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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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    Who do you think you are? Dutch or Gipper? In either case I expect grading... 😉

    Which prospect will go earlier than most expect... Murray

    Which prospect will go later than most expect... Simmons

    How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round... 7

    How many OT's will come off the board in the first round... 6

    Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft... Yes

    Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week... Yes

    Late round sleeper is... Khalil Davis

    Biggest bust is... Becton

    Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders... Cinci's #1, but I take Burrow

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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      Which prospect will go earlier than most expect

      Tristan Wirfs goes Top 5


      Which prospect will go later than most expect

      Becton will last until later in first round.

      How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round

      Does it matter to us.  (we won't be taking one until Day 3 if then)   I say only 3. 

      How many OT's will come off the board in the first round

      Five (5)     and 4 QBs.

      Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft

      Oh yes.   Over/under is  2 trades.  Depo loves getting more picks.  (yes, I said Depo...as I am sure he has significant control over that. After all, he is "Chief Strategy Officer"....and strategy is employed first and foremost in the draft. 

      Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week

      50/50    (who the hell do we have to trade....and don't say OBJ)

      Late round sleeper is

      Evan Weaver  LB

      Biggest bust is

      Its got to be one of the QBs....even if it isn't, it will be perceived to be.    And here is my  Wild Ass Prediction:    Tua.

      If not that WAG, then Henry Ruggs.   Man cannot live on speed alone. 

      Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders

      I am not really getting what you are asking here. Would I trade the #10 pick for the #1 pick straight up?  Sure....of course.  Or...would I trade our #10 for Miami's 3 first rounders.  Sure, of course.    Or, which of those deals would I rather have?    Right now for the Browns....the Miami deal. 

      So, now, come up with somewhat realistic trade scenario....because none of the above would ever happen.

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        darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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        If you had the option would you wish you had Bengals pick at 1 or the 3 Dolphins picks.... not trading for them.....just wish you had that teams position in the draft

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          If you had the option would you wish you had Bengals pick at 1 or the 3 Dolphins picks.... not trading for them.....just wish you had that teams position in the draft

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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          @darren15 said:

          If you had the option would you wish you had Bengals pick at 1 or the 3 Dolphins picks.... not trading for them.....just wish you had that teams position in the draft

          Ah...OK.   

          For the Browns, for this year, I think the  Miami picks:   5, 18, 26.

          So, what could we get with those picks would fill out our top needs:  Probably our top OT pick.  Murray or Queen or Baun at LB;  Delpit/McKinney at  Safety. 

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            Which prospect will go earlier than most expect


            Which prospect will go later than most expect

            How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round

            How many OT's will come off the board in the first round

            Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft

            Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week

            Late round sleeper is

            Biggest bust is

            Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders
             

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            @darren15 said:

            Which prospect will go earlier than most expect

            Trautman and Love


            Which prospect will go later than most expect

            Tua and Becton 

            How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round

            Jeudy, Lamb, Ricks, Higgins, Jefferson, Auiyak 

            How many OT's will come off the board in the first round
            4.

            Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft

            trade down in the 1st and then trade up from the 2nd. 

            Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week

            Yes

            Late round sleeper is
             

            Two backs- McFarland and Darrynton Evans  Too many others to name 

            Biggest bust is

            Becton- gonna get eaten alive by grown men professionals.

            D. Brown- he’s ordinary.  Probably a decent run stuffer but you don’t pay for that in the Top 10.

            Tee Higgins- I see ordinary here too. 

            Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders.

            Probably Neither.  But I think Young is one of the few elite prospects in this draft.  This draft will be known for rounds 3-5.
             

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              Jalen Hurts

              Tua 

              Five

              Four

              Yes

              Yes

              Bust = Burrow. Nearly as old as Weeden 😉 
               

              Know nothing about sleepers 

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                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts


                Which prospect will go later than most expect. RB Jonathan Taylor.

                How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round  6

                How many OT's will come off the board in the first round  6

                Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft. Yes.  They will trade down and up.

                Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week. Yes. Trade a player for pick(s)

                Late round sleeper is RB Joshua Kelley UCLA

                Biggest bust is S Grant Delpit - when tackling is an issue for a safety it's as big of a red flag as a WR that drops too many passes. 

                Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders - Miami's 3 first rounders.

                I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                  Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts


                  Which prospect will go later than most expect. RB Jonathan Taylor.

                  How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round  6

                  How many OT's will come off the board in the first round  6

                  Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft. Yes.  They will trade down and up.

                  Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week. Yes. Trade a player for pick(s)

                  Late round sleeper is RB Joshua Kelley UCLA

                  Biggest bust is S Grant Delpit - when tackling is an issue for a safety it's as big of a red flag as a WR that drops too many passes. 

                  Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders - Miami's 3 first rounders.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @flugel said:

                  Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

                  Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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                    Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

                    Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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                    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                    London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                      London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @flugel said:

                      London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

                      I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

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                        @flugel said:

                        London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

                        I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

                        Even with all the rankings you've "surveyed"?

                        Odd since most of the ones I can recall have him going in the 3rd.

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                          @flugel said:

                          London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

                          I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

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                          FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                          @the-gipper said:

                          I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

                          In the Athlon Sports' Draft Guide - he's projected in the 4th round.  Although among their QB rankings, he's ranked 8th behind Burrow, Tag, Herbert, Love, Fromm, Eason, and Stanley with a draft projection of 3rd-4th round.  Lindy's Draft Guide has him ranked 7th among QBs - projected for round 4.  Todd McShay has him going somewhere on day 3.  PFF's mock draft has him going at #75 to the Colts, which is in round 3.

                          I think I'm okay to conclude late 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd round exceeds a lot of the expectations/projections I've seen for the guy.

                          I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                            Well I found an interesting article on undervalued prospects, among whom are Delpit (flug's fav?) and my actual favorite to surprise, Duvernay from UT-Austin.

                            https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/LongFormArticle/NFL-Draft-2020-The-undervalued-college-stars-at-each-position-146297164/#146297164_1

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                              @flugel said:

                              Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

                              Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                              OK... feel a little better about my answer (Murray) now...

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

                                Even with all the rankings you've "surveyed"?

                                Odd since most of the ones I can recall have him going in the 3rd.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Even with all the rankings you've "surveyed"?

                                Odd since most of the ones I can recall have him going in the 3rd.

                                Oh, yes,   I agree that all the rankings have him as a third/4th round talent.    And I agree that he is a 3rd/4th round talent.

                                So let me clarify:   I personally would EXPECT him to go as high as the 2d round.   He is a QB,   one with a name, one with a national championship to his resume.    QBs get overdrafted often.    And I suspect one with his creds to be overdrafted. 

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

                                  In the Athlon Sports' Draft Guide - he's projected in the 4th round.  Although among their QB rankings, he's ranked 8th behind Burrow, Tag, Herbert, Love, Fromm, Eason, and Stanley with a draft projection of 3rd-4th round.  Lindy's Draft Guide has him ranked 7th among QBs - projected for round 4.  Todd McShay has him going somewhere on day 3.  PFF's mock draft has him going at #75 to the Colts, which is in round 3.

                                  I think I'm okay to conclude late 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd round exceeds a lot of the expectations/projections I've seen for the guy.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @flugel said:

                                  In the Athlon Sports' Draft Guide - he's projected in the 4th round.  Although among their QB rankings, he's ranked 8th behind Burrow, Tag, Herbert, Love, Fromm, Eason, and Stanley with a draft projection of 3rd-4th round.  Lindy's Draft Guide has him ranked 7th among QBs - projected for round 4.  Todd McShay has him going somewhere on day 3.  PFF's mock draft has him going at #75 to the Colts, which is in round 3.

                                  I think I'm okay to conclude late 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd round exceeds a lot of the expectations/projections I've seen for the guy.

                                  OK, fair enough.     I guess I am saying that it would not surprise me if he goes in round 2.  So maybe that is just another way of saying:   Hurts answers the question:  who will go drafted higher than expected.   

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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                                    London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    @flugel said:

                                    London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

                                    NE in the 1st was a call I made a while back, but if Bill doesn't grab Hurts there, then I have a feeling Dallas might go after him in the 2nd.

                                    I've already made the Dak 2.0 comment so what better way to put a little pressure on Dak to get a deal done than to draft his clone? Of course they are two picks behind the Steelers, so if Tomlin is interested, then da 'Boys will have to leap frog them to land Hurts.

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                                      Which prospect will go earlier than most expect


                                      Which prospect will go later than most expect

                                      How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round

                                      How many OT's will come off the board in the first round

                                      Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft

                                      Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week

                                      Late round sleeper is

                                      Biggest bust is

                                      Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders
                                       

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                                      @darren15 said:

                                      How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round? Answer: 6

                                      How many OT's will come off the board in the first round? Answer: 6

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                                        @flugel said:

                                        Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

                                        Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                                        Going in the middle second round now means he didn’t get drafted a lot higher than expected 

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