Proposal: two playoff teams to be added this year
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CBA Negotiation status:
Listening to the TV talking heads in the background. It seems that the Executive Committee has voted 6-5 AGAINST recommending the new CBA that was approved by the owners. Though, other than the 17 game schedule and the addition of 2 new playoff teams.....they are NOT giving any details on, or even having any discussion on some of the other matters that I thought would be at issue in these negotiations/proposals, like:
A. The disciplinary procedures
B. Marijuana testing
C. Status of the Franchise tag/transition tag.
And others. Aside from the scheduling....AND, of course, as always, the division of revenues which may be tweeked somewhat, nothing else but the money seems to even be discussed.
Further, this rejection by the Executive Committee is not, however, the final say. The 32 player reps must approve it by a 2/3rd pct. In other words like either 21 or 22 of the team reps must approve it. And thereafter a simple majority of the full membership (all players), must agree to it.
With the exec. committee rejecting it, I don't see any way that this will be approved.
Then the question is: where do they go from here? Back to the negotiating table, certainly....but over what issues?
Like I said, other than the 17 games, I have heard nothing about what the players may object to in the deal that was presented.
CBA Negotiation status:
Listening to the TV talking heads in the background. It seems that the Executive Committee has voted 6-5 AGAINST recommending the new CBA that was approved by the owners. Though, other than the 17 game schedule and the addition of 2 new playoff teams.....they are NOT giving any details on, or even having any discussion on some of the other matters that I thought would be at issue in these negotiations/proposals, like:
A. The disciplinary procedures
B. Marijuana testing
C. Status of the Franchise tag/transition tag.
And others. Aside from the scheduling....AND, of course, as always, the division of revenues which may be tweeked somewhat, nothing else but the money seems to even be discussed.
Further, this rejection by the Executive Committee is not, however, the final say. The 32 player reps must approve it by a 2/3rd pct. In other words like either 21 or 22 of the team reps must approve it. And thereafter a simple majority of the full membership (all players), must agree to it.
With the exec. committee rejecting it, I don't see any way that this will be approved.
Then the question is: where do they go from here? Back to the negotiating table, certainly....but over what issues?
Like I said, other than the 17 games, I have heard nothing about what the players may object to in the deal that was presented.
Player feedback..... Yeah, the owners upped the player share of the take 1% but it's still not a 50-50 split. If it gets rejected by the players, They still have until the start of the new league year to tweak things. If that goes by, this season gets played under the rules of the contract that will expire March 2021. Anyone's guess how far the owners will be willing to budge on a new contract. For sure a player strike down the road isn't something the owners would want.
Houston Texans star JJ Watt said he is a "hard no" on the the proposed CBA and San Francisco 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman has encouraged him, as well as others, to take leadership and voice their opinions. The players have expressed they want to see a more even distribution of the money and benefits and want longer health coverage in retirement. Some have proposed an extra bye week and want more focus on their safety rather than extra games.
But the proposed CBA does take most discipline cases out of Goodell's hands.
I agree with Gipper- bet the players are going to want testing for weed totally done away with. Though the proposed new standard almost quadruples the level that would be considered a positive...
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Aren't labor relations fun ! Any time that you have a big contract coming up with a lot at stake there is a lot of posturing going on. Who knows how close they really are and what are the deal breakers. Some things are put in the talks by both sides as bargaining chips that they know they can throw out in exchange for something they really want.
Some of these things go right down to the last hours before settling.
Meanwhile there's the third party the fans what about what we'd like to see ?
Who really wants a 17 game season or two byes ?
One thing for sure nobody wants a work stoppage.
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Both the 17th game and the 7th playoff team per conference received owners approval today. Bunch more money heading the players way to buy their acceptance. Also some de-emphasis of the preseason games.
Not sure the 17th game is going to be accepted by the players. And I do not think it'll hold the attention of NFL fans in general. Very few playoff spots will still be in question after the 16th game. A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
I guess the added playoff team means one less bye during the 1st round, a/k/a Wildcard Weekend.
I submitted a diatribe on this earlier (and referenced it again in my Survey). I said that for the 17th game to be accepted by the fans it would have to be against a permanent every year"natural rival" game, likely from the other conference. Teams in the same city like Like Jets/Giants. Rams/Chargers. Or other natural geographic rivals: Redskins/Ravens. Dallas/Houston. Pittsburgh/Philly. Tampa/Miami. Detroit/Cleveland. I still think Raiders/49ers could apply...unless you want Las Vegas vs. Arizona. Then the fans would be on board. Because I think you are right.....just a game against some random other team doesn't create as much interest.
I said that for the 17th game to be accepted by the fans it would have to be against a permanent every year"natural rival" game, likely from the other conference. Teams in the same city like Like Jets/Giants.
Problem is, teams move. (not the Jets or Giants.....but hey, maybe someday, who knows)
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I said that for the 17th game to be accepted by the fans it would have to be against a permanent every year"natural rival" game, likely from the other conference. Teams in the same city like Like Jets/Giants.
Problem is, teams move. (not the Jets or Giants.....but hey, maybe someday, who knows)
Problem is, teams move. (not the Jets or Giants.....but hey, maybe someday, who knows)
Can be revisited from time to time
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Someone tell Gip that's already the way the 16 game schedule ends... with Division games... where rivalries are found.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Someone tell Gip that's already the way the 16 game schedule ends... with Division games... where rivalries are found.
Someone tell Gip that's already the way the 16 game schedule ends... with Division games... where rivalries are found.
Forget it, he's rolling.
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Someone tell Gip that's already the way the 16 game schedule ends... with Division games... where rivalries are found.
Someone tell Gip that's already the way the 16 game schedule ends... with Division games... where rivalries are found.
This is what you get when you don’t bother to read everyone’s post you make erroneous ignorant statements. I said that the 17th game should be against a natural rivalry from the other conference. Open your ears and eyes and pay attention to what is being said
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Forget it, he's rolling.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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Both the 17th game and the 7th playoff team per conference received owners approval today. Bunch more money heading the players way to buy their acceptance. Also some de-emphasis of the preseason games.
Not sure the 17th game is going to be accepted by the players. And I do not think it'll hold the attention of NFL fans in general. Very few playoff spots will still be in question after the 16th game. A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
I guess the added playoff team means one less bye during the 1st round, a/k/a Wildcard Weekend.
Both the 17th game and the 7th playoff team per conference received owners approval today. Bunch more money heading the players way to buy their acceptance. Also some de-emphasis of the preseason games.
Not sure the 17th game is going to be accepted by the players. And I do not think it'll hold the attention of NFL fans in general. Very few playoff spots will still be in question after the 16th game. A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
I guess the added playoff team means one less bye during the 1st round, a/k/a Wildcard Weekend.
As a season ticket holder Tour, I'll go with JJ Watt and give a hard pass on a17th game. The owners are only interested in the extra $$$ they can extort from the fans, and to hell with player saftey.
And it's certainly possible to have Gipper's rivalry game even with a 16 game schedule.
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Both the 17th game and the 7th playoff team per conference received owners approval today. Bunch more money heading the players way to buy their acceptance. Also some de-emphasis of the preseason games.
Not sure the 17th game is going to be accepted by the players. And I do not think it'll hold the attention of NFL fans in general. Very few playoff spots will still be in question after the 16th game. A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
I guess the added playoff team means one less bye during the 1st round, a/k/a Wildcard Weekend.
As a season ticket holder Tour, I'll go with JJ Watt and give a hard pass on a17th game. The owners are only interested in the extra $$$ they can extort from the fans, and to hell with player saftey.
And it's certainly possible to have Gipper's rivalry game even with a 16 game schedule.
As a season ticket holder Tour, I'll go with JJ Watt and give a hard pass on a17th game. The owners are only interested in the extra $$$ they can extort from the fans, and to hell with player saftey.
And it's certainly possible to have Gipper's rivalry game even with a 16 game schedule.
AMEN!
Mike
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Both the 17th game and the 7th playoff team per conference received owners approval today. Bunch more money heading the players way to buy their acceptance. Also some de-emphasis of the preseason games.
Not sure the 17th game is going to be accepted by the players. And I do not think it'll hold the attention of NFL fans in general. Very few playoff spots will still be in question after the 16th game. A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
I guess the added playoff team means one less bye during the 1st round, a/k/a Wildcard Weekend.
As a season ticket holder Tour, I'll go with JJ Watt and give a hard pass on a17th game. The owners are only interested in the extra $$$ they can extort from the fans, and to hell with player saftey.
And it's certainly possible to have Gipper's rivalry game even with a 16 game schedule.
As a season ticket holder Tour, I'll go with JJ Watt and give a hard pass on a17th game. The owners are only interested in the extra $$$ they can extort from the fans, and to hell with player saftey.
And it's certainly possible to have Gipper's rivalry game even with a 16 game schedule.
Read all about it at the NFL Inc. (current stuff)....... https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/nfl-ops-honoring-the-game/health-safety
THE TEAM BEHIND THE TEAM
On average, there are 30 healthcare providers at a stadium on game day to give immediate care to players. In conjunction with the NFLPA, the league has added unaffiliated medical personnel and adopted new technology to assist in the identification and review of injuries, with a specific focus on concussions.
NFL medical professionals follow the step-by-step NFL Concussion Protocol when they are identifying, diagnosing and treating player concussions. The NFL Head, Neck and Spine Committee — a board of independent and NFL-affiliated physicians and scientists, including advisors for the NFL Players Association — developed the NFL Game Day Concussion Diagnosis and Management Protocol in 2011. The Concussion Protocol is reviewed each year in an effort to ensure players are receiving care that reflects the most up-to-date medical consensus on the identification, diagnosis, and treatment of concussions. For the 2018 season, additional improvements were made to the Concussion Protocol......... MUCH MORE ABOUT IT IN THE LINK........
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Both the 17th game and the 7th playoff team per conference received owners approval today. Bunch more money heading the players way to buy their acceptance. Also some de-emphasis of the preseason games.
Not sure the 17th game is going to be accepted by the players. And I do not think it'll hold the attention of NFL fans in general. Very few playoff spots will still be in question after the 16th game. A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
I guess the added playoff team means one less bye during the 1st round, a/k/a Wildcard Weekend.
A more reasonable path to an 18th Week of regular season play would seem to me to give each team 2 Bye weeks during the season.
Any thoughts on this from the ticket holders? Seems like a reasonable compromise to me. I'm surprised it's not getting any mention.
- Adds a week of Prime time games to TV revenue.
- Gives players added week off during season.
Byes could all be during the middle 8 weeks of the season (starting Week 6) with one AFC and one NFC Division off each of those weeks. Divisions could be paired by those who play each other which they could then do coming out of the first Bye. The week following the 2nd Bye could be reserved for inter-divisional play.
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So...what the hell happened with the Union vote? Saw no report after it was rejected by Exec. committee.
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So...what the hell happened with the Union vote? Saw no report after it was rejected by Exec. committee.
So...what the hell happened with the Union vote? Saw no report after it was rejected by Exec. committee.
Ian Rapoport and Tom PelisseroNFL.comPrintNFL Players Association leaders have scheduled an important meeting Thursday morning with the board of player representatives to discuss the status of collective bargaining talks and get the board's input on how to proceed, according to sources familiar with the plan.
It's a significant step after months of formal and informal bargaining sessions between the union and the NFL, which continues to push for the option to expand the regular season to 17 games as part of the next TV deals as a condition for increasing players' share of revenue and other issues. The current collective bargaining agreement is set to expire in 2021, and both sides want to avoid a work stoppage.
The chances for striking a deal hinge in large part on how players respond to the idea of 17 games. Some players -- including 49ers receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who played 17 regular-season games this year because of a midseason trade -- have already spoken out strongly against it. So the NFL must make it worth their while, financially and otherwise, or else players opposed could band together and try to block it.......... continued in the link........
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Where are things on the Marijuana issue?
The disciplinary procedure issue? the Franchise tag issue Again, all we have heard about is the 17 game schedule and the added playoff teams.....and money.
Is it the truth that all those other issues that have been SO big in the past....are just swept aside when it comes to getting more money? And what about the salary cap?
Honestly...I am coming from the point of view that I do NOT want to have more stupid threads about some guy getting suspended for doing dope.....nor have to listen to arguments about whether or not discipline is handed out fairly, and etc. etc. BS that has nothing to do with the game.
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Where are things on the Marijuana issue?
The disciplinary procedure issue? the Franchise tag issue Again, all we have heard about is the 17 game schedule and the added playoff teams.....and money.
Is it the truth that all those other issues that have been SO big in the past....are just swept aside when it comes to getting more money? And what about the salary cap?
Honestly...I am coming from the point of view that I do NOT want to have more stupid threads about some guy getting suspended for doing dope.....nor have to listen to arguments about whether or not discipline is handed out fairly, and etc. etc. BS that has nothing to do with the game.
Where are things on the Marijuana issue?
The disciplinary procedure issue? the Franchise tag issue Again, all we have heard about is the 17 game schedule and the added playoff teams.....and money.
Is it the truth that all those other issues that have been SO big in the past....are just swept aside when it comes to getting more money? And what about the salary cap?
Honestly...I am coming from the point of view that I do NOT want to have more stupid threads about some guy getting suspended for doing dope.....nor have to listen to arguments about whether or not discipline is handed out fairly, and etc. etc. BS that has nothing to do with the game.
Well Bernie wants to legalize in in all 50 states because, "Prohibition doesn't work."
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I’d hate to see football playoffs become like hockey. But two more playoff spots and a longer schedule are likely to happen, if not now then eventually, as they both mean more money.
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