The 'Who you watching?' 2020 thread.
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I guess I just don't see it with Kareem. He doesn't really have the speed to consistency threaten the edge, he doesn't have the speed to power to win back inside either. He seems.... slow. Off the snap that is. No real "suddenness" to his first step. Uses his hands ok enough I guess? But doesn't really punish blockers by driving into them or even past them. Also questionable and sometimes completely non-existent bend to help take the edge. Really does a poor job minimizing surface area and tends to present his whole body for blockers to strike at. He just doesn't seem to have any one particular weapon in his arsenal that stands out to hang his hat on. He's slow on twists and stunts, and I question his speed as the weak/open end because he never seems to be able to crash down from the backside to finish off a tackle on ball carriers that are dancing behind the line. I can't remember the last time I watched a "meh" kind of cloned edge rusher. He may one day develop into someone who contributes in a type of rotation or deep backup role? But there's nothing in 3 games I've seen where I say "Ok, I saw THIS flash" at any point. Then we can build off of that. He's just one of those bodies who is "there". At the collegiate level he won't hurt your team, but he sure as hell ain't going to get you over the top either. I just don't see that translating to hidden potential next level.
So.... yeah. No offense, but that's my 2 cents on him.
edit: But I will tell you who jumps out on occasion from that Notre Dame defense when I watched - #40, the linebacker. Had to look him up - Drew White. Keep an eye on him in the time to come.
I had a similar take. What's your take on Zuniga? I love the kids burst but I dont really see much after that. Developmental guy perhaps?
I had a similar take. What's your take on Zuniga? I love the kids burst but I dont really see much after that. Developmental guy perhaps?
I was pleasantly surprised when I watched Zuni. Nothing overwhelming, but the kid does certain things really well.
- Initial strike on blockers looks like a solid "punch".
- He does a decent job using his arms to keep lineman from getting into his chest
- Reasonably quick disengage from potential blockers
- Shows some "get skinny" in the gaps to work past lineman.
- Decent first step.
- Flexability
Re: the last one. Florida uses him all over the formation. Base end, base 4/5 tech, sometimes as a 9 or wide edge then other times inside at a more conventional 3tech spot.
He didn't look dominant, but he showed more than enough potential to be drafted and a team to invest in a developmental type spot. Showed out quite well vs the right side of LSU's line.
edit: Maybe just a hair slower, but I felt I was watching Frostee Rucker at times.
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What's your take on Zuniga?
One of the Pobladores? Original settlors of Los Angeles? My take is that he started what would become a very big city. (third largest in N. America in fact, behind Mexico City and NYC.)
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I had a similar take. What's your take on Zuniga? I love the kids burst but I dont really see much after that. Developmental guy perhaps?
I was pleasantly surprised when I watched Zuni. Nothing overwhelming, but the kid does certain things really well.
- Initial strike on blockers looks like a solid "punch".
- He does a decent job using his arms to keep lineman from getting into his chest
- Reasonably quick disengage from potential blockers
- Shows some "get skinny" in the gaps to work past lineman.
- Decent first step.
- Flexability
Re: the last one. Florida uses him all over the formation. Base end, base 4/5 tech, sometimes as a 9 or wide edge then other times inside at a more conventional 3tech spot.
He didn't look dominant, but he showed more than enough potential to be drafted and a team to invest in a developmental type spot. Showed out quite well vs the right side of LSU's line.
edit: Maybe just a hair slower, but I felt I was watching Frostee Rucker at times.
I was pleasantly surprised when I watched Zuni.
Thought you might like him... has a couple things you can't teach and a couple you won't have to... which ain't bad for a Day-4 Edge.
If you have a minute look at a bargain basement kid, Syracuse's Kendall Coleman. Kid is pretty skilled, but doesn't have the physical gifts.
Also... has anybody looked at Chaisson? I never did as he just did not seem to be in the cards for us, but...
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I was pleasantly surprised when I watched Zuni.
Thought you might like him... has a couple things you can't teach and a couple you won't have to... which ain't bad for a Day-4 Edge.
If you have a minute look at a bargain basement kid, Syracuse's Kendall Coleman. Kid is pretty skilled, but doesn't have the physical gifts.
Also... has anybody looked at Chaisson? I never did as he just did not seem to be in the cards for us, but...
Thought you might like him... has a couple things you can't teach and a couple you won't have to... which ain't bad for a Day-4 Edge.
If you have a minute look at a bargain basement kid, Syracuse's Kendall Coleman. Kid is pretty skilled, but doesn't have the physical gifts.
Also... has anybody looked at Chaisson? I never did as he just did not seem to be in the cards for us, but...
So I started watching him, then half way through ended up turning my attention to a DB on the 'Cuse roster. #3 - Christopher Fredrick.
Coleman looks like a hustle "effort" kind of kid. Not ideal when I'm watching a game for him and seeing a corner catch my eye.
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Thought you might like him... has a couple things you can't teach and a couple you won't have to... which ain't bad for a Day-4 Edge.
If you have a minute look at a bargain basement kid, Syracuse's Kendall Coleman. Kid is pretty skilled, but doesn't have the physical gifts.
Also... has anybody looked at Chaisson? I never did as he just did not seem to be in the cards for us, but...
So I started watching him, then half way through ended up turning my attention to a DB on the 'Cuse roster. #3 - Christopher Fredrick.
Coleman looks like a hustle "effort" kind of kid. Not ideal when I'm watching a game for him and seeing a corner catch my eye.
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Priority UDFA. Then agreed.
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So I'm watching your boy Uche under the fine tooth comb. I kind of see some of the things you're talking about and I think he's a quality football player. But I think his premium isn't immediately primarily as a pass rusher. The kid is quite fluid in space and seems to have a good understanding of what is developing in front of him. He has that "see ball, get ball". He looks like Shaq Thompson at times. Good quicks and can use them as the 5th or 6th man when pressuring. Speaking of - his pass rush stance is... idk how to describe it. He looks like he's standing narrow ready to fire out of a chalk running sprints. He has a good first step, and I mean that - a good one. But it isn't elite, and his length, ability to bend around the edge or any type of counter move isn't ideal. But he did take his speed, put it into power and drive Tristan Wirfs back a few times. He even got a pressure on one of them. Beyond that? He got beat up pretty bad on both sides by the Iowa tackles. He's a 9-align on base downs as an on-ball linebacker. Then UM started using him all over vs Iowa. Sometimes as a decoy then sending pressure from the other side. In the 3-3 looks, he seems to move around quite a bit and flips in assignment between dropping and rushing, with an occasional "green light" to do either.
Vs Illinois and some of their option concepts, he would have a gap assignment, but attack it from an off ball LB look. Sometimes it looked like UM was already slanting their lines, so I'm sure this is by design. An interesting way of attacking spread teams who like to run laterally. Interesting that in some of the cover 2 looks he's the MLB as well. He just looks like a very space and speed dependent rusher. When he can get wide and get a full head of steam, he has the bull to drive some tackles back. But he never really wins the edge, drop his hips, then use his arms to create the pressure. Very scheme dependent and most of what he does is on tenacity + effort. Great motor by the way, kid never stops running. But the Illini RT ate him up pretty bad. Haven't seen a single counter move back to the inside.
Vs Penn State, he did a good job of getting to the flash blocks before they got to him. Once he got his hands on the lead, he held his ground and waited for help to arrive. Can't ask much more than that. Stopping the run consistently isn't about the individual making a play so much as everyone playing their role as a unit. Still not offering much on either side as the primary edge rusher though.
In 4 man fronts where it's obvious how and when he's coming, his quickness off the snap is somewhat neutralized by his lack of physical stature to be a reliable edge rusher. But when he's turned loose as an off backer linebacker who can gap exchange or be sent from different places it becomes a different story. Then he's able to get creative in his timing and rush technique and generate some pressure. I say some, because he's like a decent PG - he can space the floor and find the other man, but he isn't great at creating his own shot.
As the 5th or 6th man in the pressure the role looks much more effective. He drives backs and TE's chipping quite well and tends to put them into a QB's face creating a pressure and getting them off the spot.
He looks like a role player and off ball linebacker. The problem is, he doesn't have a hell of a lot of time mastering any one position so he'll need time, and a patient yet slightly creative coaching staff to use him properly. There is potential. But I don't see Trent Cole, undersized yet monstrous type player. And he isn't big enough to hold a 5tech spot down vs the run.
Not sure how high you intend on taking him or for what team, but right now as a linebacker I guess I could see a later day 2 pick.
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So I'm watching your boy Uche under the fine tooth comb. I kind of see some of the things you're talking about and I think he's a quality football player. But I think his premium isn't immediately primarily as a pass rusher. The kid is quite fluid in space and seems to have a good understanding of what is developing in front of him. He has that "see ball, get ball". He looks like Shaq Thompson at times. Good quicks and can use them as the 5th or 6th man when pressuring. Speaking of - his pass rush stance is... idk how to describe it. He looks like he's standing narrow ready to fire out of a chalk running sprints. He has a good first step, and I mean that - a good one. But it isn't elite, and his length, ability to bend around the edge or any type of counter move isn't ideal. But he did take his speed, put it into power and drive Tristan Wirfs back a few times. He even got a pressure on one of them. Beyond that? He got beat up pretty bad on both sides by the Iowa tackles. He's a 9-align on base downs as an on-ball linebacker. Then UM started using him all over vs Iowa. Sometimes as a decoy then sending pressure from the other side. In the 3-3 looks, he seems to move around quite a bit and flips in assignment between dropping and rushing, with an occasional "green light" to do either.
Vs Illinois and some of their option concepts, he would have a gap assignment, but attack it from an off ball LB look. Sometimes it looked like UM was already slanting their lines, so I'm sure this is by design. An interesting way of attacking spread teams who like to run laterally. Interesting that in some of the cover 2 looks he's the MLB as well. He just looks like a very space and speed dependent rusher. When he can get wide and get a full head of steam, he has the bull to drive some tackles back. But he never really wins the edge, drop his hips, then use his arms to create the pressure. Very scheme dependent and most of what he does is on tenacity + effort. Great motor by the way, kid never stops running. But the Illini RT ate him up pretty bad. Haven't seen a single counter move back to the inside.
Vs Penn State, he did a good job of getting to the flash blocks before they got to him. Once he got his hands on the lead, he held his ground and waited for help to arrive. Can't ask much more than that. Stopping the run consistently isn't about the individual making a play so much as everyone playing their role as a unit. Still not offering much on either side as the primary edge rusher though.
In 4 man fronts where it's obvious how and when he's coming, his quickness off the snap is somewhat neutralized by his lack of physical stature to be a reliable edge rusher. But when he's turned loose as an off backer linebacker who can gap exchange or be sent from different places it becomes a different story. Then he's able to get creative in his timing and rush technique and generate some pressure. I say some, because he's like a decent PG - he can space the floor and find the other man, but he isn't great at creating his own shot.
As the 5th or 6th man in the pressure the role looks much more effective. He drives backs and TE's chipping quite well and tends to put them into a QB's face creating a pressure and getting them off the spot.
He looks like a role player and off ball linebacker. The problem is, he doesn't have a hell of a lot of time mastering any one position so he'll need time, and a patient yet slightly creative coaching staff to use him properly. There is potential. But I don't see Trent Cole, undersized yet monstrous type player. And he isn't big enough to hold a 5tech spot down vs the run.
Not sure how high you intend on taking him or for what team, but right now as a linebacker I guess I could see a later day 2 pick.
I guess I could see a later day 2 pick.
DraftScout agrees...
I think they have Dye too low... but just saw where he finished 2019 playing on a torn meniscus in one knee.
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DraftScout agrees...
I think they have Dye too low... but just saw where he finished 2019 playing on a torn meniscus in one knee.
Depends on where you're asking Dye to play IMHO. Watched Oregon early in the season... interesting inside backer prospect.
I was thinking 3rd... maybe early 4th for Uche depending on position runs. Physical attributes are there, just need to refine how you want him to play.
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So I'm watching your boy Uche under the fine tooth comb. I kind of see some of the things you're talking about and I think he's a quality football player. But I think his premium isn't immediately primarily as a pass rusher. The kid is quite fluid in space and seems to have a good understanding of what is developing in front of him. He has that "see ball, get ball". He looks like Shaq Thompson at times. Good quicks and can use them as the 5th or 6th man when pressuring. Speaking of - his pass rush stance is... idk how to describe it. He looks like he's standing narrow ready to fire out of a chalk running sprints. He has a good first step, and I mean that - a good one. But it isn't elite, and his length, ability to bend around the edge or any type of counter move isn't ideal. But he did take his speed, put it into power and drive Tristan Wirfs back a few times. He even got a pressure on one of them. Beyond that? He got beat up pretty bad on both sides by the Iowa tackles. He's a 9-align on base downs as an on-ball linebacker. Then UM started using him all over vs Iowa. Sometimes as a decoy then sending pressure from the other side. In the 3-3 looks, he seems to move around quite a bit and flips in assignment between dropping and rushing, with an occasional "green light" to do either.
Vs Illinois and some of their option concepts, he would have a gap assignment, but attack it from an off ball LB look. Sometimes it looked like UM was already slanting their lines, so I'm sure this is by design. An interesting way of attacking spread teams who like to run laterally. Interesting that in some of the cover 2 looks he's the MLB as well. He just looks like a very space and speed dependent rusher. When he can get wide and get a full head of steam, he has the bull to drive some tackles back. But he never really wins the edge, drop his hips, then use his arms to create the pressure. Very scheme dependent and most of what he does is on tenacity + effort. Great motor by the way, kid never stops running. But the Illini RT ate him up pretty bad. Haven't seen a single counter move back to the inside.
Vs Penn State, he did a good job of getting to the flash blocks before they got to him. Once he got his hands on the lead, he held his ground and waited for help to arrive. Can't ask much more than that. Stopping the run consistently isn't about the individual making a play so much as everyone playing their role as a unit. Still not offering much on either side as the primary edge rusher though.
In 4 man fronts where it's obvious how and when he's coming, his quickness off the snap is somewhat neutralized by his lack of physical stature to be a reliable edge rusher. But when he's turned loose as an off backer linebacker who can gap exchange or be sent from different places it becomes a different story. Then he's able to get creative in his timing and rush technique and generate some pressure. I say some, because he's like a decent PG - he can space the floor and find the other man, but he isn't great at creating his own shot.
As the 5th or 6th man in the pressure the role looks much more effective. He drives backs and TE's chipping quite well and tends to put them into a QB's face creating a pressure and getting them off the spot.
He looks like a role player and off ball linebacker. The problem is, he doesn't have a hell of a lot of time mastering any one position so he'll need time, and a patient yet slightly creative coaching staff to use him properly. There is potential. But I don't see Trent Cole, undersized yet monstrous type player. And he isn't big enough to hold a 5tech spot down vs the run.
Not sure how high you intend on taking him or for what team, but right now as a linebacker I guess I could see a later day 2 pick.
So I'm watching your boy Uche under the fine tooth comb. I kind of see some of the things you're talking about and I think he's a quality football player. But I think his premium isn't immediately primarily as a pass rusher. The kid is quite fluid in space and seems to have a good understanding of what is developing in front of him. He has that "see ball, get ball". He looks like Shaq Thompson at times. Good quicks and can use them as the 5th or 6th man when pressuring. Speaking of - his pass rush stance is... idk how to describe it. He looks like he's standing narrow ready to fire out of a chalk running sprints. He has a good first step, and I mean that - a good one. But it isn't elite, and his length, ability to bend around the edge or any type of counter move isn't ideal. But he did take his speed, put it into power and drive Tristan Wirfs back a few times. He even got a pressure on one of them. Beyond that? He got beat up pretty bad on both sides by the Iowa tackles. He's a 9-align on base downs as an on-ball linebacker. Then UM started using him all over vs Iowa. Sometimes as a decoy then sending pressure from the other side. In the 3-3 looks, he seems to move around quite a bit and flips in assignment between dropping and rushing, with an occasional "green light" to do either.
Vs Illinois and some of their option concepts, he would have a gap assignment, but attack it from an off ball LB look. Sometimes it looked like UM was already slanting their lines, so I'm sure this is by design. An interesting way of attacking spread teams who like to run laterally. Interesting that in some of the cover 2 looks he's the MLB as well. He just looks like a very space and speed dependent rusher. When he can get wide and get a full head of steam, he has the bull to drive some tackles back. But he never really wins the edge, drop his hips, then use his arms to create the pressure. Very scheme dependent and most of what he does is on tenacity + effort. Great motor by the way, kid never stops running. But the Illini RT ate him up pretty bad. Haven't seen a single counter move back to the inside.
Vs Penn State, he did a good job of getting to the flash blocks before they got to him. Once he got his hands on the lead, he held his ground and waited for help to arrive. Can't ask much more than that. Stopping the run consistently isn't about the individual making a play so much as everyone playing their role as a unit. Still not offering much on either side as the primary edge rusher though.
In 4 man fronts where it's obvious how and when he's coming, his quickness off the snap is somewhat neutralized by his lack of physical stature to be a reliable edge rusher. But when he's turned loose as an off backer linebacker who can gap exchange or be sent from different places it becomes a different story. Then he's able to get creative in his timing and rush technique and generate some pressure. I say some, because he's like a decent PG - he can space the floor and find the other man, but he isn't great at creating his own shot.
As the 5th or 6th man in the pressure the role looks much more effective. He drives backs and TE's chipping quite well and tends to put them into a QB's face creating a pressure and getting them off the spot.
He looks like a role player and off ball linebacker. The problem is, he doesn't have a hell of a lot of time mastering any one position so he'll need time, and a patient yet slightly creative coaching staff to use him properly. There is potential. But I don't see Trent Cole, undersized yet monstrous type player. And he isn't big enough to hold a 5tech spot down vs the run.
Not sure how high you intend on taking him or for what team, but right now as a linebacker I guess I could see a later day 2 pick.
Depends on where you're asking Dye to play IMHO. Watched Oregon early in the season... interesting inside backer prospect.
I was thinking 3rd... maybe early 4th for Uche depending on position runs. Physical attributes are there, just need to refine how you want him to play.
Good write up Tia
Pretty much agree with all of that after watching and reading about him since he committed to Michigan.
I'll say PFF has been pretty high on Uche. They rated him the best player at the Sr Bowl.
PFF College@PFF_CollegeJosh Uche has been a monster in pass-rush since 2018.
His 22.5% QB pressure rate ranks first among edge defenders.
But yeah he's got some burst
I'll bet you he goes before the 4th though.
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So I'm watching your boy Uche under the fine tooth comb. I kind of see some of the things you're talking about and I think he's a quality football player. But I think his premium isn't immediately primarily as a pass rusher. The kid is quite fluid in space and seems to have a good understanding of what is developing in front of him. He has that "see ball, get ball". He looks like Shaq Thompson at times. Good quicks and can use them as the 5th or 6th man when pressuring. Speaking of - his pass rush stance is... idk how to describe it. He looks like he's standing narrow ready to fire out of a chalk running sprints. He has a good first step, and I mean that - a good one. But it isn't elite, and his length, ability to bend around the edge or any type of counter move isn't ideal. But he did take his speed, put it into power and drive Tristan Wirfs back a few times. He even got a pressure on one of them. Beyond that? He got beat up pretty bad on both sides by the Iowa tackles. He's a 9-align on base downs as an on-ball linebacker. Then UM started using him all over vs Iowa. Sometimes as a decoy then sending pressure from the other side. In the 3-3 looks, he seems to move around quite a bit and flips in assignment between dropping and rushing, with an occasional "green light" to do either.
Vs Illinois and some of their option concepts, he would have a gap assignment, but attack it from an off ball LB look. Sometimes it looked like UM was already slanting their lines, so I'm sure this is by design. An interesting way of attacking spread teams who like to run laterally. Interesting that in some of the cover 2 looks he's the MLB as well. He just looks like a very space and speed dependent rusher. When he can get wide and get a full head of steam, he has the bull to drive some tackles back. But he never really wins the edge, drop his hips, then use his arms to create the pressure. Very scheme dependent and most of what he does is on tenacity + effort. Great motor by the way, kid never stops running. But the Illini RT ate him up pretty bad. Haven't seen a single counter move back to the inside.
Vs Penn State, he did a good job of getting to the flash blocks before they got to him. Once he got his hands on the lead, he held his ground and waited for help to arrive. Can't ask much more than that. Stopping the run consistently isn't about the individual making a play so much as everyone playing their role as a unit. Still not offering much on either side as the primary edge rusher though.
In 4 man fronts where it's obvious how and when he's coming, his quickness off the snap is somewhat neutralized by his lack of physical stature to be a reliable edge rusher. But when he's turned loose as an off backer linebacker who can gap exchange or be sent from different places it becomes a different story. Then he's able to get creative in his timing and rush technique and generate some pressure. I say some, because he's like a decent PG - he can space the floor and find the other man, but he isn't great at creating his own shot.
As the 5th or 6th man in the pressure the role looks much more effective. He drives backs and TE's chipping quite well and tends to put them into a QB's face creating a pressure and getting them off the spot.
He looks like a role player and off ball linebacker. The problem is, he doesn't have a hell of a lot of time mastering any one position so he'll need time, and a patient yet slightly creative coaching staff to use him properly. There is potential. But I don't see Trent Cole, undersized yet monstrous type player. And he isn't big enough to hold a 5tech spot down vs the run.
Not sure how high you intend on taking him or for what team, but right now as a linebacker I guess I could see a later day 2 pick.
Depends on where you're asking Dye to play IMHO. Watched Oregon early in the season... interesting inside backer prospect.
I was thinking 3rd... maybe early 4th for Uche depending on position runs. Physical attributes are there, just need to refine how you want him to play.
Good write up Tia
Pretty much agree with all of that after watching and reading about him since he committed to Michigan.
I'll say PFF has been pretty high on Uche. They rated him the best player at the Sr Bowl.
PFF College@PFF_CollegeJosh Uche has been a monster in pass-rush since 2018.
His 22.5% QB pressure rate ranks first among edge defenders.But yeah he's got some burst
I'll bet you he goes before the 4th though.
Good write up Tia
Pretty much agree with all of that after watching and reading about him since he committed to Michigan.
I'll say PFF has been pretty high on Uche. They rated him the best player at the Sr Bowl.
But yeah he's got some burst
There in lies my issue with PFF. They don't say who the pressure rate was against and pressure rate disbursement. Was he the primary edge? 5th man? 6th? Against an OT, TE, RB? Did he have a massive game against Rutgers then have problems vs decent OT's?
Really want to see where his strength is and why I say it's necessary to disguise him?
Go to 2:14 on the delay pressure. The only reason Penn State's QB doesn't get lit up is because their RB caught this out of the very corner of his eye... almost by the pure luck of timing.
He's basically a will backer who you can get creative with on passing D&D's. Because his first step is pretty damn good when he is flying downhill.
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Good write up Tia
Pretty much agree with all of that after watching and reading about him since he committed to Michigan.
I'll say PFF has been pretty high on Uche. They rated him the best player at the Sr Bowl.
But yeah he's got some burst
There in lies my issue with PFF. They don't say who the pressure rate was against and pressure rate disbursement. Was he the primary edge? 5th man? 6th? Against an OT, TE, RB? Did he have a massive game against Rutgers then have problems vs decent OT's?
Really want to see where his strength is and why I say it's necessary to disguise him?
Go to 2:14 on the delay pressure. The only reason Penn State's QB doesn't get lit up is because their RB caught this out of the very corner of his eye... almost by the pure luck of timing.
He's basically a will backer who you can get creative with on passing D&D's. Because his first step is pretty damn good when he is flying downhill.
There in lies my issue with PFF. They don't say who the pressure rate was against and pressure rate disbursement. Was he the primary edge? 5th man? 6th? Against an OT, TE, RB? Did he have a massive game against Rutgers then have problems vs decent OT's?
Really want to see where his strength is and why I say it's necessary to disguise him?
Go to 2:14 on the delay pressure. The only reason Penn State's QB doesn't get lit up is because their RB caught this out of the very corner of his eye... almost by the pure luck of timing.
He's basically a will backer who you can get creative with on passing D&D's. Because his first step is pretty damn good when he is flying downhill.
Oh I don't disagree that he isn't going to come into the league and immediately start on every down on the edge. He'll need time to round out his game but the foundation and the athleticism are there. In the meantime, as you said, he can be used very effectively and creatively as a pass rusher.
It is also important to note we have basically 0 organic interior pass rush in 2019 (really missing Mo Hurst). To get pressure Don Brown had to do some different things in the front 7. And like I said earlier, we ran a lot more 3-3-5 sets to get Uche on the field and create that pressure.
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There in lies my issue with PFF. They don't say who the pressure rate was against and pressure rate disbursement. Was he the primary edge? 5th man? 6th? Against an OT, TE, RB? Did he have a massive game against Rutgers then have problems vs decent OT's?
Really want to see where his strength is and why I say it's necessary to disguise him?
Go to 2:14 on the delay pressure. The only reason Penn State's QB doesn't get lit up is because their RB caught this out of the very corner of his eye... almost by the pure luck of timing.
He's basically a will backer who you can get creative with on passing D&D's. Because his first step is pretty damn good when he is flying downhill.
Oh I don't disagree that he isn't going to come into the league and immediately start on every down on the edge. He'll need time to round out his game but the foundation and the athleticism are there. In the meantime, as you said, he can be used very effectively and creatively as a pass rusher.
It is also important to note we have basically 0 organic interior pass rush in 2019 (really missing Mo Hurst). To get pressure Don Brown had to do some different things in the front 7. And like I said earlier, we ran a lot more 3-3-5 sets to get Uche on the field and create that pressure.
It is also important to note we have...
WHADAYA mean "we"?
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I can find a good video explaining what a 3-3-5 front is so you can follow along Gip.
Maybe a "My First Football Game" pop up book explaining the different type of linebackers?
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It is also important to note we have...
WHADAYA mean "we"?
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Overrated clap clap clap clap clap
I can find a good video explaining what a 3-3-5 front is so you can follow along Gip.
Maybe a "My First Football Game" pop up book explaining the different type of linebackers?
I can find a good video explaining what a 3-3-5 front is so you can follow along Gip.
Maybe a "My First Football Game" pop up book explaining the different type of linebackers?
Caught me one:
(and when was this ever about "what kind of LB he is....the issue is simply that no matter where/how he plays or lines up....you will over estimate his abilities simply because he comes from Fishagain.!
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I can find a good video explaining what a 3-3-5 front is so you can follow along Gip.
Maybe a "My First Football Game" pop up book explaining the different type of linebackers?
Caught me one:
(and when was this ever about "what kind of LB he is....the issue is simply that no matter where/how he plays or lines up....you will over estimate his abilities simply because he comes from Fishagain.!
Caught me one:
(and when was this ever about "what kind of LB he is....the issue is simply that no matter where/how he plays or lines up....you will over estimate his abilities simply because he comes from Fishagain.!
No, not really. Ask me about Shea Patterson? Lol.
And are you just going to claim you "got me" any time I respond to you?
I mean if you say the sky is yellow and I say "no Gip, it's blue" is that a "gotcha'?
Oh and the linebackers comment is me still making phone of you for not knowing that, while you go around and proclaim your football insight.
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Caught me one:
(and when was this ever about "what kind of LB he is....the issue is simply that no matter where/how he plays or lines up....you will over estimate his abilities simply because he comes from Fishagain.!
No, not really. Ask me about Shea Patterson? Lol.
And are you just going to claim you "got me" any time I respond to you?
I mean if you say the sky is yellow and I say "no Gip, it's blue" is that a "gotcha'?
Oh and the linebackers comment is me still making phone of you for not knowing that, while you go around and proclaim your football insight.
No, not really. Ask me about Shea Patterson? Lol.
And are you just going to claim you "got me" any time I respond to you?
I mean if you say the sky is yellow and I say "no Gip, it's blue" is that a "gotcha'?
No....only when I put an obvious post intended to trap you and get your goat.....and then your goat is gotten. Like this. I played on your sychophanaticism and you bit like a carp.
Uchee coochee may be a fine player...but who cares.
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Football fans?
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