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  • Flugel FlugelF Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts


    Which prospect will go later than most expect. RB Jonathan Taylor.

    How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round  6

    How many OT's will come off the board in the first round  6

    Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft. Yes.  They will trade down and up.

    Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week. Yes. Trade a player for pick(s)

    Late round sleeper is RB Joshua Kelley UCLA

    Biggest bust is S Grant Delpit - when tackling is an issue for a safety it's as big of a red flag as a WR that drops too many passes. 

    Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders - Miami's 3 first rounders.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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      Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts


      Which prospect will go later than most expect. RB Jonathan Taylor.

      How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round  6

      How many OT's will come off the board in the first round  6

      Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft. Yes.  They will trade down and up.

      Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week. Yes. Trade a player for pick(s)

      Late round sleeper is RB Joshua Kelley UCLA

      Biggest bust is S Grant Delpit - when tackling is an issue for a safety it's as big of a red flag as a WR that drops too many passes. 

      Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders - Miami's 3 first rounders.

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      @flugel said:

      Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

      Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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        @flugel said:

        Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

        Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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        @tour2ma said:

        Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

        London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

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          @tour2ma said:

          Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

          London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @flugel said:

          London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

          I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

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            @flugel said:

            London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

            I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

            Even with all the rankings you've "surveyed"?

            Odd since most of the ones I can recall have him going in the 3rd.

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              @flugel said:

              London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

              I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

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              @the-gipper said:

              I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

              In the Athlon Sports' Draft Guide - he's projected in the 4th round.  Although among their QB rankings, he's ranked 8th behind Burrow, Tag, Herbert, Love, Fromm, Eason, and Stanley with a draft projection of 3rd-4th round.  Lindy's Draft Guide has him ranked 7th among QBs - projected for round 4.  Todd McShay has him going somewhere on day 3.  PFF's mock draft has him going at #75 to the Colts, which is in round 3.

              I think I'm okay to conclude late 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd round exceeds a lot of the expectations/projections I've seen for the guy.

              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                Well I found an interesting article on undervalued prospects, among whom are Delpit (flug's fav?) and my actual favorite to surprise, Duvernay from UT-Austin.

                https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/LongFormArticle/NFL-Draft-2020-The-undervalued-college-stars-at-each-position-146297164/#146297164_1

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                  @flugel said:

                  Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

                  Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                  OK... feel a little better about my answer (Murray) now...

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

                    Even with all the rankings you've "surveyed"?

                    Odd since most of the ones I can recall have him going in the 3rd.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Even with all the rankings you've "surveyed"?

                    Odd since most of the ones I can recall have him going in the 3rd.

                    Oh, yes,   I agree that all the rankings have him as a third/4th round talent.    And I agree that he is a 3rd/4th round talent.

                    So let me clarify:   I personally would EXPECT him to go as high as the 2d round.   He is a QB,   one with a name, one with a national championship to his resume.    QBs get overdrafted often.    And I suspect one with his creds to be overdrafted. 

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      I would not be under the impression that him going in round 2 would be  "earlier than expected".   That is about where I would expect him to go. 

                      In the Athlon Sports' Draft Guide - he's projected in the 4th round.  Although among their QB rankings, he's ranked 8th behind Burrow, Tag, Herbert, Love, Fromm, Eason, and Stanley with a draft projection of 3rd-4th round.  Lindy's Draft Guide has him ranked 7th among QBs - projected for round 4.  Todd McShay has him going somewhere on day 3.  PFF's mock draft has him going at #75 to the Colts, which is in round 3.

                      I think I'm okay to conclude late 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd round exceeds a lot of the expectations/projections I've seen for the guy.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @flugel said:

                      In the Athlon Sports' Draft Guide - he's projected in the 4th round.  Although among their QB rankings, he's ranked 8th behind Burrow, Tag, Herbert, Love, Fromm, Eason, and Stanley with a draft projection of 3rd-4th round.  Lindy's Draft Guide has him ranked 7th among QBs - projected for round 4.  Todd McShay has him going somewhere on day 3.  PFF's mock draft has him going at #75 to the Colts, which is in round 3.

                      I think I'm okay to conclude late 1st round or anywhere in the 2nd round exceeds a lot of the expectations/projections I've seen for the guy.

                      OK, fair enough.     I guess I am saying that it would not surprise me if he goes in round 2.  So maybe that is just another way of saying:   Hurts answers the question:  who will go drafted higher than expected.   

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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                        London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @flugel said:

                        London actually beat me to it with Hurts.  I've had a sick feeling he's gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler in round 2, if NE doesn't take him at #23 (or via trade back a little further). And then it was recently mentioned on the NFL Channel or ESPN that Mike Tomlin likes him a lot.  

                        NE in the 1st was a call I made a while back, but if Bill doesn't grab Hurts there, then I have a feeling Dallas might go after him in the 2nd.

                        I've already made the Dak 2.0 comment so what better way to put a little pressure on Dak to get a deal done than to draft his clone? Of course they are two picks behind the Steelers, so if Tomlin is interested, then da 'Boys will have to leap frog them to land Hurts.

                        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                          Which prospect will go earlier than most expect


                          Which prospect will go later than most expect

                          How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round

                          How many OT's will come off the board in the first round

                          Will the Browns trade up or down at least once during the draft

                          Will the Browns trade a player for pick(s) or trade pick(s) for a player this week

                          Late round sleeper is

                          Biggest bust is

                          Would you rather swap 10 for Cinci's number 1 pick and probably take Chase Young or Miami's 3 first rounders
                           

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                          How Many WR's will come off the board in the 1st round? Answer: 6

                          How many OT's will come off the board in the first round? Answer: 6

                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                            @flugel said:

                            Which prospect will go earlier than most expect. Jalen Hurts

                            Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @tour2ma said:

                            Makes me want to change my answer... dammit...

                            Going in the middle second round now means he didn’t get drafted a lot higher than expected 

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