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  • @tiamat63 said:

    You'll have to forgive me for not being a student of 50's football.  It's practically not even the same game and hasn't been as much for at least 30 years.   

    Don't worry. The closer the approach to 75 the less other people remember.  LOL!??

    Here is a radio broadcast of the end of the Texas - Ark game in 1969. Kern Tips was the radio guy doing the verbal broadcast for people who could not actually see the game you see here. And he is calling this through just eyes and binoculars since he cannot see the TV images you see. He was the radio voice of  SW Conference football from the 50-70s. You will hear the name Koy called as a Texas halfback on the play after this long pass. Ted Koy played TE for mainly the Bills.
     

    @texasag1969 said:

    Don't worry. The closer the approach to 75 the less other people remember.  LOL!??

    Here is a radio broadcast of the end of the Texas - Ark game in 1969. Kern Tips was the radio guy doing the verbal broadcast for people who could not actually see the game you see here. And he is calling this through just eyes and binoculars since he cannot see the TV images you see. He was the radio voice of  SW Conference football from the 50-70s. You will hear the name Koy called as a Texas halfback on the play after this long pass. Ted Koy played TE for mainly the Bills.
     

    FYI,  there was not a black kid on either team there in 1969.    Segregation in its last gasp in the south at that point. Even though  integration was forced on Alabama U when James Meredith was enrolled there a few years earlier, and even though a guy named OJ Simpson was tearing up college football,  those southern football teams would still not integrate.  But, when Alabama got pounded by USC....and particularly by Sam Bam Cunningham.....Bear Bryant finally determined that he had to go get him some black boys to play for him. 

  • @orion said:

    You can say that again!

    You didn't sound pessimistic to me.  -  I'm pessimistic.  That way I don't get so disappointed.  🙂

    I lived in Boston for 7 years- before the Sox won the W.S. for the first time in 1,000 years. I know that New England pessimism! ?

    @barry said:

    I lived in Boston for 7 years- before the Sox won the W.S. for the first time in 1,000 years. I know that New England pessimism! ?

    That is not "pessimism"  that is  whinyassbitchism.  Boston's basketball team had been winning a ton of titles;  their hockey team had won titles.  And by 2004 their football team had won a couple of titles.  And look since how many titles each of those Boston area teams have won. They are overprivileged little cuntholes is what they are,  not "pessimists".   

    Now, in Cleveland, we have pessimism.  The football team not appearing in a title game since 1964.  Then the  1997 and 2016 7th game extra inning losses in the World Series.    It has waned a bit since the Cavs won in 2016....but its still there big time, really.  When the Browns and Indians win...then maybe it will go away. 

  • @barry said:

    I lived in Boston for 7 years- before the Sox won the W.S. for the first time in 1,000 years. I know that New England pessimism! ?

    That is not "pessimism"  that is  whinyassbitchism.  Boston's basketball team had been winning a ton of titles;  their hockey team had won titles.  And by 2004 their football team had won a couple of titles.  And look since how many titles each of those Boston area teams have won. They are overprivileged little cuntholes is what they are,  not "pessimists".   

    Now, in Cleveland, we have pessimism.  The football team not appearing in a title game since 1964.  Then the  1997 and 2016 7th game extra inning losses in the World Series.    It has waned a bit since the Cavs won in 2016....but its still there big time, really.  When the Browns and Indians win...then maybe it will go away. 

    @the-gipper said:

    That is not "pessimism"  that is  whinyassbitchism.  Boston's basketball team had been winning a ton of titles;  their hockey team had won titles.  And by 2004 their football team had won a couple of titles.  And look since how many titles each of those Boston area teams have won. They are overprivileged little cuntholes is what they are,  not "pessimists".   

    Now, in Cleveland, we have pessimism.  The football team not appearing in a title game since 1964.  Then the  1997 and 2016 7th game extra inning losses in the World Series.    It has waned a bit since the Cavs won in 2016....but its still there big time, really.  When the Browns and Indians win...then maybe it will go away. 

    Ok. What you say is true. You still need to double your Valium dosage though ( j/k!)   ?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Don't worry. The closer the approach to 75 the less other people remember.  LOL!??

    Here is a radio broadcast of the end of the Texas - Ark game in 1969. Kern Tips was the radio guy doing the verbal broadcast for people who could not actually see the game you see here. And he is calling this through just eyes and binoculars since he cannot see the TV images you see. He was the radio voice of  SW Conference football from the 50-70s. You will hear the name Koy called as a Texas halfback on the play after this long pass. Ted Koy played TE for mainly the Bills.
     

    FYI,  there was not a black kid on either team there in 1969.    Segregation in its last gasp in the south at that point. Even though  integration was forced on Alabama U when James Meredith was enrolled there a few years earlier, and even though a guy named OJ Simpson was tearing up college football,  those southern football teams would still not integrate.  But, when Alabama got pounded by USC....and particularly by Sam Bam Cunningham.....Bear Bryant finally determined that he had to go get him some black boys to play for him. 

    @the-gipper said:

    FYI,  there was not a black kid on either team there in 1969.    Segregation in its last gasp in the south at that point. Even though  integration was forced on Alabama U when James Meredith was enrolled there a few years earlier, and even though a guy named OJ Simpson was tearing up college football,  those southern football teams would still not integrate.  But, when Alabama got pounded by USC....and particularly by Sam Bam Cunningham.....Bear Bryant finally determined that he had to go get him some black boys to play for him. 

    Hayden Fry of SMU was the icebreaker in the mid-60s for the SWC with Jerry Levias, born about 6 months before I was in our hometown of Beaumont, Texas. A second round pick of the old AFL by the Oilers. Now works for the Texans as a PR "Ambassador". There was another player at Baylor who came in the same year (1966) named John Westbrook. Levias was 1st team SWC all 3 eligible years and AA his senior year. Think speed and hands.

  • @the-gipper said:

    That is not "pessimism"  that is  whinyassbitchism.  Boston's basketball team had been winning a ton of titles;  their hockey team had won titles.  And by 2004 their football team had won a couple of titles.  And look since how many titles each of those Boston area teams have won. They are overprivileged little cuntholes is what they are,  not "pessimists".   

    Now, in Cleveland, we have pessimism.  The football team not appearing in a title game since 1964.  Then the  1997 and 2016 7th game extra inning losses in the World Series.    It has waned a bit since the Cavs won in 2016....but its still there big time, really.  When the Browns and Indians win...then maybe it will go away. 

    Ok. What you say is true. You still need to double your Valium dosage though ( j/k!)   ?

    @barry said:

    Ok. What you say is true. You still need to double your Valium dosage though ( j/k!)   ?

    That was my Valium dose 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Don't worry. The closer the approach to 75 the less other people remember.  LOL!??

    Here is a radio broadcast of the end of the Texas - Ark game in 1969. Kern Tips was the radio guy doing the verbal broadcast for people who could not actually see the game you see here. And he is calling this through just eyes and binoculars since he cannot see the TV images you see. He was the radio voice of  SW Conference football from the 50-70s. You will hear the name Koy called as a Texas halfback on the play after this long pass. Ted Koy played TE for mainly the Bills.
     

    FYI,  there was not a black kid on either team there in 1969.    Segregation in its last gasp in the south at that point. Even though  integration was forced on Alabama U when James Meredith was enrolled there a few years earlier, and even though a guy named OJ Simpson was tearing up college football,  those southern football teams would still not integrate.  But, when Alabama got pounded by USC....and particularly by Sam Bam Cunningham.....Bear Bryant finally determined that he had to go get him some black boys to play for him. 

    @the-gipper said:

    FYI,  there was not a black kid on either team there in 1969.    Segregation in its last gasp in the south at that point. Even though  integration was forced on Alabama U when James Meredith was enrolled there a few years earlier, and even though a guy named OJ Simpson was tearing up college football,  those southern football teams would still not integrate.  But, when Alabama got pounded by USC....and particularly by Sam Bam Cunningham.....Bear Bryant finally determined that he had to go get him some black boys to play for him. 

    There's a good documentary regarding the USC vs Alabama game, and it insinuates that Bear Bryant specifically scheduled that game knowing Alabama would lose so that their fans would see that if they want a great team, they needed to have black players. 

  • @barry said:

    Ok. What you say is true. You still need to double your Valium dosage though ( j/k!)   ?

    That was my Valium dose 

    @the-gipper said:

    That was my Valium dose 

    I thought that was your Pamprin dose.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    That was my Valium dose 

    I thought that was your Pamprin dose.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I thought that was your Pamprin dose.?

    I don't know that that is. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I thought that was your Pamprin dose.?

    I don't know that that is. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Midol then?  ?

    https://www.yourhealthremedy.com/health-tips/midol-vs-pamprin/

    Clearly you have more familiarity with this sort of thing than I do.  So maybe you should ask yourself these questions. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Midol then?  ?

    https://www.yourhealthremedy.com/health-tips/midol-vs-pamprin/

    Clearly you have more familiarity with this sort of thing than I do.  So maybe you should ask yourself these questions. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Clearly you have more familiarity with this sort of thing than I do.  So maybe you should ask yourself these questions.

    You must have visited the polyboard. Your MAGA style comebacks are getting poorer every time.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Clearly you have more familiarity with this sort of thing than I do.  So maybe you should ask yourself these questions.

    You must have visited the polyboard. Your MAGA style comebacks are getting poorer every time.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    You must have visited the polyboard. Your MAGA style comebacks are getting poorer every time.?

    What makes you think these are "comebacks"?  Since I have no clue what you have been talking about....as I said,  you are just talking to yourself.  Why don't you must move on to something that makes some sense. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You must have visited the polyboard. Your MAGA style comebacks are getting poorer every time.?

    What makes you think these are "comebacks"?  Since I have no clue what you have been talking about....as I said,  you are just talking to yourself.  Why don't you must move on to something that makes some sense. 

    @the-gipper said:

    ......... Since I have no clue what you have been talking about..

    LOL! I'm not dumb enough to think you are that ignorant. Nice try though.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    ......... Since I have no clue what you have been talking about..

    LOL! I'm not dumb enough to think you are that ignorant. Nice try though.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    LOL! I'm not dumb enough to think you are that ignorant. Nice try though.?

    You may not be dumb enough to believe that but you are dumb enough to ..........

  • @texasag1969 said:

    LOL! I'm not dumb enough to think you are that ignorant. Nice try though.?

    You may not be dumb enough to believe that but you are dumb enough to ..........

    @the-gipper said:

    You may not be dumb enough to believe that but you are dumb enough to ..........try to convince a Trumpette he's ? a huge fraud.

    FIFY and I admit it. Ain't no hope for 'em. ?‍♂️

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  • Mailbag yet again...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/05/hey-terry-the-next-josh-cribbs-for-cleveland-browns-unexpected-cuts-steelers-in-trouble.html

    The Vernon Q&A caught my eye. In particular this comment: " According to overthecap.com, Vernon’s $15 million contract is guaranteed on June 1. They can cut him before that and not pay him a dime.

    I went to OTC.com and did something I'd never done before, clicked on the drop menu (under the "Dead Money & Cap Savings" header) that defaults to "Cut (Pre-June 1)." Turns out there are 5 more options in the menu.

    I clicked on "Cut (Post-June 1)" and nothing changed... for Vernon anyway. Other players partial guarantees kicked in, but nada for Olivier. My guess is that his $15+mm would become guaranteed if he sustains a football injury. (Click on any other option and his salary figure turns "what-I-assume-is" red since turning green would make no sense 😉)

    So no rush to restructure or cut him... might even let him "test the market" (it worked with Higgie). But no way do I let him set foot in our facility unless we've already decided to keep him at any cost.

  • Mailbag yet again...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/05/hey-terry-the-next-josh-cribbs-for-cleveland-browns-unexpected-cuts-steelers-in-trouble.html

    The Vernon Q&A caught my eye. In particular this comment: " According to overthecap.com, Vernon’s $15 million contract is guaranteed on June 1. They can cut him before that and not pay him a dime.

    I went to OTC.com and did something I'd never done before, clicked on the drop menu (under the "Dead Money & Cap Savings" header) that defaults to "Cut (Pre-June 1)." Turns out there are 5 more options in the menu.

    I clicked on "Cut (Post-June 1)" and nothing changed... for Vernon anyway. Other players partial guarantees kicked in, but nada for Olivier. My guess is that his $15+mm would become guaranteed if he sustains a football injury. (Click on any other option and his salary figure turns "what-I-assume-is" red since turning green would make no sense 😉)

    So no rush to restructure or cut him... might even let him "test the market" (it worked with Higgie). But no way do I let him set foot in our facility unless we've already decided to keep him at any cost.

    @tour2ma said:

    Mailbag yet again...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/05/hey-terry-the-next-josh-cribbs-for-cleveland-browns-unexpected-cuts-steelers-in-trouble.html

    The Vernon Q&A caught my eye. In particular this comment: " According to overthecap.com, Vernon’s $15 million contract is guaranteed on June 1. They can cut him before that and not pay him a dime.

    I went to OTC.com and did something I'd never done before, clicked on the drop menu (under the "Dead Money & Cap Savings" header) that defaults to "Cut (Pre-June 1)." Turns out there are 5 more options in the menu.

    I clicked on "Cut (Post-June 1)" and nothing changed... for Vernon anyway. Other players partial guarantees kicked in, but nada for Olivier. My guess is that his $15+mm would become guaranteed if he sustains a football injury. (Click on any other option and his salary figure turns "what-I-assume-is" red since turning green would make no sense 😉)

    So no rush to restructure or cut him... might even let him "test the market" (it worked with Higgie). But no way do I let him set foot in our facility unless we've already decided to keep him at any cost.

    I'd say the biggest danger to a playoff team in Cleveland is Jimmy's inability to leave the staff in place for more than 15 minutes. Let alone five years.

    WSS

  • Yeah! a football conversation !!  https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/05/whats-the-deal-with-olivier-vernon-linebackers-whats-the-plan-terrys-talkin-cleveland-browns.html 

    good to know Clowney & Myles have same agent.. but i might be watching the numbers that Joey Bosa might see ?

    counting on our TE group blocking on a wide outside island? that*  may need another plan too?