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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

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      Been reading some this morning ... The Browns got grades varying from A to B-

      Some teams got a D
      Raiders, Packers

      Cowboys got a C from one grader for drafting Lamb instead of a defensive back or edge rusher

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      @darren15 said:

      Been reading some this morning ... The Browns got grades varying from A to B-

      Some teams got a D
      Raiders, Packers

      Cowboys got a C from one grader for drafting Lamb instead of a defensive back or edge rusher

      Raiders take Ruggs purely because of his 50 time, the CB is a plus 4.5 guy - very curious to take a nickle back in the 1st round. 

      Packers took QB of the future; it worked out well when they did so with Rogers, time will tell. If Love turns into Mahomes, who will laugh then?

      Cowboys took a true star WR. Maybe they wish they didn't blow a wad on Cooper now. A true dominant edge rusher wasn't there. And, they have a few retreads on board they are hoping will turn out - the guy from SF who was dominant and is now clean. They can get a CB later. I'm not so sure taking Lamb was a mistake. When you can get a true playmaker you take them, period. 

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        Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

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        @the-gipper said:

        Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

        Absolutely i remember hearing how well we did when we got the next great NFL back and the most NFL ready QB in the first round.  
         

        most of us still have the draft scars to prove it 

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          Been reading some this morning ... The Browns got grades varying from A to B-

          Some teams got a D
          Raiders, Packers

          Cowboys got a C from one grader for drafting Lamb instead of a defensive back or edge rusher

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          @darren15 said:

          Been reading some this morning ... The Browns got grades varying from A to B-

          Some teams got a D
          Raiders, Packers

          Cowboys got a C from one grader for drafting Lamb instead of a defensive back or edge rusher

          I have no problem with Packers pick.  Someone on here made a great point about Rodgers contract in 2021 HUGE cap number.  He’s 36 too.  There are plenty of WRs and weapons to be had later in the draft 

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            @the-gipper said:

            Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

            Absolutely i remember hearing how well we did when we got the next great NFL back and the most NFL ready QB in the first round.  
             

            most of us still have the draft scars to prove it 

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @sdbacker80 said:

            Absolutely i remember hearing how well we did when we got the next great NFL back and the most NFL ready QB in the first round.  
             

            most of us still have the draft scars to prove it 

            I assume you mean 2012 with  TR and Weeden. 

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              @sdbacker80 said:

              Absolutely i remember hearing how well we did when we got the next great NFL back and the most NFL ready QB in the first round.  
               

              most of us still have the draft scars to prove it 

              I assume you mean 2012 with  TR and Weeden. 

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              @the-gipper said:

              I assume you mean 2012 with  TR and Weeden. 

              Yep.  I feel like we have a lot of these horror stories in the Dark Ages 1999-2017.

              we did set the Ravens up with a Hall of Famer just before we left though 

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                @darren15 said:

                Been reading some this morning ... The Browns got grades varying from A to B-

                Some teams got a D
                Raiders, Packers

                Cowboys got a C from one grader for drafting Lamb instead of a defensive back or edge rusher

                I have no problem with Packers pick.  Someone on here made a great point about Rodgers contract in 2021 HUGE cap number.  He’s 36 too.  There are plenty of WRs and weapons to be had later in the draft 

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                Geesh... what's a guy gotta do around here... 😉

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                  And the grade of all grades is in..

                  NFL obliterates old TV ratings record for draft, with 37 percent increase from last year

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-obliterates-old-tv-ratings-record-for-draft-with-37-percent-increase-from-last-year/ar-BB139G9d?ocid=spartandhp

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                    And the grade of all grades is in..

                    NFL obliterates old TV ratings record for draft, with 37 percent increase from last year

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-obliterates-old-tv-ratings-record-for-draft-with-37-percent-increase-from-last-year/ar-BB139G9d?ocid=spartandhp

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    And the grade of all grades is in..

                    NFL obliterates old TV ratings record for draft, with 37 percent increase from last year

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-obliterates-old-tv-ratings-record-for-draft-with-37-percent-increase-from-last-year/ar-BB139G9d?ocid=spartandhp

                    Everyone is home and most don't have to work the following day after the NFL stretches 32 picks to four damn hours. Lol

                    AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      And the grade of all grades is in..

                      NFL obliterates old TV ratings record for draft, with 37 percent increase from last year

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-obliterates-old-tv-ratings-record-for-draft-with-37-percent-increase-from-last-year/ar-BB139G9d?ocid=spartandhp

                      Everyone is home and most don't have to work the following day after the NFL stretches 32 picks to four damn hours. Lol

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @vagitron said:

                      Everyone is home and most don't have to work the following day after the NFL stretches 32 picks to four damn hours. Lol

                      But...that is down from like 5 hours, which has been normal.  

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                        @vagitron said:

                        Everyone is home and most don't have to work the following day after the NFL stretches 32 picks to four damn hours. Lol

                        But...that is down from like 5 hours, which has been normal.  

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                        VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                        But...that is down from like 5 hours, which has been normal.  

                        The first round? I don’t think it’s ever run that long. They milked the shit out of it yesterday.

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          But...that is down from like 5 hours, which has been normal.  

                          The first round? I don’t think it’s ever run that long. They milked the shit out of it yesterday.

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                          @vagitron said:

                          The first round? I don’t think it’s ever run that long. They milked the shit out of it yesterday.

                          Yes it has your memory is just faulty. 

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                            And the grade of all grades is in..

                            NFL obliterates old TV ratings record for draft, with 37 percent increase from last year

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-obliterates-old-tv-ratings-record-for-draft-with-37-percent-increase-from-last-year/ar-BB139G9d?ocid=spartandhp

                            Everyone is home and most don't have to work the following day after the NFL stretches 32 picks to four damn hours. Lol

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                            @vagitron said:

                            Everyone is home and most don't have to work the following day after the NFL stretches 32 picks to four damn hours. Lol

                            Uh oh...I just liked a Steeler Fan's post. What the hell lol

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                              GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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                              Draft grades are only for the here and now. Something to talk about. They are based on filling needs and quality of player. Grades do not project or reflect the teams success. It can take years to know how good or bad a draft was.

                              That said, according to nfl.com straight A's across the board for the AFCN.

                              http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111377/article/2020-nfl-draft-day-2-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams

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                                Did anyone realize that the Browns have drafted 10% of the SEC players taken so far??

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                                  Draft grades are only for the here and now. Something to talk about. They are based on filling needs and quality of player. Grades do not project or reflect the teams success. It can take years to know how good or bad a draft was.

                                  That said, according to nfl.com straight A's across the board for the AFCN.

                                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111377/article/2020-nfl-draft-day-2-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @gorka said:

                                  Draft grades are only for the here and now. Something to talk about. They are based on filling needs and quality of player. Grades do not project or reflect the teams success. It can take years to know how good or bad a draft was.

                                  That said, according to nfl.com straight A's across the board for the AFCN.

                                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111377/article/2020-nfl-draft-day-2-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams

                                  If it is about filling needs....then the Browns did that so far, to a certain extent.   Needed LT...got one.  Needed safety...got one.  Needed LB...got one.  Needed some DL depth...got some.

                                  The only question is:  did we pick the right ones?   Will Wills be better than Wirfs?   Will Delpit be better than Winfield?  Will Phillips be better than Harrison?  Will Elliot be better than...whoever?  Only time will tell on these....and on what grade this draft will really become. 

                                  Will Wills turn out close to Joe Thomas....or be Austin Corbett/Cam Erving like?    Will Delpit be Eric Turner-ish....or Justin Gilbert-ish?  Will Phillips be Mike Singletary....or Mike Junkin? 

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                                    @gorka said:

                                    Draft grades are only for the here and now. Something to talk about. They are based on filling needs and quality of player. Grades do not project or reflect the teams success. It can take years to know how good or bad a draft was.

                                    That said, according to nfl.com straight A's across the board for the AFCN.

                                    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001111377/article/2020-nfl-draft-day-2-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams

                                    If it is about filling needs....then the Browns did that so far, to a certain extent.   Needed LT...got one.  Needed safety...got one.  Needed LB...got one.  Needed some DL depth...got some.

                                    The only question is:  did we pick the right ones?   Will Wills be better than Wirfs?   Will Delpit be better than Winfield?  Will Phillips be better than Harrison?  Will Elliot be better than...whoever?  Only time will tell on these....and on what grade this draft will really become. 

                                    Will Wills turn out close to Joe Thomas....or be Austin Corbett/Cam Erving like?    Will Delpit be Eric Turner-ish....or Justin Gilbert-ish?  Will Phillips be Mike Singletary....or Mike Junkin? 

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                                    GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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                                    If it is about filling needs....then the Browns did that so far, to a certain extent.   Needed LT...got one.  Needed safety...got one.  Needed LB...got one.  Needed some DL depth...got some.

                                    The only question is:  did we pick the right ones?   Will Wills be better than Wirfs?   Will Delpit be better than Winfield?  Will Phillips be better than Harrison?  Will Elliot be better than...whoever?  Only time will tell on these....and on what grade this draft will really become. 

                                    Will Wills turn out close to Joe Thomas....or be Austin Corbett/Cam Erving like?    Will Delpit be Eric Turner-ish....or Justin Gilbert-ish?  Will Phillips be Mike Singletary....or Mike Junkin? 

                                    Yep. You elaborated on what I was saying. Teams are graded on how they filled needs, not how the drafts pan out because no one knows.

                                    Browns get an A no doubt.

                                    So when some say "it's to early" to give grades. It really not. They need to put it into perspective.

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                                      Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

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                                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

                                      Isn't that what mock drafts, draft projections, the draft itself and chat rooms like this one are basically all about ?

                                      Grades, opinions, chat unless you think they are completely useless too, eh ?   😉

                                      ......think about that before you comment.    Hmmmm maybe every sports network is also completely useless, they all put out draft grades.   😆

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Honestly.....grading a draft now is a completely useless proposition.

                                        Isn't that what mock drafts, draft projections, the draft itself and chat rooms like this one are basically all about ?

                                        Grades, opinions, chat unless you think they are completely useless too, eh ?   😉

                                        ......think about that before you comment.    Hmmmm maybe every sports network is also completely useless, they all put out draft grades.   😆

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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        Isn't that what mock drafts, draft projections, the draft itself and chat rooms like this one are basically all about ?

                                        Grades, opinions, chat unless you think they are completely useless too, eh ?   😉

                                        ......think about that before you comment.    Hmmmm maybe every sports network is also completely useless, they all put out draft grades.   😆

                                        No.  You are wrong.  At least partially.  Yes,  doing a mock...beyond its primary purpose being to entertain, is a projection.   And certainly the draft itself is a projection made by the teams based on how good they think these players will be.  But giving that projection a grade before these players have put pencil to paper?

                                        I don't know.....In my college and law school career I would have liked to have just "projected" what my grades would have been on my tests.  Then I would have liked to have  that grade assessed to me, and therefore I would not have had to take the test.   Somehow my professors...nor the Dean of the school ...did not see it that way.

                                        These players have to take their test...and however they perform....then we can grade it.  That test consists of about 3 years playing in this league. 

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                                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                          there is absolutely nothing here to base a grade on when a bunch of college players have never laced up in the NFL.. 6-8 weeks gameday's in? yeah, we can talk..see ya than...

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