Our current free agents.....
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Definitely don’t want to see Hunt, Randall or Shobert walk
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https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/2/11/21132919/list-of-the-cleveland-browns-free-agents
Only a couple I would like to keep.
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/2/11/21132919/list-of-the-cleveland-browns-free-agents
Only a couple I would like to keep.
Be interesting if the Browns want to keep Schobert- he's on record he wants to stay. Tour may not agree, but I say put a second round tender on Hunt, instead of original round (3rd) costs an extra million if no one else is interested.
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Definitely don’t want to see Hunt, Randall or Shobert walk
Beat me to it- Hunt will definitely be tendered, only question is at what level, and if other teams offer him a contract- will the Browns match, or just be happy to take the draft pick?
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MLB Joe Schobert
S Damarious RandallLet them all hit the market.
So, what is it about those two where you say they can come or go?
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I’d rather see what’s out there then overpaying or even getting a discount for Randall.
Joe Show flashed big time in some games played pretty average in others. I believe we will now have to seriously compete with other offers. Anything crazy or Top 3 type money for that position and I let him walk.
Kareem Hunt should be kept.
Seals Jones is more reliable than Njoku he stays
Cox is good depth piece. He should be more productive second go round than a rookie or any other FA at his level.
I give Burris and Hollywood fair offers too
....all else time to move on
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I'd like to see what Stefanski's mob could do with Higgins. He showed some promise until Freddie got a hold of him.
I'd like to keep Hunt until he gets himself kicked out-a the league again. He was good and a real team player last year.
Schobert is pretty good. He's a good pass defender for a MLB. (I'm not a fan of creating needs during the offseason)
Randall is fairly good...but he's not fast.
Ricky Lee Jones showed a flash or two but I bet Njoku gets new life. (Njoku's another guy that Freddie refused to use. He and Higgins could make Freddie look pretty dumb if they were to go on and have good seasons for us. I think the first rounder gets a good look by the new coaches but I fear that Higgins could be allowed to walk. - when ya threw the ball at Higgins, he usually caught it. I like guys that catch the ball)
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I'd like to see what Stefanski's mob could do with Higgins. He showed some promise until Freddie got a hold of him.
I'd like to keep Hunt until he gets himself kicked out-a the league again. He was good and a real team player last year.
Schobert is pretty good. He's a good pass defender for a MLB. (I'm not a fan of creating needs during the offseason)
Randall is fairly good...but he's not fast.
Ricky Lee Jones showed a flash or two but I bet Njoku gets new life. (Njoku's another guy that Freddie refused to use. He and Higgins could make Freddie look pretty dumb if they were to go on and have good seasons for us. I think the first rounder gets a good look by the new coaches but I fear that Higgins could be allowed to walk. - when ya threw the ball at Higgins, he usually caught it. I like guys that catch the ball)
I'd like to see what Stefanski's mob could do with Higgins. He showed some promise until Freddie got a hold of him.
I'd like to keep Hunt until he gets himself kicked out-a the league again. He was good and a real team player last year.
Schobert is pretty good. He's a good pass defender for a MLB. (I'm not a fan of creating needs during the offseason)
Randall is fairly good...but he's not fast.
Ricky Lee Jones showed a flash or two but I bet Njoku gets new life. (Njoku's another guy that Freddie refused to use. He and Higgins could make Freddie look pretty dumb if they were to go on and have good seasons for us. I think the first rounder gets a good look by the new coaches but I fear that Higgins could be allowed to walk. - when ya threw the ball at Higgins, he usually caught it. I like guys that catch the ball)
Ricky Lee Jones? Do we have a Tight End named Chuck E. ?
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Definitely don’t want to see Hunt, Randall or Shobert walk
Beat me to it- Hunt will definitely be tendered, only question is at what level, and if other teams offer him a contract- will the Browns match, or just be happy to take the draft pick?
Beat me to it- Hunt will definitely be tendered, only question is at what level, and if other teams offer him a contract- will the Browns match, or just be happy to take the draft pick?
I would put a 2nd on him to help make it easy for a team to bite. I take the pick.
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Zombo said:
The damage is done, they should have been re-signed last year. Now you gotta overpay for them
Yes. Well said. But then, that's free agency....overpaying. ie, if you sell your house in a seller's market that's good....if you don't have to buy another one. If you do, then it's a wash.
If the decision is that these guys are NOT worth the money, then so be it. But if we replace them with guys that are cheaper AND not as good then where is the value? Again, I do not like creating needs in the offseason. There's gotta be GOOD reasoning behind it.
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We are starting to see a whole new crew from top to bottam at work, so we'll just have to learn how they handle things as far as signings, cuts, free agency, & the draft go.
Here are my thoughts....
Mike
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Zombo said:
Unrestricted Free Agent
These are players who the Browns have no roster control over, other than exclusive negotiating rights up until a few days before free agency.QB Drew Stanton
WR Rashard Higgins
LT Greg Robinson
MLB Joe Schobert
S Damarious Randall
S Juston Burris
S Eric MurrayLet them all hit the market.
Man.... they traded a number 33 pick in the 2nd round in Ogbah for Eric Murray and they don't even have control over him. WTF.
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Zombo said:
I'm OK with letting them hit the market. The damage is done, they should have been re-signed last year. Now you gotta overpay for them pre-free agency compared to what you may find in free agency or the draft. Let them free, and if we don't replace them right away, or the market softens on them, we can re-sign them.
I expect to be thin at both positions heading into free agency, doesn't mean we need to keep these guys at all cost. We may find MLB that Woods really wants, or a safety that can do Randall's job as good or better.
Another position of need will be OLB if Woods actually uses a third linebacker, Wilks rarely did.
I think Wilson is one starter, and we'll see how high these guys are on Taki Taki, not everyone was as much as our last front office.
Zombo
I'll agree with Orion about Schobert. If we can retain him on a reasonable contract, I'm all for it. Ticky-taki hasn't shown much, and Kirksey is always hurt. Why create another hole in a position that's already below league average?
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Cut Vernon and Kirskey saving $20 million. Pay Schobert. My work here is done. Lol
Edge rushers aren't fun to find, but we can't pay Vernon $15 mill. Maybe he'll restructure, but doubtful.
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Zombo said:
Well, how about that ... Carrie and Kush released today. Along with TE Demerrius Harris and LB Adarius Taylor.
Z
We saw the last incomplete skinny post inside the red zone to a double covered Harris with OBJ singled up and Chubb uncovered in the flat.
Although I’m not too thrilled that we lost a corner that dressed each Sunday and had the best hammies of the group
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Zombo said:
Well, how about that ... Carrie and Kush released today. Along with TE Demerrius Harris and LB Adarius Taylor.
Z
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102223/article/browns-new-gm-cuts-cb-tj-carrie-three-others
Z, I think we need a roster moves thread - and pin it.
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Zombo said:
Best hammies, worst contract.
Z
But what do you do...go with another rookie back there?
or sign a vet and hope he’s available 16 games? What’s the market rate for a serviceable vet CB?
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Zombo said:
There's better vets out there that can be had for the 6 mil plus we saved on Carrie.
Z
Who?
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Zombo said:
There's better vets out there that can be had for the 6 mil plus we saved on Carrie.
Z
Carrie was available 32 of 32 games. Started almost half of those because guys who were preferred and some better were not available.
It has historically been a tough buyers market for free agent CB.
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