Higgins is back
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I'd be somewhat surprised if he's a starter this season unless there's a rash of injuries, but who are the candidates for the RG spot?
Wyatt Teller, who improved the spot quite a bit when he joined us. That said, Ellen Degeneres could have improved it.
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I know there has been complaints that OLinemen in the last decade have struggled coming into the NFL even more than usual, because of the offenses most colleges run.
A lot of college OLinemen aren't real hip to one-on-one straight up I'm going to pound your ass into the ground blocking.
Way too many expect Olineman to hold blocks forever.
the problem last year was just as much if not more to the fact that we had a brain dead play caller and a QB that held the ball too long.
Way too many expect Olineman to hold blocks forever.
the problem last year was just as much if not more to the fact that we had a brain dead play caller and a QB that held the ball too long.
Yeah, the OLine last season wasn't good, but it was nowhere as bad as Mayfield apologists tried to make it.
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Way too many expect Olineman to hold blocks forever.
the problem last year was just as much if not more to the fact that we had a brain dead play caller and a QB that held the ball too long.
Yeah, the OLine last season wasn't good, but it was nowhere as bad as Mayfield apologists tried to make it.
Yeah, the OLine last season wasn't good, but it was nowhere as bad as Mayfield apologists tried to make it.
But, the coaching, play calling WAS as bad as people tried to make it. OL play suffered equally as bad as Baker did.
If Stefanski et al are what we hope/expect him to be, you should see a vast improvement in Baker...and in the entire offense.
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Yeah, the OLine last season wasn't good, but it was nowhere as bad as Mayfield apologists tried to make it.
But, the coaching, play calling WAS as bad as people tried to make it. OL play suffered equally as bad as Baker did.
If Stefanski et al are what we hope/expect him to be, you should see a vast improvement in Baker...and in the entire offense.
But, the coaching, play calling WAS as bad as people tried to make it. OL play suffered equally as bad as Baker did.
If Stefanski et al are what we hope/expect him to be, you should see a vast improvement in Baker...and in the entire offense.
Yes, we are all very aware that you blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
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But, the coaching, play calling WAS as bad as people tried to make it. OL play suffered equally as bad as Baker did.
If Stefanski et al are what we hope/expect him to be, you should see a vast improvement in Baker...and in the entire offense.
Yes, we are all very aware that you blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
During the season, when most were blaming Freddie, I was not. I mean, the players have to execute the play(s). But after the season when it came out that after the first drive Freddie went way off script, I understood. He started calling plays that they hadn't been rehearsing...so they were rusty on those plays...and thus some of 'em failed miserably. Like, the other team wound up with the ball...or we had to punt.
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But, the coaching, play calling WAS as bad as people tried to make it. OL play suffered equally as bad as Baker did.
If Stefanski et al are what we hope/expect him to be, you should see a vast improvement in Baker...and in the entire offense.
Yes, we are all very aware that you blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
Yes, we are all very aware that you blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
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Yes, we are all very aware that you blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
Definitely A LOT of what ails them in 2020 was Freddie. But how about some blame on who made him HC? Was it Dorsey or Mr. Jimmy?
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Way too many expect Olineman to hold blocks forever.
the problem last year was just as much if not more to the fact that we had a brain dead play caller and a QB that held the ball too long.
Yeah, the OLine last season wasn't good, but it was nowhere as bad as Mayfield apologists tried to make it.
Yeah, the OLine last season wasn't good, but it was nowhere as bad as Mayfield apologists tried to make it.
It actually wasn't. As a matter of fact I saw many plays where the OL pass protected well and some where they really rush blocked in a solid manner.
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Yes, we are all very aware that you blame all that ailed the Browns in 2019 on Freddie Kitchens.
Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
So we all should be expecting a 10-6 or 11-5 season in 2020 since Freddie is gone, since that is what we all were calling for last season, until Freddie fucked it up, right?
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Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
So we all should be expecting a 10-6 or 11-5 season in 2020 since Freddie is gone, since that is what we all were calling for last season, until Freddie fucked it up, right?
So we all should be expecting a 10-6 or 11-5 season in 2020 since Freddie is gone, since that is what we all were calling for last season, until Freddie fucked it up, right?
1) Fortunately, the team is now over that big headedness.
2) Obviously, we are in super strange times right now. The teams that have new coaching regimes I feel could be exceptionally stunted in their growth this year. Unless this season is scrapped totally and we have ANOTHER draft before starting play in 2021. Then teams will have lots of new players and will have been away from the game long enough to level things out for us. (of course, I'm hoping we have football this year)
3) Actually, why shouldn't we expect to win a bunch of games? Our coaches & QB have a lot of talent around them on offense right now. If the QB and coaches are worth keeping, then we should win games. Even if Baker turns out to suck, Case K should be able to win games with our offensive guys.
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Not all, most though. And I am right to do so.
So we all should be expecting a 10-6 or 11-5 season in 2020 since Freddie is gone, since that is what we all were calling for last season, until Freddie fucked it up, right?
So we all should be expecting a 10-6 or 11-5 season in 2020 since Freddie is gone, since that is what we all were calling for last season, until Freddie fucked it up, right?
Based on the talent on this team, that does not sound unreasonable.
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So we all should be expecting a 10-6 or 11-5 season in 2020 since Freddie is gone, since that is what we all were calling for last season, until Freddie fucked it up, right?
Based on the talent on this team, that does not sound unreasonable.
Based on the talent on this team, that does not sound unreasonable.
So when they go 7-9. heads should roll, right?
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Probably the deepest most talented team we’ve had since we’ve been back.
2018 Playmaking Baker this is a 10 win team with some competitive close loses2019 Baker 7-8 Win team with some sound defeats.
We had some close loses last year before the wheels fell off on defense and that was a 6 win team.
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I found this nugget of info, Higgins is going to sport #82 this year and Hooper gets 81.
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Based on the talent on this team, that does not sound unreasonable.
So when they go 7-9. heads should roll, right?
So when they go 7-9. heads should roll, right?
I don't know, that is not my decision, nor yours.
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So when they go 7-9. heads should roll, right?
I don't know, that is not my decision, nor yours.
I don't know, that is not my decision, nor yours.
Really?
You and I aren't able to make decisions for a NFL franchise?
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I don't know, that is not my decision, nor yours.
Really?
You and I aren't able to make decisions for a NFL franchise?
Really?
You and I aren't able to make decisions for a NFL franchise?
Above my pay grade!
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I don't know, that is not my decision, nor yours.
Really?
You and I aren't able to make decisions for a NFL franchise?
Really?
You and I aren't able to make decisions for a NFL franchise?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
So there's that... 
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