Andy Dalton Released
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Wow, they couldn’t get anything for him? Not even a low draft pick? I didn’t think he was that bad.
Well, when you consider that Winston and Newton were also essentially just let go without much in the way of takers, then the Bengals not getting anything for Dalton is not surprising.
Issue is: where does he land. To Bacon Hound: no, he won't fit here. We have Keenum who is a Stefanski favorite. And 3rd string Gilbert. I don't see him here.
Well, when you consider that Winston and Newton were also essentially just let go without much in the way of takers, then the Bengals not getting anything for Dalton is not surprising.
Issue is: where does he land. To Bacon Hound: no, he won't fit here. We have Keenum who is a Stefanski favorite. And 3rd string Gilbert. I don't see him here.
Talking heads in the sports media are all about Dalton heading to the Pats, but with their cap situation, I'm not sure how feasible or desirable that is.
Dallas, perhaps? I could see if Dak continues his contract dispute, Jerrah might just say fuck it and sign Dalton as a bridge QB. Doesn't hurt that Dalton is from Texas and played at TCU, either.
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At the right price wouldn’t mind seeing him as a backup to Baker
At the right price wouldn’t mind seeing him as a backup to Baker
As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
At the right price wouldn’t mind seeing him as a backup to Baker
As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
Still when the next quarterback panic hits like injuries and retirements hit teams will way overpay for anyone in a single digits or teens jersey number that can throw the ball.
A wave of retirements is on the horizon even with the newer don't touch the QB and WR rules.
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At the right price wouldn’t mind seeing him as a backup to Baker
As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
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At the right price wouldn’t mind seeing him as a backup to Baker
As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
I am not of the belief that any team is required to honor that contract if they were to pick him up. In a trade? Yes. But not now that he is basically on the street.
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This, plus the fact that it is a buyer's market right now. On a related note, it's surprising that Chicago hasn't made a play for any Qb yet.
Uh, Uhmm....they traded for Nick Foles...don't you call that "play" for a QB? And still have Trubisky.
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As a Browns fan living near Cincinnati, and who's seen Dalton's work first hand, he's definitely not worth the $18m/year just to be a backup.
Still when the next quarterback panic hits like injuries and retirements hit teams will way overpay for anyone in a single digits or teens jersey number that can throw the ball.
A wave of retirements is on the horizon even with the newer don't touch the QB and WR rules.
Still when the next quarterback panic hits like injuries and retirements hit teams will way overpay for anyone in a single digits of teens jersey number that can throw the ball.
A wave of retirements is on the horizon even with the newer don't touch the QB and WR rules.
Yep. started with Eli. Then we will have Brady, Brees, BR, Rivers. Green Bay as we have seen is making preparations for post-Rodgers life.
Jags seem to be in Tank for Trevor mode, somewhat. (doing fair job of rebuilding a lot of the rest of the team....but doing nothing about QB.)
Pats are in "move on mode" now....but to where/which direction.
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Uh, Uhmm....they traded for Nick Foles...don't you call that "play" for a QB? And still have Trubisky.
Nick Foles has never played more than half a season 6 out of 8 seasons. He is currently listed as Trubisky's back-up. Two years ago the Bears won 12 games and Trubisky sucks. No, I don't call that a play for a starting calibre Qb.
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Case Keenum is far the greater backup qb, imho.
Agree... while Andy would still strongly prefer to start, Case can content himself with being a backup. I don't see Andy being there yet.
Talking heads in the sports media are all about Dalton heading to the Pats, but with their cap situation, I'm not sure how feasible or desirable that is.
Bill won't woo Andy with $$$... he'll woo him with Lombardis...
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Wow, they couldn’t get anything for him? Not even a low draft pick? I didn’t think he was that bad.
Wow, they couldn’t get anything for him? Not even a low draft pick? I didn’t think he was that bad.
He's mostly bad when it matters the most (in the 4th Q and in big games). But, that's hardly ideal for a QB. ?
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Uh, Uhmm....they traded for Nick Foles...don't you call that "play" for a QB? And still have Trubisky.
Nick Foles has never played more than half a season 6 out of 8 seasons. He is currently listed as Trubisky's back-up. Two years ago the Bears won 12 games and Trubisky sucks. No, I don't call that a play for a starting calibre Qb.
Nick Foles has never played more than half a season 6 out of 8 seasons. He is currently listed as Trubisky's back-up. Two years ago the Bears won 12 games and Trubisky sucks. No, I don't call that a play for a starting calibre Qb.
Well, sorry, everyone else on planet earth would.
So, OK....he is not starting caliber (you spelled it calibre...are you British?)......he is Championship, Super Bowl MVP caliber.
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Well.. This is pure DUMBASSERY" on Cincitucky's part.... You don't dump your current starter just because you drafted a kid with potential... For all they know..... He could turn out to be Ryan Leaf.. But there's a reason why I call them "The Bungholios"
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If Keenum wasn't here, I'd sign him if I were the Browns in a second. He'd be a great backup QB.
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Well.. This is pure DUMBASSERY" on Cincitucky's part.... You don't dump your current starter just because you drafted a kid with potential... For all they know..... He could turn out to be Ryan Leaf.. But there's a reason why I call them "The Bungholios"
Well.. This is pure DUMBASSERY" on Cincitucky's part.... You don't dump your current starter just because you drafted a kid with potential... For all they know..... He could turn out to be Ryan Leaf.. But there's a reason why I call them "The Bungholios"
I thought it was "Cintucky"... oh well...
Don't forget Finley was their starter for much of early 2019... of course in part that is how they were in position to draft Burrow.
Only thing I can think is that Andy, perhaps by his mere presence, was so divisive in his backup role in 2019 that they knew they'd be better off with him gone. Plus if there are growing pains, then so be it... not as if a rookie QB vs. Dalton is the difference between making the playoffs or not. He hasn't made that difference in four years.
Plus there's also that there is 0% chance Burrow is Ryan Leaf-ish...
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Well.. This is pure DUMBASSERY" on Cincitucky's part.... You don't dump your current starter just because you drafted a kid with potential... For all they know..... He could turn out to be Ryan Leaf.. But there's a reason why I call them "The Bungholios"
Well.. This is pure DUMBASSERY" on Cincitucky's part.... You don't dump your current starter just because you drafted a kid with potential... For all they know..... He could turn out to be Ryan Leaf.. But there's a reason why I call them "The Bungholios"
Well, that is a fair point. However, I think the move was as much of a financial move as it was anything else. They have Ryan Finley to backup Burrow. I guess they want to go that route, for a while.
And while I don't think Burrow will bust on the order of Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell......I could not say that there is NO chance that he could be in the Sam Bradford, Alex Smith, David Carr category. Not that I am expecting that, it would just not be surprising to me.
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Well.. This is pure DUMBASSERY" on Cincitucky's part.... You don't dump your current starter just because you drafted a kid with potential... For all they know..... He could turn out to be Ryan Leaf.. But there's a reason why I call them "The Bungholios"
Well, that is a fair point. However, I think the move was as much of a financial move as it was anything else. They have Ryan Finley to backup Burrow. I guess they want to go that route, for a while.
And while I don't think Burrow will bust on the order of Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell......I could not say that there is NO chance that he could be in the Sam Bradford, Alex Smith, David Carr category. Not that I am expecting that, it would just not be surprising to me.
Well, that is a fair point. However, I think the move was as much of a financial move as it was anything else. They have Ryan Lindley to backup Burrow. I guess they want to go that route, for a while.
I think you meant to say Ryan Finley (Ryan Lindley was our QB Coach in 2019); and Finley should be a pretty good backup for Burrow.
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Nick Foles has never played more than half a season 6 out of 8 seasons. He is currently listed as Trubisky's back-up. Two years ago the Bears won 12 games and Trubisky sucks. No, I don't call that a play for a starting calibre Qb.
Well, sorry, everyone else on planet earth would.
So, OK....he is not starting caliber (you spelled it calibre...are you British?)......he is Championship, Super Bowl MVP caliber.
Well, sorry, everyone else on planet earth would.
So, OK....he is not starting caliber (you spelled it calibre...are you British?)......he is Championship, Super Bowl MVP caliber.
You are playing loose with words there Gipper. Super Bowl winning Qb is not a Super Bowl MVP caliBER Qb, at least not in my book.
Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Nick Foles...the list does not stop there. Those are SB winning Qbs but they are not SB calibre Qbs. I define the latter as franchise Qbs who can consistently give a team outstanding Qb play and winning football.
And is strange that if 'everyone' (really?) considered him a long-term starting Qb there has been few times where teams have decided to go with him (outside of injury to others), to lead their team into the season. No, in spite of your insistence I am going to stick to my guns on this one.
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Wow, they couldn’t get anything for him? Not even a low draft pick? I didn’t think he was that bad.
Wow, they couldn’t get anything for him? Not even a low draft pick? I didn’t think he was that bad.
I’m sure it was something about money owed. No one was going to take 17.5 mil to the face for dalton.
Talking heads in the sports media are all about Dalton heading to the Pats, but with their cap situation, I'm not sure how feasible or desirable that is.
Dallas, perhaps? I could see if Dak continues his contract dispute, Jerrah might just say fuck it and sign Dalton as a bridge QB. Doesn't hurt that Dalton is from Texas and played at TCU, either.
pats can create a bit of cap space extending a few dudes, enough to get him if they wanted. If he wants to start I don’t see anywhere sale in the league that makes sense. If that’s the case I was reading pats could scrape up $10 mil or so.
Crazy one to me is cam newton. My fear is he realizes he’s a backup now and goes to the logical spot in Baltimore.
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Well, sorry, everyone else on planet earth would.
So, OK....he is not starting caliber (you spelled it calibre...are you British?)......he is Championship, Super Bowl MVP caliber.
You are playing loose with words there Gipper. Super Bowl winning Qb is not a Super Bowl MVP caliBER Qb, at least not in my book.
Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Nick Foles...the list does not stop there. Those are SB winning Qbs but they are not SB calibre Qbs. I define the latter as franchise Qbs who can consistently give a team outstanding Qb play and winning football.
And is strange that if 'everyone' (really?) considered him a long-term starting Qb there has been few times where teams have decided to go with him (outside of injury to others), to lead their team into the season. No, in spite of your insistence I am going to stick to my guns on this one.
No, in spite of your insistence I am going to stick to my guns on this one.
You'll pay for that.. one way or another.
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