust Jimmy and said that all back in the Pettine era.

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                                  OK, another piece of the 1-31 is back in place.  Should I even say that they can't do as badly this time?  

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'm thrilled by this hire.

                                    The Process fans have no "dumb football guys" to blame when this goes down in flames. No Hue backstabbing Sashi, no Dorsey ignoring DePodesta… 

                                    They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on. 

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                                      I'm thrilled by this hire.

                                      The Process fans have no "dumb football guys" to blame when this goes down in flames. No Hue backstabbing Sashi, no Dorsey ignoring DePodesta… 

                                      They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on. 

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on. 

                                      As I said earlier, (yesterday?), three different guys directly reporting to Haslam is a recipe for disaster.  They should plan to be the LAST one in his ear.  That's the guy he listens to.    

                                      This set up MIGHT work ok if someone else was in Haslam's place.

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                                        OK, another piece of the 1-31 is back in place.  Should I even say that they can't do as badly this time?  

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                                        @orion said:

                                        OK, another piece of the 1-31 is back in place.  Should I even say that they can't do as badly this time?  

                                        It will be mighty hard to replicate that era of suckitude....  Even the sucky Bungles managed to win a couple this year (one at our expense), and the deliberately tanking Dolphins did even better than that....  

                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        I'm thrilled by this hire.

                                        The Process fans have no "dumb football guys" to blame when this goes down in flames. No Hue backstabbing Sashi, no Dorsey ignoring DePodesta… 

                                        They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on. 

                                        But they all played football in college..... So they're all smart nerdy guys.  😁 Gonna be a virtual love fest in the Front Office..... 

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on. 

                                          As I said earlier, (yesterday?), three different guys directly reporting to Haslam is a recipe for disaster.  They should plan to be the LAST one in his ear.  That's the guy he listens to.    

                                          This set up MIGHT work ok if someone else was in Haslam's place.

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                                          @orion said:

                                          As I said earlier, (yesterday?), three different guys directly reporting to Haslam is a recipe for disaster.  They should plan to be the LAST one in his ear.  That's the guy he listens to.    

                                          This set up MIGHT work ok if someone else was in Haslam's place.

                                          If someone else was in Haslam's place, I doubt this cockamamie scheme would be in place. In the first place.  😁  One more screw up and it's official- Haslam will have topped Dan Snyder on the bad owner scale. Some would say he's already there.......   I vote he's already topped Jerry Jones on the meddlesome owner part.  

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