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  • ya mean like the folks using queen's finger as the reason for his suckitude?

    h-y-p-o-c-r-y-t-e-s....

  • Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

  • Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

    Masters said:

    Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

    According to Chud, Anderson actually dislocated a finger on his throwing hand in the Indy game.

    But the trainer popped it back in and he kept playing.

    Never heard him bitch about it at all.

    And he certainly didn't throw it out as an excuse a'la the Tragic Quinnie Fingertip story.

    No wonder teammates prefer DA.

  • Masters said:

    Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

    According to Chud, Anderson actually dislocated a finger on his throwing hand in the Indy game.

    But the trainer popped it back in and he kept playing.

    Never heard him bitch about it at all.

    And he certainly didn't throw it out as an excuse a'la the Tragic Quinnie Fingertip story.

    No wonder teammates prefer DA.

    @lumbergh said:

    According to Chud, Anderson actually dislocated a finger on his throwing hand in the Indy game.

    But the trainer popped it back in and he kept playing.

    Never heard him bitch about it at all.

    And he certainly didn't throw it out as an excuse a'la the Tragic Quinnie Fingertip story.

    No wonder teammates prefer DA.

    *sigh*

    Which finger was it?

    Where is this quote from Chud (and yeah, it's usually the OC that talks about an injury...)

    You do know the difference between breaking a finger, along with tearing tendons, and dislocating a finger don't you?

    Quinn never used it as an excuse.

    Who are these teammate who prefer Quinn or DA exactly?

  • @lumbergh said:

    According to Chud, Anderson actually dislocated a finger on his throwing hand in the Indy game.

    But the trainer popped it back in and he kept playing.

    Never heard him bitch about it at all.

    And he certainly didn't throw it out as an excuse a'la the Tragic Quinnie Fingertip story.

    No wonder teammates prefer DA.

    *sigh*

    Which finger was it?

    Where is this quote from Chud (and yeah, it's usually the OC that talks about an injury...)

    You do know the difference between breaking a finger, along with tearing tendons, and dislocating a finger don't you?

    Quinn never used it as an excuse.

    Who are these teammate who prefer Quinn or DA exactly?

    Masters said:

    You do know the difference between breaking a finger, along with tearing tendons, and dislocating a finger don't you?

    yeah reportedly Quinn's boo boo was basically a dull persistent soreness and Anderson's dislocation probably hurt like a mother effer.

  • Masters said:

    You do know the difference between breaking a finger, along with tearing tendons, and dislocating a finger don't you?

    yeah reportedly Quinn's boo boo was basically a dull persistent soreness and Anderson's dislocation probably hurt like a mother effer.

    @lumbergh said:

    yeah reportedly Quinn's boo boo was basically a dull persistent soreness and Anderson's dislocation probably hurt like a mother effer.

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

  • Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

    Masters said:

    Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

    even after that rant, my point still stands. have a look in the mirror....

  • Masters said:

    Try throwing a football with a swollen finger on your throwing hand. Better yet, go break your index finger and damage tendons in it, then try and throw a spiral. Let me know how that works out for you.....

    People would be hypocrytes if they didn't give DA the same slack if he was injured and then threw badly. That's not the case.

    even after that rant, my point still stands. have a look in the mirror....

    @choco said:

    even after that rant, my point still stands. have a look in the mirror....

    That was hardly a rant and your point is still flawed. Here are a couple of tidbits for you buddy:

    Main Entry: hyp·o·crite

    Pronunciation: \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\

    Function: noun

    Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai

    Date: 13th century

    1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

    2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

    — hypocrite adjective

    Main Entry: 1rant

    Pronunciation: \ˈrant\

    Function: verb

    Etymology: obsolete Dutch ranten, randen

    Date: 1601

    intransitive verb

    1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

    2 : to scold vehemently

    transitive verb

    : to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion

    — rant·er noun

    — rant·ing·ly \ˈran-tiŋ-lē\ adverb

    Don't use words whose meaning you don't know or understand.

  • @lumbergh said:

    yeah reportedly Quinn's boo boo was basically a dull persistent soreness and Anderson's dislocation probably hurt like a mother effer.

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

    Masters said:

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

  • Masters said:

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    I have no idea what children or the commonality of a broken finger has to do with playing QB in the NFL. You, me, kids playing out side, my dog, etc., then don't have to throw a football at a NFL level.

    We know it was a break that caused tendon damange and required surgury. So that kind of gives you an idea about how bad it must be, since you just pointed out how must people get broken fingers and just live with it.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3727363

    and a little extra tidbit from that article "Quinn refused to blame the injury after the game for his poor performance"

    By the way, I wasn't the one making a big deal out of a broken bone in a finger, the Browns, Brady Quinn, and the doctors did. They shut him down and advised surgery, not me. In this thread I pulled up the broken bone when someone cried hypocracy about the treatment of Quinn vs. Anderson when talking excuses.

  • Masters said:

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    Thanks lum.

  • Why are you even arguing with Lumnuts and a guy who calls himself "Drunkandstoopid"? Just pointless!

  • Masters said:

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    Dude, the guy has to throw an odd-shaped ball with the highest level of accuracy required of just about any sport, while moving, and has to put pressure and touch on the ball. I don't give a flying rat's c0ck if children break their fingers and "live with it", they also don't have to play quarterback on the highest level on earth for a living.

  • @jadbf said:

    I'll remind my 3 year old next time he gets a boo boo that it's not excuse for the fact he still can't hit me accurately on the 15 yard out......

    Really??? WTH were you trying to say in this post????

    I am jealous that I did not think of that response. Damn not having kids.

  • @jadbf said:

    Really??? WTH were you trying to say in this post????

    It didn't come across right, but what I was attempting to say is that we don't know how much the break effected his throwing. He'd been cleared by his doctors, his coaches, and himself, to keep playing on it initially. I do think Lums tends to overplay the "excuse" portion of his argument when it comes to Quinn's finger. We just don't know how much it affected his game.

  • Masters said:

    You do know the difference between breaking a finger, along with tearing tendons, and dislocating a finger don't you?

    yeah reportedly Quinn's boo boo was basically a dull persistent soreness and Anderson's dislocation probably hurt like a mother effer.

    @lumbergh said:

    yeah reportedly Quinn's boo boo was basically a dull persistent soreness and Anderson's dislocation probably hurt like a mother effer.

    Has there ever been better proof that we just need to stop acknowledging this person/puppet/bot?

  • @jadbf said:

    Really??? WTH were you trying to say in this post????

    It didn't come across right, but what I was attempting to say is that we don't know how much the break effected his throwing. He'd been cleared by his doctors, his coaches, and himself, to keep playing on it initially. I do think Lums tends to overplay the "excuse" portion of his argument when it comes to Quinn's finger. We just don't know how much it affected his game.

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    It didn't come across right, but what I was attempting to say is that we don't know how much the break effected his throwing. He'd been cleared by his doctors, his coaches, and himself, to keep playing on it initially. I do think Lums tends to overplay the "excuse" portion of his argument when it comes to Quinn's finger. We just don't know how much it affected his game.

    They also told him it could get worse with contact. Obviously it became an issue if he was shut down and sent to surgery. Teams don't do that over little issues. Not during a season.

    Details are in the article I put a link up for.

  • @jadbf said:

    Really??? WTH were you trying to say in this post????

    It didn't come across right, but what I was attempting to say is that we don't know how much the break effected his throwing. He'd been cleared by his doctors, his coaches, and himself, to keep playing on it initially. I do think Lums tends to overplay the "excuse" portion of his argument when it comes to Quinn's finger. We just don't know how much it affected his game.

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    We just don't know how much it affected his game.

    It was the index finger on his throwing hand, you know the finger you predominately use when throwing an accurate ball, the same one Dr Andrews said was close to causing permanent nerve damage. Yeah, that's the same as blaming the headset for throwing a ball right to a defender.

  • Masters said:

    LMFAO...a dull persistent soreness that required surgery by Dr. James Andrews.

    As usual, way to hind from everything else in the post.

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    I'm pretty sure there was something reported along the lines of "the tendon was close to ripping completely off the bone and would be career-threatening at that point."

    It wasn't about toughness. Paralyzed people can't walk, and it's not because they're in pain and not tough. It's because their legs don't work. Brady's finger wasn't working right, and he needed it fixed so that he could do his job and throw the football.

  • @drunkandstoopid said:

    First off, you'll need to talk to the team, the doctor and BQ about WHY the surgery was done. You're making a big deal about a broken bone in the throwing hand... guess what, broken bones in the hands are very, very common... amongst children. Happens all the time. They usually live with it. We have know idea what kind of break it was, if it was something they'd send everyone in for surgery if they had it, or if they decided it was time for Brady to sit and might as well have the surgery to prevent a re-break come spring training. Unless I missed the quote along the lines that BQ's hand was desperately in need of surgery, we really don't know if it was a break that generally would have been surgically treated.

    I'm pretty sure there was something reported along the lines of "the tendon was close to ripping completely off the bone and would be career-threatening at that point."

    It wasn't about toughness. Paralyzed people can't walk, and it's not because they're in pain and not tough. It's because their legs don't work. Brady's finger wasn't working right, and he needed it fixed so that he could do his job and throw the football.

    @dtbh said:

    I'm pretty sure there was something reported along the lines of "the tendon was close to ripping completely off the bone and would be career-threatening at that point."

    It wasn't about toughness. Paralyzed people can't walk, and it's not because they're in pain and not tough. It's because their legs don't work. Brady's finger wasn't working right, and he needed it fixed so that he could do his job and throw the football.

    Glad Brady got the surgery.