Myles Garrett Reinstated
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OK- I've had it- any more off topic name calling, and guys are going to start getting penalty points and kiddie timeouts. Grow the hell up, I want to see some semi intelligent discussion- and this thread has devolved into some schoolyard taunting for the most part. I don't give a rat's ass who started it.
Well, you should give a rats ass who starts it. And I know that you know who usually does.
Other than retaliation the recipient of name calling/taunting has two choices, either shut up and take it or squeal to the moderators. Which do you prefer he does?
You're not a moderator, what would you do?
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Well, you should give a rats ass who starts it. And I know that you know who usually does.
Other than retaliation the recipient of name calling/taunting has two choices, either shut up and take it or squeal to the moderators. Which do you prefer he does?
You're not a moderator, what would you do?
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Wah, wah, wah he started it. Go back to the Poli board and call him whatever name you want to.
FWIW, in case you don't know, me and Zombo ARE the primary Moderators on the Browns Forum, and I run one hell of a lot tighter ship than Steve does on the Poli board. So kindly keep politics separated from football. I take a damn dim view of off topic personal attacks, when you stoop to that level, you've already lost the argument.
Both of you can can the crap, or I'll kick both of you off for a week. GOT IT?
You're all butthurt, aw gee Dutch is baiting you? I already deleted one of Dutch's posts. So boo hoo. He's on the same zero tolerance alert. So Suck it up, and grow up.
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I think that Mason could easily have whispered him to his ear and no mic in the world would have picked it up, even less the players around, simply because those helmets are heavy and they make a lot of sound when clashing each other. They're moving the whole time, breathing heavily... I'm no sound engineer but there's a lot of noise and movement to get a irrefutable proof out of that.
I never understood the argument "why did nobody hear it?" because being head to head wearing helmets is pretty easy to get something like that without nobody hearing it.
I'd say that though I kind of believe Myles - it was out of character for him, calm guy, you almost don't win anything mentioning it because there's no proof...- it's a "he said, he said" case like Orion said.
NFL hasn't made a statement in either direction, but I'd say that there must be a hint of doubt or something. Some of the homers here will go ballistic, but 6 games aren't that much of a penalty for a player that hit another one witha 6lb helmet in the f***ing head. He could have killed him. Period. I expected him being suspended some games this year, and him being reinstated now means to me that at least there's some truth to what Myles said.
Him mentioning it now again is something that will happen over and over. Journalist HAS to ask for it, as it was part of the story, and he has to be true to his words. Anyway, as nothing can be proved, I would prefer him saying that "he already said what he had to say" and try to move on. We are getting nowhere with this.
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I think that Mason could easily have whispered him to his ear and no mic in the world would have picked it up, even less the players around, simply because those helmets are heavy and they make a lot of sound when clashing each other. They're moving the whole time, breathing heavily... I'm no sound engineer but there's a lot of noise and movement to get a irrefutable proof out of that.
I never understood the argument "why did nobody hear it?" because being head to head wearing helmets is pretty easy to get something like that without nobody hearing it.
I'd say that though I kind of believe Myles - it was out of character for him, calm guy, you almost don't win anything mentioning it because there's no proof...- it's a "he said, he said" case like Orion said.
NFL hasn't made a statement in either direction, but I'd say that there must be a hint of doubt or something. Some of the homers here will go ballistic, but 6 games aren't that much of a penalty for a player that hit another one witha 6lb helmet in the f***ing head. He could have killed him. Period. I expected him being suspended some games this year, and him being reinstated now means to me that at least there's some truth to what Myles said.
Him mentioning it now again is something that will happen over and over. Journalist HAS to ask for it, as it was part of the story, and he has to be true to his words. Anyway, as nothing can be proved, I would prefer him saying that "he already said what he had to say" and try to move on. We are getting nowhere with this.
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Vrla Dobro!
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Lol...Garrett’s interview he’s asked how he feels about being reinstated.. he says “I was hoping for it, so I was kinda speaking it and thinking it into existence.”
That's right Myles, just like you were thinking and speaking into existence that Rudolf used a racial slur.The more a lie is repeated, the more it is believed.
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It was loud enough...
It was my incredulity at your ability to divine degrees of likelihood spilling out.
What the fuck are you babbling about now?
The concept of likelihood/ unlikelihood is always derived from facts. The fact that no one heard him use a racial slur, coupled with the fact that Rudolf has never been known to display racist behavior. Plus the fact that he had played with blacks all his life, and the fact that this wasn't the first time he had been sacked by a black man. Therefore it would have been unlikely for a guy like Rudulof to have used the N word.
Why do you have a problem with that?
What the fuck are you babbling about now?
The concept of likelihood/ unlikelihood is always derived from facts. The fact that no one heard him use a racial slur, coupled with the fact that Rudolf has never been known to display racist behavior. Plus the fact that he had played with blacks all his life, and the fact that this wasn't the first time he had been sacked by a black man. Therefore it would have been unlikely for a guy like Rudulof to have used the N word.
Why do you have a problem with that?
First, I'm the one babbling?
Second, I suspected that you have a higher opinion of your powers of deductive reasoning than I do, but since you dropped the use of "highly" in restating your case I now suspect we share the same opinion.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
OK- I've had it- any more off topic name calling, and guys are going to start getting penalty points and kiddie timeouts. Grow the hell up, I want to see some semi intelligent discussion- and this thread has devolved into some schoolyard taunting for the most part. I don't give a rat's ass who started it.
Well, you should give a rats ass who starts it. And I know that you know who usually does.
Other than retaliation the recipient of name calling/taunting has two choices, either shut up and take it or squeal to the moderators. Which do you prefer he does?
You're not a moderator, what would you do?
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You're not a moderator, what would you do?
You could always just click on the "Report Post" link.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What the fuck are you babbling about now?
The concept of likelihood/ unlikelihood is always derived from facts. The fact that no one heard him use a racial slur, coupled with the fact that Rudolf has never been known to display racist behavior. Plus the fact that he had played with blacks all his life, and the fact that this wasn't the first time he had been sacked by a black man. Therefore it would have been unlikely for a guy like Rudulof to have used the N word.
Why do you have a problem with that?
First, I'm the one babbling?
Second, I suspected that you have a higher opinion of your powers of deductive reasoning than I do, but since you dropped the use of "highly" in restating your case I now suspect we share the same opinion.
First, I'm the one babbling?
Second, I suspected that you have a higher opinion of your powers of deductive reasoning than I do, but since you dropped the use of "highly" in restating your case I now suspect we share the same opinion.
Yes. Who else? You just affirmed in your follow up statement that you share my opinion.
OK so lets se if I got this right. You were quibbling over my use of the phrase "highly unlikely", and because I had omitted "highly" in my explanation is what did it for you..that you now share the same opinion I do.
Don't you have something more productive you can be doing?
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First, I'm the one babbling?
Second, I suspected that you have a higher opinion of your powers of deductive reasoning than I do, but since you dropped the use of "highly" in restating your case I now suspect we share the same opinion.
Yes. Who else? You just affirmed in your follow up statement that you share my opinion.
OK so lets se if I got this right. You were quibbling over my use of the phrase "highly unlikely", and because I had omitted "highly" in my explanation is what did it for you..that you now share the same opinion I do.
Don't you have something more productive you can be doing?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Missed a few days on this thread and missed a lot. Good arguments up in here.
I kinda agree with a point Nickers made. Garrett has to let it go. He can’t allow a guy like Rudolph to have that power over him. Sticks and stones is a really early lesson in life. I’m all for the bigots of the world being put in their place, but step one is to not make it easy on them. Words are easy.
I have an experience to share. Mid 90s, l’m in college, and someone rigged a computer lab to read racial slurs across banks of computers. There was outrage. Protests ensued. State highways were blocked from passage for vehicles.
It turns out it was an African American student who did it. A letdown ensued. Why do such a thing?
And l don’t know that answer, but l do know we all left our shells for a bit and did things we wouldn’t normally do. It was rainy and cold that day. Even unconfident me brazenly put my jacket around an underdressed girl l didn’t even know and it went surprisingly well. And that’s just a microcosm. The envelope was pushed that day. Conversations were had for weeks and months afterward, just like this one.
We get to push this from our periphery, hash it out, and hopefully arrive at a better place than where we started. That’s what matters.
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@gorka said:
You bleed shit.
Wow. I must’ve said that to a dozen people on this board and no one takes me seriously enough to respond, rightfully so. I don’t even have a come back for this. I need to up my game.
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@gorka said:
You bleed shit.
Wow. I must’ve said that to a dozen people on this board and no one takes me seriously enough to respond, rightfully so. I don’t even have a come back for this. I need to up my game.
Wow. I must’ve said that to a dozen people on this board and no one takes me seriously enough to respond, rightfully so. I don’t even have a come back for this. I need to up my game.
I suppose it's because I haven't paid much attention to what you say.
Sorry.
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Wow. I must’ve said that to a dozen people on this board and no one takes me seriously enough to respond, rightfully so. I don’t even have a come back for this. I need to up my game.
I suppose it's because I haven't paid much attention to what you say.
Sorry.
I suppose it's because I haven't paid much attention to what you say.
Sorry.
Who says l’m worth paying attention to ya wingnut?
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