The 'Who you watching?' 2020 thread.
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Hey... at least I tinted my reply...
Draft is moving along nicely.
I'll certainly call out the drafts I like.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Something that could never be said of us...
A wise man once told me never apologize for the impossible.
And a wise man once said that "forgiveness is divine but never pay full price for late pizza".
Physics will tell you it's no different than being hit by a 6'1, 210 guy.
Yeah, but I feel confident in being able to lower my strike zone on a guy that''s 6'1, minimizing surface area and contact space. A guy that's 5'8, 5'9? Not so much.
In short, I would rather be playing at full speed and deal with taking on Harrison Smith over Bob Sanders.
edit: I may be the conductor on the Chinn train, but I'm not sure how comfortable I feel taking him high 2nd round.
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Anthony McFarland RB Maryland worth a look on Day 3. 4.44 speed. Had 298 yards against OSU in 2018- 7.9 yards per carry that year. He dealt with a high ankle sprain all of 2019. So his value is going to be depressed a bit but the guy can fly. Possible Hunt replacement in 2021.
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Hey... at least I tinted my reply...
Draft is moving along nicely.
I'll certainly call out the drafts I like.
Hey... at least I tinted my reply...
Draft is moving along nicely.
I'll certainly call out the drafts I like.
? Classic stuff!
Something tells me he wants a little more Eddie Haskell from you along the lines of... "That's a GREAT pick Mr Cleaver. Your draft looks very nice today!" What he doesn't want to hear is.. "And by the way, I just broke your all your basement windows..."
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Voch Lombardi isolated this on the video I showed beginning with Thomas sticking his chest out before striking with his hands.
That's evidence of drawing the arms back before firing them at the target. Try it at your keyboard with hands low and arms close to your sides. I know I can't draw the arms back without my chest moving forward.
Of course the problem with drawing back is time.. same as it is for a QB with an elongated "wind up". The longer it takes to deliver the blow, the longer the opponent has to see it coming. This would be akin to "telegraphing a punch" in boxing.
I doubt it was coached in... more likely that the strength of the blow was over-emphasized and either the UGA OL Coach did not see how the added power was being generated or was happy with the trade-off.
I'd be lying if I said I saw it in the tape, but agree it's not a concern. Nothing time and repetition through a full camp can't fix... or some time inside the ropes...
I'd be lying if I said I saw it in the tape, but agree it's not a concern. Nothing time and repetition through a full camp can't fix... or some time inside the ropes...
Precisely! He's still my fave...
Isn't it nice when people like us adhere to a subject heading as far out as page 15 without getting off topic and arguing about something else for the next 10 pages? It sure would be nice if the OP of this thread extended such a courtesy back to others...
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Hey... at least I tinted my reply...
Draft is moving along nicely.
I'll certainly call out the drafts I like.
? Classic stuff!
Something tells me he wants a little more Eddie Haskell from you along the lines of... "That's a GREAT pick Mr Cleaver. Your draft looks very nice today!" What he doesn't want to hear is.. "And by the way, I just broke your all your basement windows..."
? Classic stuff! Something tells me he wants a little more Eddie Haskell from you along the lines of... "That's a GREAT pick Mr Cleaver. Your draft looks very nice today!"
"Hi ya, Squirt."
Isn't it nice when people like us adhere to a subject heading as far out as page 15 without getting off topic and arguing about something else for the next 10 pages?
And what exactly are you insinuating by that?!?!?!?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
? Classic stuff! Something tells me he wants a little more Eddie Haskell from you along the lines of... "That's a GREAT pick Mr Cleaver. Your draft looks very nice today!"
"Hi ya, Squirt."
Isn't it nice when people like us adhere to a subject heading as far out as page 15 without getting off topic and arguing about something else for the next 10 pages?
And what exactly are you insinuating by that?!?!?!?
"Hi ya, Squirt."
And what exactly are you insinuating by that?!?!?!?
I'm talking about Gips. He gets pissed off when people don't stick to his subject headings and then he hi-jacks other people's threads and gets in 10 page arguments with people on something that has nothing to do with the subject heading he invaded.
If it only happened once or twice, it wouldn't be an issue but he does it all the time to people.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I'm on board with Matt Peart - OT, UConn. Watched vs USF, Wagner and Navy.
- Good Feet. Ideal for more of a ZBS
- Great wingspan. And despite the long arms, doesn't use them without control. I.e. didn't really see any holding calls.
- Hips and kick look fluid. This goes back to his feet, big boy with good wheels.
- Works to the next level under control and rarely misses his mark.
- Hands initial punch on edge speed with reasonable force finding largest available surface area.
He might not be absolutely devastating in the running game, but he does a good job positioning himself and leveraging his man inside or kicking him out. Anchors well enough when bull rushed. Not a pure power guy, but he can hold his ground without being bullied. Uses his long arms to his advantage and rarely lets rushers into his chest. So far, looks like mid round gold.
edit: @tour2ma I'm sure will be happy with this find.
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@gumby73 I'm on Khalid Kareem, Edge, Notre Dame. Will get back to you later today.
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Honestly - it's "I ask a dumb question time" lol...
Peart is one of those guys I read up on, watch some film and go "what the heck"....
and I am NOT trying to pick on him at all.
He looks the part, plays the part, to me. But then you read stuff from other folks who criticize him.
like:
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/26/2020-nfl-draft-matt-peart-scouting-report/
and
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2020-nfl-draft-uconn-offensive-tackle-matt-peart/
"There is one aspect of the game Peart lacks that is a major red flag – a killer instinct and nasty attitude. In three years of watching his film, I’ve never seen him look like a blocker hellbent on finishing off opponents, playing through the whistle, or working to finish blocks.
That is a problem many are aware of.
Entering the season, Peart was graded by scouts as early as a fourth-round pick to as late as a sixth-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. I was consistent in my assessment of the senior – he was a fifth-round prospect who had enough playing ability to move into the second round if he picked up the intensity.
I’ve yet to see it happen in 2019. "
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so, what is there about drafting a player that blows the doors off expectations, and other guys who just don't make it? I keep thinking it's internal drive - intensity - love for the game...and not all players have it. There's Joe Thomas, who didn't miss one snap in thousands and thousands? LOL ! That's serious kick-ass love for the game. There's guys like Joel Bitonio, who is also terrific and a natural kickass-er.
kickass-er. ?
Then there's Austin Corbett, who didn't play like Bitonio, but played more like 300 lbs of oleo. Flugels - I can talk to him about him having played OL, and you can freaking hear over the phone - how he loved the game, and the kickass fire he had.
There's soft Cameron Irving. Had the ability big-time, but it seems to me the fire and intensity was never there.
So, in conclusion, how does anybody tell when a Jones or Peart or whoever/any other player has that drive..or not?
Is my stupid mock pick of Josh Jones - more like Cameron Irving or Joe Thomas? I think he has that fire, and he's very smart.
If only Andrew Thomas would fall to the Browns - I won't have to find out.
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Hey... at least I tinted my reply...
Draft is moving along nicely.
I'll certainly call out the drafts I like.
? Classic stuff!
Something tells me he wants a little more Eddie Haskell from you along the lines of... "That's a GREAT pick Mr Cleaver. Your draft looks very nice today!" What he doesn't want to hear is.. "And by the way, I just broke your all your basement windows..."
? Classic stuff!
Something tells me he wants a little more Eddie Haskell from you along the lines of... "That's a GREAT pick Mr Cleaver. Your draft looks very nice today!" What he doesn't want to hear is.. "And by the way, I just broke your all your basement windows..."
Boy, you got that backward. He wants to be the object of the Eddie Haskell fawning.
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"Hi ya, Squirt."
And what exactly are you insinuating by that?!?!?!?
I'm talking about Gips. He gets pissed off when people don't stick to his subject headings and then he hi-jacks other people's threads and gets in 10 page arguments with people on something that has nothing to do with the subject heading he invaded.
If it only happened once or twice, it wouldn't be an issue but he does it all the time to people.
I'm talking about Gips. He gets pissed off when people don't stick to his subject headings and then he hi-jacks other people's threads and gets in 10 page arguments with people on something that has nothing to do with the subject heading he invaded.
If it only happened once or twice, it wouldn't be an issue but he does it all the time to people.
Actually....I don't. It is others that go off thread because they, for some reason have this obsession with everything I say, and if I make some slight error of fact (I put 1000 facts a week up on here, and maybe one of them is off) or if I misread someone's intent...then it is a major crisis in their life for which they must ruminate about incessantly...
So, I don't take things off track much.....I just follow them when they do.
Like you did right here.
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Honestly - it's "I ask a dumb question time" lol...
Peart is one of those guys I read up on, watch some film and go "what the heck"....
and I am NOT trying to pick on him at all.
He looks the part, plays the part, to me. But then you read stuff from other folks who criticize him.
like:
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2020/03/26/2020-nfl-draft-matt-peart-scouting-report/
and
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2020-nfl-draft-uconn-offensive-tackle-matt-peart/
"There is one aspect of the game Peart lacks that is a major red flag – a killer instinct and nasty attitude. In three years of watching his film, I’ve never seen him look like a blocker hellbent on finishing off opponents, playing through the whistle, or working to finish blocks.
That is a problem many are aware of.
Entering the season, Peart was graded by scouts as early as a fourth-round pick to as late as a sixth-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. I was consistent in my assessment of the senior – he was a fifth-round prospect who had enough playing ability to move into the second round if he picked up the intensity.
I’ve yet to see it happen in 2019. "
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so, what is there about drafting a player that blows the doors off expectations, and other guys who just don't make it? I keep thinking it's internal drive - intensity - love for the game...and not all players have it. There's Joe Thomas, who didn't miss one snap in thousands and thousands? LOL ! That's serious kick-ass love for the game. There's guys like Joel Bitonio, who is also terrific and a natural kickass-er.
kickass-er. ?
Then there's Austin Corbett, who didn't play like Bitonio, but played more like 300 lbs of oleo. Flugels - I can talk to him about him having played OL, and you can freaking hear over the phone - how he loved the game, and the kickass fire he had.
There's soft Cameron Irving. Had the ability big-time, but it seems to me the fire and intensity was never there.
So, in conclusion, how does anybody tell when a Jones or Peart or whoever/any other player has that drive..or not?
Is my stupid mock pick of Josh Jones - more like Cameron Irving or Joe Thomas? I think he has that fire, and he's very smart.
If only Andrew Thomas would fall to the Browns - I won't have to find out.
"There is one aspect of the game Peart lacks that is a major red flag – a killer instinct and nasty attitude. In three years of watching his film, I’ve never seen him look like a blocker hellbent on finishing off opponents, playing through the whistle, or working to finish blocks. "
I think the answer to your concerns is capsulized in tia's really well considered, summary write-up...
He might not be absolutely devastating in the running game, but he does a good job positioning himself and leveraging his man inside or kicking him out. Anchors well enough when bull rushed. Not a pure power guy, but he can hold his ground without being bullied. Uses his long arms to his advantage and rarely lets rushers into his chest. So far, looks like mid round gold.
In short... Peart's not a physical mauler, but that's not a killer in a ZBS-centric Offense.
It is certainly not a trait you seek, if you run a power/gap scheme...
... but ZBS? Well you can work with that.
Goalline situations? Just run the other way... which you're likely to do anyway behind Bito.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Plus you can always draft Netane Muti (what a great name) to put next to Peart...
Word on him is he has more than enough "mean" to supply one side of the line.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Plus you can always draft Netane Muti (what a great name) to put next to Peart...
Word on him is he has more than enough "mean" to supply one side of the line.
Plus you can always draft Netane Muti (what a great name)
If Muti can stay on the field? Is he any better than Will Hernandez tape coming out of school.. in your opinion?
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If Muti can stay on the field? Is he any better than Will Hernandez tape coming out of school.. in your opinion?
Yes... I think he can be the next Yanda/Scherff...
I hate highlight vids, but this one is a hoot! You do NOT want to let this guy see your ribs..
Weird opening, but let it roll...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Even in a ZBS, primarily a IZS, I want my guards to be able to win inside with their drive blocks when called on. At some point, especially in goal to go situations, you're going to have to move the LOS.
Which is one of reasons I liked what I watched of Kevin Dotson. I like bigger bodies in the middle who might not be Bito, but can move well enough.
However I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of that mauler nature on the ends for wingspan, footwork, leverage and pass pro.
If we run OZ, I need to know that the tackle as the read point can move well enough to not be a liability laterally and (ideally) be able to reach block closed ends should the ball carrier keep pushing outside.
Pearts case highlights my wants over worries type scenario.
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