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  • nickersN nickers

    @icecube said:

    The problem is...

    1.) They can get virtually nothing for him, at least not compared to what they gave up for him (1st, 3rd rounder AND a decent player). He was the 26th WR in receiving yards in 2019 and 65th in rec. TDs). Find me a team willing to pay a top-4 WR salary for that production. 

    2.) Mr. Jimmy's ego can't take settling for a mere 3rd rounder after what he gave up for him.  That would be admitting what a bad trade he was. Mr. Jimmy doesn't want to virtually stand in a corner with a dunce cap on. 

    We don't know how well Stef can bond with and motivate players, this will be a nice test. If he gets OBJ to knock off the baby routine and focus and produce, this could end up being a whole different story. But Mr. Jimmy has to get the hell out of the way. 

    Stef comes across too soft for me.. I don't see it happening..

    @nickers said:

    Stef comes across too soft for me.. I don't see it happening..

    We'll know more in Sept./Oct.

  • Aw.... you think I'm cute... or WTF "adorbs" is...

    Sorry but I am a married man...

    Seriously...

    Pretty sure I don't have to prove anything. I just have to raise reasonable doubt... and I think I have.

    Whereas you have not backed up your position at all... and it is your position because you tied yourself to some radio talking heads 'that you've yet to name. All apparently because you've been stewing over some other unpopular position you took some time ago... a position I doubt anyone besides you even remembers.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • I Icecube

    @tour2ma said:

    Your welcome... I guess... but not sure why the thanks since I disputed at least two points in your OP.

    1. The implication that we are actively trying to move him.. and...
    2. That he's not wanted... not working out.

    4th-highest paid WR while being 26th in rec. yards. Why, yes, it's working out just perfectly. Sure. Which way is the clown car showing up?

    @icecube said:

    4th-highest paid WR while being 26th in rec. yards. Why, yes, it's working out just perfectly. Sure. Which way is the clown car showing up?

    Sweet Jesus...

    Yes... OBJ's 2019 season was disappointing, but there were so many contributing factors aside from OBJ's injury it's ridiculous.

    • Start with Freddie...
    • then Baker...
    • add in our first 1000-yard rusher in 10 ten years and note that the only other season he's played with a 1000-yd rusher that his numbers were down to damn near his 2019 level...
    • plus it's the first time OBJ ever shared the field with another 1000-yd receiver...

    Need more?

    Or are you rational?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • nickersN nickers

    @icecube said:

    The problem is...

    1.) They can get virtually nothing for him, at least not compared to what they gave up for him (1st, 3rd rounder AND a decent player). He was the 26th WR in receiving yards in 2019 and 65th in rec. TDs). Find me a team willing to pay a top-4 WR salary for that production. 

    2.) Mr. Jimmy's ego can't take settling for a mere 3rd rounder after what he gave up for him.  That would be admitting what a bad trade he was. Mr. Jimmy doesn't want to virtually stand in a corner with a dunce cap on. 

    We don't know how well Stef can bond with and motivate players, this will be a nice test. If he gets OBJ to knock off the baby routine and focus and produce, this could end up being a whole different story. But Mr. Jimmy has to get the hell out of the way. 

    Stef comes across too soft for me.. I don't see it happening..

    @nickers said:

    Stef comes across too soft for me.. 

    Do you usually rate men by their hardness? 

    😂
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @icecube said:

    4th-highest paid WR while being 26th in rec. yards. Why, yes, it's working out just perfectly. Sure. Which way is the clown car showing up?

    Sweet Jesus...

    Yes... OBJ's 2019 season was disappointing, but there were so many contributing factors aside from OBJ's injury it's ridiculous.

    • Start with Freddie...
    • then Baker...
    • add in our first 1000-yard rusher in 10 ten years and note that the only other season he's played with a 1000-yd rusher that his numbers were down to damn near his 2019 level...
    • plus it's the first time OBJ ever shared the field with another 1000-yd receiver...

    Need more?

    Or are you rational?

    @tour2ma said:

    Sweet Jesus...

    Yes... OBJ's 2019 season was disappointing, but there were so many contributing factors aside from OBJ's injury it's ridiculous.

    • Start with Freddie...were you not defending Freddie often last year?
    • then Baker...you used to defend Baker too.
    • add in our first 1000-yard rusher in 10 ten years and note that the only other season he's played with a 1000-yd rusher that his numbers were down to damn near his 2019 level...Most good WRs benefit from a strong rushing game, not be constrained by such. So, did Jerry Rice's production gets hampered by Roger Craig's solid rushing? Did Mike Irvin suffer from Emmitt Smith? Did Thurman Thomas' production hinder Andre Reed's output? Did Le'veon Bell's rushing damage AB's output?
    •  
    • plus it's the first time OBJ ever shared the field with another 1000-yd receiver...Well, When JuJu lost AB's production, he got much less yards and catches. 

    Need more?

    Or are you rational?...do you discuss things in the context of logic?

  • I Icecube

    @nero said:

    Even the first sentence misses the mark. 

    Masterly retreat is in itself a victory.

    Stop lying, and if they find out your lie, stop trying to argument using the only article (6 weeks old) that supports your point of view. It's kind of pathetic. 

    To put it simply: Don't waste our time. 

    Awwww, really? So, you don't realize Browns had some chats about OBJ? OK, there. 

    @icecube said:

    So, you don't realize Browns had some chats about OBJ?

    Moving the goalposts is not victory in any sense.  Every team "has some chats" about every player every offseason - that's the reality of NFL life.

    Burden's on you to prove the truth of your claim in post #1.  You haven't -- because it doesn't exist.

    Stop with the attempts at spin.  You're wrong - period. 

    Take this as an object lesson: Confirm everything you read so that you don't spread gossip. 

    Unless, of course, you're trying to troll -- if so, just delete your account.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    @icecube said:

    So, you don't realize Browns had some chats about OBJ?

    Moving the goalposts is not victory in any sense.  Every team "has some chats" about every player every offseason - that's the reality of NFL life.

    Burden's on you to prove the truth of your claim in post #1.  You haven't -- because it doesn't exist.

    Stop with the attempts at spin.  You're wrong - period. 

    Take this as an object lesson: Confirm everything you read so that you don't spread gossip. 

    Unless, of course, you're trying to troll -- if so, just delete your account.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Moving the goalposts is not victory in any sense.  Every team "has some chats" about every player every offseason - that's the reality of NFL life.

    Burden's on you to prove the truth of your claim in post #1.  You haven't -- because it doesn't exist.

    Stop trying to spin this.

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  • I Icecube

    @unsympathetic said:

    Moving the goalposts is not victory in any sense.  Every team "has some chats" about every player every offseason - that's the reality of NFL life.

    Burden's on you to prove the truth of your claim in post #1.  You haven't -- because it doesn't exist.

    Stop trying to spin this.

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    @icecube said:

    his normal uselessness

    Thank you for admitting you've got nothing.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    @icecube said:

    his normal uselessness

    Thank you for admitting you've got nothing.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Thank you for admitting you've got nothing.

    Image result for laughing hysterically

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • I Icecube

    @unsympathetic said:

    Moving the goalposts is not victory in any sense.  Every team "has some chats" about every player every offseason - that's the reality of NFL life.

    Burden's on you to prove the truth of your claim in post #1.  You haven't -- because it doesn't exist.

    Stop trying to spin this.

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    @icecube said:

    Image result for laughing hysterically

    If by this you mean this entire thread is laughable,  that would be correct. 

  • I Icecube

    @unsympathetic said:

    Thank you for admitting you've got nothing.

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    @icecube said:

    Image result for laughing hysterically

    Yes, we are all laughing at your childlike attempts to try to foment dissent. 

    Stupid is as stupid does,  and you does stupid with the best. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @icecube said:

    Image result for laughing hysterically

    Yes, we are all laughing at your childlike attempts to try to foment dissent. 

    Stupid is as stupid does,  and you does stupid with the best. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Yes, we are all laughing at your childlike attempts to try to foment dissent. 

    Stupid is as stupid does,  and you does stupid with the best. 

    And you need some education in using English. It's never too late to learn. I can help you. 

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Kareem Hunt is a once in a lifetime talent. Pay the man. 

    I Tour2maT 2 Replies
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  • I Icecube

    @the-gipper said:

    Yes, we are all laughing at your childlike attempts to try to foment dissent. 

    Stupid is as stupid does,  and you does stupid with the best. 

    And you need some education in using English. It's never too late to learn. I can help you. 

    @icecube said:

    And you need some education in using English. It's never too late to learn. I can help you. 

    I Sho nuff be's needin' help there,    bro.  

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Kareem Hunt is a once in a lifetime talent. Pay the man. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Kareem Hunt is a once in a lifetime talent. Pay the man. 

    ???

  • I Icecube

    @gumby73 said:

    Yes..I wake up with my millions..Sing like Freddie Mercury & blame my roadies for equipment malfunctions.. Good news my agent gets it all approved thru Mr Jimmy...your not worth having the adult stars conversation....so we won't...   

    So...I see. Dodge the actual question and just be inane, got it. You think OBJ is just acting like your typical 27 year-old. Very good. That excuses it all. 4th highest-paid WR, 26th in yards and 65th in TDs. Super. 

    @icecube said:

    So...I see. Dodge the actual question and just be inane, got it. You think OBJ is just acting like your typical 27 year-old. Very good. That excuses it all. 4th highest-paid WR, 26th in yards and 65th in TDs. Super. 

    @icecube said:

    And you need some education in using English. It's never too late to learn. I can help you. 

    Give up while you're way behind.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @icecube said:

    And you need some education in using English. It's never too late to learn. I can help you. 

    I Sho nuff be's needin' help there,    bro.  

    @the-gipper said:

    I Sho nuff be's needin' help there,    bro.  

    It iiiiight. Sometimes urban speak workin' fo wheelz. 

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @icecube said:

    So...I see. Dodge the actual question and just be inane, got it. You think OBJ is just acting like your typical 27 year-old. Very good. That excuses it all. 4th highest-paid WR, 26th in yards and 65th in TDs. Super. 

    @icecube said:

    And you need some education in using English. It's never too late to learn. I can help you. 

    Give up while you're way behind.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Give up while you're way behind.

    Hey, bra, it iiiiiiiiiiight. It can be a side hustle. Whad up wit it? Much Moosh y'all. 

  • Eye Witness Report: OBJ’s Shit is Brown

    Longboat Key, FL: At a local nightclub, vacationer Nick Lodoliano got an unexpected surprise when he entered the bathroom stall previously occupied by none other than Browns star wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr.

    And as if a chance encounter with the star wideout wasn’t enough, Nick later discovered that OBJ forgot to flush!

    ”It was brown,” Nick explained. “And he plays for the Browns. It’s like, it’s meant to be.”

    Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t, but the similarities are real. Could this mean that OBJ is destined to be the Brown’s greatest wide receiver ever?

    😂
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