Joe on thin ice?
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You fail to understand that I'm saying that some unions forgot their role, and became corrupt, greedy to the end, and self-justifying antagonistic towards Corp America in general. The AFL-CIO is a prime example. The Teamsters, at least back in the day, are another.
Yes, I did. Yes they did. Yes, they were. We're a lot more aligned than you might expect on Unions thru history.
But you tend to talk like we are still is "back in the day."... and we are not.
The Corporate America you appear to want to save from unions is far more dangerous to the individual than any union will ever be. If Corporations are people (and they are not), then by and large they are soulless folk.
The Corporate America you appear to want to save from unions is far more dangerous to the individual than any union will ever be. If Corporations are people (and they are not), then by and large they are soulless folk.
True, but some corps are not soulless, they are just trying to stay in business. Greedy? some are. But some of the bigger unions are destructively corrupt. I'm not defending bad corps.
I'm talking about bad, powerful corrupt unions. Unions drove prices up, corps did not. Unions became far too powerful, the union brass got RICH, and eventually, the unions were not needed - they had terrific wages, safe working conditions, justified job security, etc etc.
But the union brass didn't want to be not needed anymore - they picked battles that were not necessary, etc, and eventually went way leftwing socialist progressive democrat politically to continue to have a giant fight, albeit a fake one, to continue to focus members on a "struggle", instead of having members say - "well, why do we need a union anymore? why are we always paying union dues, and they back every democrat candidate no matter how corrupt etc" ???
I'm not talking about good unions - this is not about firefighters, etc.
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The AFL–CIO engages in substantial political spending and activism, typically in support of Democrats and liberal or progressive policies. The AFL–CIO was formed in 1955 when the AFL and the CIO merged after a long estrangement. Membership in the union peaked in 1979, when the AFL–CIO had nearly twenty million members.
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That is the AFL-CIO, Their president? Richard Trumka.
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Service Employees International Union - Conservapedia
https://www.conservapedia.com/Service_Employees_International_UnionThe Service Employees International Union (SEIU) is a socialist, politically powerful labor union with 2 million members in the United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico, and the largest union of property service workers in the United States.
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Trump is a populist president..his america first agenda resonates with alot of americans. He came along at the right time. This whole crisis will only strengthen his position. He wins again. Dems just dont have a viable candidate.
When he starts bringing industry back from china especially big pharma...its a lock.
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Biden in a landslide.
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Biden in a landslide.
Biden in a landslide.
Your wasted. Lol.
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I don't think anyone is confident behind Joe. Just making the point that, in national polls against Trump, he's still doing fine.
and yes, right, any time there is any poll you don't like the answer will forever be "no that doesn't count because they said Trump would lose!"...
Trump, of course, was an incredibly unique situation at the time. Things that polling places weren't ready for
When you have two terrible candidates going up against each other there is a lot of uncertainty. Though it is looking like we'll have two terrible candidates again
Woody - "two terrible candidates" isn't why Pres Trump won - it was time for the political pendulum to swing back.
Pres Trump came to the forefront because of that. It isn't that he is loved and admired and people think he's pretty.
He isn't.
What he is, is a man I didn't like earlier, who honestly said the things a lot of people believed about our government.
Activist judges on the supreme court, all over the place. America first. Our Constitution. and he's kept so many promises already.
Biden had eight years of being a no leader. he's a TERRIBLE candidate. Higgardly was completely corrupt and vicious - a TERRIBLE candidate.
ObaMao was a terrific candidate - until it was clear he reversed who he was after getting elected - going way far left.
Take George Washington - a terrific candidate - but most of his life he was not a man I would have admired at all. But there came a time later in his life, when he accrued great wisdom and strength - like Pres Trump. Not my cup of tea, I called him a circus barker earlier on.
Pres Trump is a badly needed candidate. Ben Franklin was an ornery but brilliant cad in his early years. But later in life, he became a great man, as did George Washington.
Pres Trump is not a great man - he's being a great president. Keeping his promises we need him to keep is part of the great job he has done. For all of his faults, he IS a leader.
Pres Trump is hardly a terrible candidate, Woody. He won the first election. Biden won't win this one.
Woody - "two terrible candidates" isn't why Pres Trump won - it was time for the political pendulum to swing back.
It was and yes, it is...
Hope y'all keep underestimating, Joe as much as I did Trump... cost me a case of Christmas brew...
Also never ceases to amaze me how a man of the people like cal fails to understand the role of unions.
Cal is right. Recall that those 2016 Trump campaign rallies were nothing like we've ever seen before. But if you weren't aware of that perhaps it was because CNN avoided coverage of those massive crowds at all costs.
Those people that filled the arenas were not there because of "two terrible candidates". Millions of former Obama voters from the rust belt states did not vote for Trump because they thought he was the better of two evils, I assure you.
Anyone still touting that tired "both candidates were terrible" song and dance are simply in denial over the enthusiasm and excitement this guy generated.
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Woody - "two terrible candidates" isn't why Pres Trump won - it was time for the political pendulum to swing back.
It was and yes, it is...
Hope y'all keep underestimating, Joe as much as I did Trump... cost me a case of Christmas brew...
Also never ceases to amaze me how a man of the people like cal fails to understand the role of unions.
Cal is right. Recall that those 2016 Trump campaign rallies were nothing like we've ever seen before. But if you weren't aware of that perhaps it was because CNN avoided coverage of those massive crowds at all costs.
Those people that filled the arenas were not there because of "two terrible candidates". Millions of former Obama voters from the rust belt states did not vote for Trump because they thought he was the better of two evils, I assure you.
Anyone still touting that tired "both candidates were terrible" song and dance are simply in denial over the enthusiasm and excitement this guy generated.
Cal is right. Recall that those 2016 Trump campaign rallies were nothing like we've ever seen before. But if you weren't aware of that perhaps it was because CNN avoided coverage of those massive crowds at all costs.
Those people that filled the arenas were not there because of "two terrible candidates". Millions of former Obama voters from the rust belt states did not vote for Trump because they thought he was the better of two evils, I assure you.
Anyone still touting that tired "both candidates were terrible" song and dance are simply in denial over the enthusiasm and excitement this guy generated.
I disagree. Both candidates were terrible. And it's looking like we're headed for that again. Though the Dem candidate will have different baggage this time. Trump will just have more examples of the same baggage.
Or maybe it's all a deep state conspiracy???? Maybe Clinton foundation uranium one Wuhan lab Coronavirus Benghazi?
Wake up sheeple
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well, woodpecker, just once, bird up and tell us how Pres Trump has failed and done bad things.
Not that you would know bad things, you wouldn't admit any of them for eight years of your obaMao commie.
A LOT of Real Americans LOVE the leadership that Pres Trump has shown.
you just bitch at posters on the forum, otherwise, you can't muster much of any kind of legit opinion about anything.
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"but then never remember where he hid them"
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