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  • I think you have been drinking too much milk of the poppy. 

    Break it down more this way, into 2 parts or 2 separate trades:  

    A.   You give up a 27 year old  WR  for a 32 year old tackle.    (NOT a good value for us IMO)

    B. Then you trade  #10,  #41 and #74  for #2

    The trade value charts do no support this.....but in opposite ways:

    JJ Chart:   #2...2600   for 1300 + 490 + 220= 2010    Here, not a good deal for Wash.

    The preferred Harvard Chart:  #2 435.7  for  299.1 + 160.8 + 118.4   = 578.3  .....a shit deal for us. 

    So, as I see it, you are screwing us...in terms of the numbers. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I think you have been drinking too much milk of the poppy. 

    Break it down more this way, into 2 parts or 2 separate trades:  

    A.   You give up a 27 year old  WR  for a 32 year old tackle.    (NOT a good value for us IMO)

    B. Then you trade  #10,  #41 and #74  for #2

    The trade value charts do no support this.....but in opposite ways:

    JJ Chart:   #2...2600   for 1300 + 490 + 220= 2010    Here, not a good deal for Wash.

    The preferred Harvard Chart:  #2 435.7  for  299.1 + 160.8 + 118.4   = 578.3  .....a shit deal for us. 

    So, as I see it, you are screwing us...in terms of the numbers. 

    Yeah, I considered that.  Not in as much detail though.  But if you have Garret and Young on the edge, man.   And Trent and Conklin playing tackles, Baker would be set.  Throwing to Landry, Hooper, Njoku and perhaps we resign Higgins.  Not to mention Chubb and Hunt at RB.  We Stephanski loves to run the football.  It just seems to have a winner written all over it.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    I think you have been drinking too much milk of the poppy. 

    Break it down more this way, into 2 parts or 2 separate trades:  

    A.   You give up a 27 year old  WR  for a 32 year old tackle.    (NOT a good value for us IMO)

    B. Then you trade  #10,  #41 and #74  for #2

    The trade value charts do no support this.....but in opposite ways:

    JJ Chart:   #2...2600   for 1300 + 490 + 220= 2010    Here, not a good deal for Wash.

    The preferred Harvard Chart:  #2 435.7  for  299.1 + 160.8 + 118.4   = 578.3  .....a shit deal for us. 

    So, as I see it, you are screwing us...in terms of the numbers. 

    Yeah, I considered that.  Not in as much detail though.  But if you have Garret and Young on the edge, man.   And Trent and Conklin playing tackles, Baker would be set.  Throwing to Landry, Hooper, Njoku and perhaps we resign Higgins.  Not to mention Chubb and Hunt at RB.  We Stephanski loves to run the football.  It just seems to have a winner written all over it.  

    @dawg2fan said:

    Yeah, I considered that.  Not in as much detail though.  But if you have Garret and Young on the edge, man.   And Trent and Conklin playing tackles, Baker would be set.  Throwing to Landry, Hooper, Njoku and perhaps we resign Higgins.  Not to mention Chubb and Hunt at RB.  We Stephanski loves to run the football.  It just seems to have a winner written all over it.  

    Why, though, would   Washington give up on the chance to get Young?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    My guess is, if Thomas goes before ten, and Simmons is also gone, we definitely trade down. I think.

    Goofy Mel Kiper has us taking Becton at ten... nah. How many times has Kiper been wrong?

    I wonder what the odds are, that another team will trade ahead of the Browns to get the one immediate starter at LT, Thomas.

    Then I will need that Kardiac Kids foam brick to throw at the tv.

    Yea, well,  the problem is that no matter what all y'all think,   no matter if people here say that Becton will be a bust,  no matter how you all rate any of these players,  ain't but 2 or 3 opinions that matter  (well...I will give it 4-5:   Berry/Depo/Stefanski/Haslam...and maybe some top scout.   

    To paraphrase Freddie Kitchens:  If your name ain't one of them.....you don't matter!

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, well,  the problem is that no matter what all y'all think,   no matter if people here say that Becton will be a bust,  no matter how you all rate any of these players,  ain't but 2 or 3 opinions that matter  (well...I will give it 4-5:   Berry/Depo/Stefanski/Haslam...and maybe some top scout.   

    To paraphrase Freddie Kitchens:  If your name ain't one of them.....you don't matter!

    but I'll be wearing brown and orange, so I will matter.......giphy.gif

  • @dawg2fan said:

    Yeah, I considered that.  Not in as much detail though.  But if you have Garret and Young on the edge, man.   And Trent and Conklin playing tackles, Baker would be set.  Throwing to Landry, Hooper, Njoku and perhaps we resign Higgins.  Not to mention Chubb and Hunt at RB.  We Stephanski loves to run the football.  It just seems to have a winner written all over it.  

    Why, though, would   Washington give up on the chance to get Young?

    @the-gipper said:

    Why, though, would   Washington give up on the chance to get Young?

    Someones wet dream went.. "SPLAT"

  • @dawg2fan said:

    Yeah, I considered that.  Not in as much detail though.  But if you have Garret and Young on the edge, man.   And Trent and Conklin playing tackles, Baker would be set.  Throwing to Landry, Hooper, Njoku and perhaps we resign Higgins.  Not to mention Chubb and Hunt at RB.  We Stephanski loves to run the football.  It just seems to have a winner written all over it.  

    Why, though, would   Washington give up on the chance to get Young?

    @the-gipper said:

    Why, though, would   Washington give up on the chance to get Young?

    Yes, but think about what they'd be getting though.  #10, #41, #74 and Odell Beckum Jr.  I think that's more than enticing. And you would have to think we'd sign Trent to a 4 year deal.  If it doesn't work out, but probably release him.  Happens a lot in the NFL these days.   I don't think this will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. 

  • Considering this front office loves draft picks that just screams other direction.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why, though, would   Washington give up on the chance to get Young?

    Yes, but think about what they'd be getting though.  #10, #41, #74 and Odell Beckum Jr.  I think that's more than enticing. And you would have to think we'd sign Trent to a 4 year deal.  If it doesn't work out, but probably release him.  Happens a lot in the NFL these days.   I don't think this will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. 

    @dawg2fan said:

    Yes, but think about what they'd be getting though.  #10, #41, #74 and Odell Beckum Jr.  I think that's more than enticing. And you would have to think we'd sign Trent to a 4 year deal.  If it doesn't work out, but probably release him.  Happens a lot in the NFL these days.   I don't think this will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. 

    I would be immensely surprised.  

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  • I just have a feeling that the defensive line or Simmons will be our #1 priority, then OT.

  • Considering this front office loves draft picks that just screams other direction.

    @barry said:

    Considering this front office loves draft picks that just screams other direction.

    Could always turn around and trade the #2... but that's a lot of value to recoup.

  • From Trent's InstaGram account last nite...

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    Anyone fluent in emoji?

  • Yeah not interested in this one. I think there’s more value in these first few rounds than eight spots in the first. Especially with the holes we have to fill.

  • Even if you believe trading for Williams is crazy, this close to the draft the ask for Williams is likely draft pick No. 74 and possibly a later pick in 2021.

    What are the chances the Browns draft an All-Pro caliber player at that pick? Yes, Williams has injury concerns, but being off the field for a year to heal properly may be just what he needed. Rob Gronkowski is in the same boat, and I’ll see is the excitement that he is now headed to Tampa Bay.

    Also, if Williams is set on getting out of a bad situation what’s to say he won’t sign a shorter-term contract? If the Browns could lock Williams up in a contract like Jack Conklin (likely a few million more), they immediately improve their offensive line and keep cap space flexibility moving forward.

    If healthy, which you must believe after not playing in 2019, Williams is a better performer than any of the top-four offensive line prospects.  Don’t forget the kicker in this scenario, the Browns STILL have pick no. 10 in their pocket.

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2020/04/23/trent-williams-cleveland-browns-finally-happening/

  • From Trent's InstaGram account last nite...

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    Anyone fluent in emoji?

    @tour2ma said:

    From Trent's InstaGram account last nite...

    image.png.d6ac2c1c134a29b656072abdcaac9b8f.png

    Anyone fluent in emoji?

    A wild GUESS... 3 teams with eyes on him...praying on one....  edit--can we flip some skins picks? they own 2/no 2nd//3rd-66//4ths-108-142//a 5th-162//2 7th-216 &229??

  • I just have a feeling that the defensive line or Simmons will be our #1 priority, then OT.

    @barry said:

    I just have a feeling that the defensive line or Simmons will be our #1 priority, then OT.

    I don't. The top 4 LTs seem a lot better than the next group, and they are still committed to Baker, so get him a wall at LT to give him a shot. 

  • I like Odell, but there's still a part of me that screams he doesn't want to be here.  So why not trade up and get Young and Williams, if its true.  However, if we keep him and he truly performs, I guess we cant complain there either.  

  • seriously, if we see Simmons,Okudah or D.Brown drop to 10..Than we give up a 3rd for Trent Williams?.. my street lights may not want to be on while I streak the neighborhood ?   

  • @barry said:

    I just have a feeling that the defensive line or Simmons will be our #1 priority, then OT.

    I don't. The top 4 LTs seem a lot better than the next group, and they are still committed to Baker, so get him a wall at LT to give him a shot. 

    @icecube said:

    I don't. The top 4 LTs seem a lot better than the next group, and they are still committed to Baker, so get him a wall at LT to give him a shot. 

    The reason I say that is the many rumors about us willing to trade down, and the fact that we went hard after Clowney and Williams. Clowney = a willingness to pay a lot to upgrade the DL and trading for Williams = willingness to pay a lot in $ and picks instead of drafting one of the top OTs.  But you could be right. We'll know in a few hours!

  • seriously, if we see Simmons,Okudah or D.Brown drop to 10..Than we give up a 3rd for Trent Williams?.. my street lights may not want to be on while I streak the neighborhood ?   

    @gumby73 said:

    seriously, if we see Simmons,Okudah or D.Brown drop to 10..Than we give up a 3rd for Trent Williams?.. my street lights may not want to be on while I streak the neighborhood ?   

    Is the "3rd for Williams" even a real thing, or just a hope? Any of the 3 players you mention would be hard to pass on, but I don't see it. 

  • I like Odell, but there's still a part of me that screams he doesn't want to be here.  So why not trade up and get Young and Williams, if its true.  However, if we keep him and he truly performs, I guess we cant complain there either.  

    @dawg2fan said:

    I like Odell, but there's still a part of me that screams he doesn't want to be here.  So why not trade up and get Young and Williams, if its true.  However, if we keep him and he truly performs, I guess we cant complain there either.  

    Hello, McFly, is anybody home?    Washington may want fuck all to do with OBJ...if you think he is what he is here...maybe they have the same opinon.......and they are salivating at having  Young on their team.  I know that Planet Earth has its faults, but come back to Earth regardless. 

  • @gumby73 said:

    seriously, if we see Simmons,Okudah or D.Brown drop to 10..Than we give up a 3rd for Trent Williams?.. my street lights may not want to be on while I streak the neighborhood ?   

    Is the "3rd for Williams" even a real thing, or just a hope? Any of the 3 players you mention would be hard to pass on, but I don't see it. 

    @icecube said:

    Is the "3rd for Williams" even a real thing, or just a hope? Any of the 3 players you mention would be hard to pass on, but I don't see it. 

    Its a "hope" for me.....because I don't think I want to give up either 10 or 41 for him.   

    But I have no clue if that would do it....and I am sure the Skins would balk at that.