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  • @texasag1969 said:

    And of course you know I already said to watch for the trumpy admin to start attacking the data, the data gatherers and the data analysts.

    See how easy that one was to call. Didn't even get past the weekend.

    Told ya! Trumpy will soon follow the leader since he just sits and watches Fox all day. As soon as Hannity pipes in the Triumvirate will be in full unison.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-dr-fauci-has-not-been-elected-to-anything

    @texasag1969 said:

    Told ya! Trumpy will soon follow the leader since he just sits and watches Fox all day. As soon as Hannity pipes in the Triumvirate will be in full unison.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-dr-fauci-has-not-been-elected-to-anything

    Now you're quoting yourself? ?

    Really?

  • @hoorta said:

    Okay.... really?  It cuts both ways guy.   Trump has declared VV day, victory over the virus, "it's going away". Damn- I didn't know he had a functional crystal ball. How is the N-95 mask, PPE, gloves, and sanitizer supply chain going? Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe you could answer that, instead of storming out of a press conference. I could (but I won't) be really nasty- just thinking out loud like reverse Trumpism, and say- man, I really hope a lot of those dumb ass Trump worshipers who believe every word of his take at face value- head out to the party zone without masks. Like their ever so brave hero. Will help thin the herd of the brain dead. A word to the covid freedom posters. The virus doesn't care if you have a gun or not. 🙂  

    BTW, and I won't wish it on him- but if DT follows the Boris path and comes down with covid, I'll let you meditate on the predictable hysterical response from some quarters. Maybe it might finally put some sense into the guy. 

    Yes really, so no, it really doesn't cut both ways. What Trumps says has  zero influence on protests around the country and the increasing skepticism over this virus.

    Do you honestly believe the positions Steve, Axe, Vam, myself and others take is because we listen to what fucking Trump says?  Trump never preached that we should not surrender our freedoms and liberties over a virus did he? We're saying that, the protesters are saying that.  Blindly obeying these democrat governors and buying into the media hysteria and lies   without questioning is exactly what well behaved communist conformists do. It's exactly what your side does. Your post still reeks of TDS. Grow up dude.

    @gorka said:

    Yes really, so no, it really doesn't cut both ways. What Trumps says has  zero influence on protests around the country and the increasing skepticism over this virus.

    Do you honestly believe the positions Steve, Axe, Vam, myself and others take is because we listen to what fucking Trump says?  Trump never preached that we should not surrender our freedoms and liberties over a virus did he? We're saying that, the protesters are saying that.  Blindly obeying these democrat governors and buying into the media hysteria and lies   without questioning is exactly what well behaved communist conformists do. It's exactly what your side does. Your post still reeks of TDS. Grow up dude.

    I'm not questioning their right to protest, if fact I sort of agree with them- pulling some arcane law out of a century old mothball stack to shut Ohio down. Yeah- there's been media hysteria- and if you want to call Left Wing propaganda I'm OK with that.

     image.jpeg.864c65d92dec6459a74d336df8888d62.jpegMake that Live Free, and Die- it's your life, and your choice.... 

    But be careful about my TDS, because I'm starting to worry about DT's sanity. MHO is he's starting to crack under pressure. Without anything to back up these statements with good evidence, First it was "chloroquine is going to be a game changer". Um, latest research says not. Then the OMG- lysol comment, fortunately no deaths were attributed to that one. Now it's- it's over Grover, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/anthony-fauci

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    And as predictable as the sun coming up who doesn't like the Doc's POV

  • @gorka said:

    Yes really, so no, it really doesn't cut both ways. What Trumps says has  zero influence on protests around the country and the increasing skepticism over this virus.

    Do you honestly believe the positions Steve, Axe, Vam, myself and others take is because we listen to what fucking Trump says?  Trump never preached that we should not surrender our freedoms and liberties over a virus did he? We're saying that, the protesters are saying that.  Blindly obeying these democrat governors and buying into the media hysteria and lies   without questioning is exactly what well behaved communist conformists do. It's exactly what your side does. Your post still reeks of TDS. Grow up dude.

    I'm not questioning their right to protest, if fact I sort of agree with them- pulling some arcane law out of a century old mothball stack to shut Ohio down. Yeah- there's been media hysteria- and if you want to call Left Wing propaganda I'm OK with that.

     image.jpeg.864c65d92dec6459a74d336df8888d62.jpegMake that Live Free, and Die- it's your life, and your choice.... 

    But be careful about my TDS, because I'm starting to worry about DT's sanity. MHO is he's starting to crack under pressure. Without anything to back up these statements with good evidence, First it was "chloroquine is going to be a game changer". Um, latest research says not. Then the OMG- lysol comment, fortunately no deaths were attributed to that one. Now it's- it's over Grover, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/anthony-fauci

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    And as predictable as the sun coming up who doesn't like the Doc's POV

    @hoorta said:

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    You could get hit on the noggin by an asteroid tomorrow too but then again, you might not.

    Those pesky words..

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And of course you know I already said to watch for the trumpy admin to start attacking the data, the data gatherers and the data analysts.

    See how easy that one was to call. Didn't even get past the weekend.

    Told ya! Trumpy will soon follow the leader since he just sits and watches Fox all day. As soon as Hannity pipes in the Triumvirate will be in full unison.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-dr-fauci-has-not-been-elected-to-anything

    @texasag1969 said:

    Told ya! Trumpy will soon follow the leader since he just sits and watches Fox all day. As soon as Hannity pipes in the Triumvirate will be in full unison.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-dr-fauci-has-not-been-elected-to-anything

    Gist of the Fox article. If Trump doesn't know anything about the future progress of the virus, you don't either Dr. Fauci..... Yeah, per Rand Paul- you've been wrong before, how do we know you're not wrong again? 

    @axe said:

    You could get hit on the noggin by an asteroid tomorrow too that might hurt.

    Those pesky words..

    And you could contract covid, and you might die. The odds of contracting this virus are orders of magnitude greater than anyone getting hit by an asteroid. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Told ya! Trumpy will soon follow the leader since he just sits and watches Fox all day. As soon as Hannity pipes in the Triumvirate will be in full unison.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-dr-fauci-has-not-been-elected-to-anything

    Gist of the Fox article. If Trump doesn't know anything about the future progress of the virus, you don't either Dr. Fauci..... Yeah, per Rand Paul- you've been wrong before, how do we know you're not wrong again? 

    @axe said:

    You could get hit on the noggin by an asteroid tomorrow too that might hurt.

    Those pesky words..

    And you could contract covid, and you might die. The odds of contracting this virus are orders of magnitude greater than anyone getting hit by an asteroid. 

    @hoorta said:

    And you could contract covid, and you might die. The odds of contracting this virus are orders of magnitude greater than anyone getting hit by an asteroid. 

     And you could have and an automobile accident and you might die..  I sincerely hope you don't...

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    @hoorta said:

    And you could contract covid, and you might die. The odds of contracting this virus are orders of magnitude greater than anyone getting hit by an asteroid. 

     And you could have and an automobile accident and you might die..  I sincerely hope you don't...

    @axe said:

     And you could have and an automobile accident and you might die..  I sincerely hope you don't...

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

  • @axe said:

     And you could have and an automobile accident and you might die..  I sincerely hope you don't...

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

    I'm on about my 4th or 5th recall.?

  • @axe said:

     And you could have and an automobile accident and you might die..  I sincerely hope you don't...

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

    Nah Steve- for the over 65 crowd,  pneumonia is #7, Bladder problems don't even rate- it's kidney failure at #9.  Though easy to see that any oldster who currently dies with breathing problems, it's corona for sure.  🙂  #1, as I suspected, is heart disease in all it's forms. 

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-among-adults-over-65-2967470

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Told ya! Trumpy will soon follow the leader since he just sits and watches Fox all day. As soon as Hannity pipes in the Triumvirate will be in full unison.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-dr-fauci-has-not-been-elected-to-anything

    Gist of the Fox article. If Trump doesn't know anything about the future progress of the virus, you don't either Dr. Fauci..... Yeah, per Rand Paul- you've been wrong before, how do we know you're not wrong again? 

    @axe said:

    You could get hit on the noggin by an asteroid tomorrow too that might hurt.

    Those pesky words..

    And you could contract covid, and you might die. The odds of contracting this virus are orders of magnitude greater than anyone getting hit by an asteroid. 

    @hoorta said:

    Gist of the Fox article. If Trump doesn't know anything about the future progress of the virus, you don't either Dr. Fauci..... Yeah, per Rand Paul- you've been wrong before, how do we know you're not wrong again? 

    And you could contract covid, and you might die. The odds of contracting this virus are orders of magnitude greater than anyone getting hit by an asteroid. 

    If you contracted COVID you most likely won't die.

  • @gorka said:

    Yes really, so no, it really doesn't cut both ways. What Trumps says has  zero influence on protests around the country and the increasing skepticism over this virus.

    Do you honestly believe the positions Steve, Axe, Vam, myself and others take is because we listen to what fucking Trump says?  Trump never preached that we should not surrender our freedoms and liberties over a virus did he? We're saying that, the protesters are saying that.  Blindly obeying these democrat governors and buying into the media hysteria and lies   without questioning is exactly what well behaved communist conformists do. It's exactly what your side does. Your post still reeks of TDS. Grow up dude.

    I'm not questioning their right to protest, if fact I sort of agree with them- pulling some arcane law out of a century old mothball stack to shut Ohio down. Yeah- there's been media hysteria- and if you want to call Left Wing propaganda I'm OK with that.

     image.jpeg.864c65d92dec6459a74d336df8888d62.jpegMake that Live Free, and Die- it's your life, and your choice.... 

    But be careful about my TDS, because I'm starting to worry about DT's sanity. MHO is he's starting to crack under pressure. Without anything to back up these statements with good evidence, First it was "chloroquine is going to be a game changer". Um, latest research says not. Then the OMG- lysol comment, fortunately no deaths were attributed to that one. Now it's- it's over Grover, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/anthony-fauci

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    And as predictable as the sun coming up who doesn't like the Doc's POV

    @hoorta said:

    I'm not questioning their right to protest, if fact I sort of agree with them- pulling some arcane law out of a century old mothball stack to shut Ohio down. Yeah- there's been media hysteria- and if you want to call Left Wing propaganda I'm OK with that.

     image.jpeg.864c65d92dec6459a74d336df8888d62.jpegMake that Live Free, and Die- it's your life, and your choice.... 

    But be careful about my TDS, because I'm starting to worry about DT's sanity. MHO is he's starting to crack under pressure. Without anything to back up these statements with good evidence, First it was "chloroquine is going to be a game changer". Um, latest research says not. Then the OMG- lysol comment, fortunately no deaths were attributed to that one. Now it's- it's over Grover, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/anthony-fauci

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    And as predictable as the sun coming up who doesn't like the Doc's POV

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.

    It is you that should be careful about your TDS. You can't get through a post without keeping it in check, including this one.

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS.

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August.

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

  • @westside-steve said:

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

    Nah Steve- for the over 65 crowd,  pneumonia is #7, Bladder problems don't even rate- it's kidney failure at #9.  Though easy to see that any oldster who currently dies with breathing problems, it's corona for sure.  🙂  #1, as I suspected, is heart disease in all it's forms. 

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-among-adults-over-65-2967470

    @hoorta said:

    Nah Steve- for the over 65 crowd,  pneumonia is #7, Bladder problems don't even rate- it's kidney failure at #9.  Though easy to see that any oldster who currently dies with breathing problems, it's corona for sure.  🙂  #1, as I suspected, is heart disease in all it's forms. 

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-among-adults-over-65-2967470

    That's correct I was more talking about the hospital acquired problems. Not stroke or heart attack or cancer. But yes.

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    People in their 80s are going to die from something. Whatever they go into the hospital for. It's usually pneumonia or a bladder infection. But that's about as long as the warranty is good for.

    WSS

    Nah Steve- for the over 65 crowd,  pneumonia is #7, Bladder problems don't even rate- it's kidney failure at #9.  Though easy to see that any oldster who currently dies with breathing problems, it's corona for sure.  🙂  #1, as I suspected, is heart disease in all it's forms. 

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-among-adults-over-65-2967470

    @hoorta said:

    Nah Steve- for the over 65 crowd,  pneumonia is #7, Bladder problems don't even rate- it's kidney failure at #9.  Though easy to see that any oldster who currently dies with breathing problems, it's corona for sure.  🙂  #1, as I suspected, is heart disease in all it's forms. 

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-among-adults-over-65-2967470

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/13-most-common-healthcare-associated-infections.html

  • @hoorta said:

    I'm not questioning their right to protest, if fact I sort of agree with them- pulling some arcane law out of a century old mothball stack to shut Ohio down. Yeah- there's been media hysteria- and if you want to call Left Wing propaganda I'm OK with that.

     image.jpeg.864c65d92dec6459a74d336df8888d62.jpegMake that Live Free, and Die- it's your life, and your choice.... 

    But be careful about my TDS, because I'm starting to worry about DT's sanity. MHO is he's starting to crack under pressure. Without anything to back up these statements with good evidence, First it was "chloroquine is going to be a game changer". Um, latest research says not. Then the OMG- lysol comment, fortunately no deaths were attributed to that one. Now it's- it's over Grover, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/anthony-fauci

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    And as predictable as the sun coming up who doesn't like the Doc's POV

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.

    It is you that should be careful about your TDS. You can't get through a post without keeping it in check, including this one.

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS.

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August.

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

    @gorka said:

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.

    It is you that should be careful about your TDS. You can't get through a post without keeping it in check, including this one.

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS.

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August.

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

    I don't get it. Surely Hoorta is just trolling to object to conservative posters. dh is lonely and lives? as a hateful outcast and desperately needs attention paid to him, woodpecker is too arrogant yet extremely ignorant about every single aspect of life, and Tex has two personalities -= one, the flip side, wants to control people by faking counters to any argument.

    it's what weak people do - they identify as dems because they don't like not controlling all narratives.

    of course, it's more proper for some to call themselves "independents" , but they really are on the hate/slur side.

    They use "RACIST", "HOMOPHOBE", and now, the new "XENOPHOBE".

    They are realityphobes.

    they are " pragmatophobes

    https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_phobia_for_fear_of_reality

  • Back to hospital-acquired infections if I'm not mistaken around a hundred thousand seniors die of those every year.

    WSS

  • @hoorta said:

    Nah Steve- for the over 65 crowd,  pneumonia is #7, Bladder problems don't even rate- it's kidney failure at #9.  Though easy to see that any oldster who currently dies with breathing problems, it's corona for sure.  🙂  #1, as I suspected, is heart disease in all it's forms. 

    https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-among-adults-over-65-2967470

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/13-most-common-healthcare-associated-infections.html

    @westside-steve said:

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/13-most-common-healthcare-associated-infections.html

    @westside-steve said:

    Back to hospital-acquired infections if I'm not mistaken around a hundred thousand seniors die of those every year.

    WSS

    Steve we were talking apples and oranges.  🙂  I mentioned primary causes of death- you're correct on the other count of what are called nosocomial (hospital acquired) diseases.  

  • @hoorta said:

    I'm not questioning their right to protest, if fact I sort of agree with them- pulling some arcane law out of a century old mothball stack to shut Ohio down. Yeah- there's been media hysteria- and if you want to call Left Wing propaganda I'm OK with that.

     image.jpeg.864c65d92dec6459a74d336df8888d62.jpegMake that Live Free, and Die- it's your life, and your choice.... 

    But be careful about my TDS, because I'm starting to worry about DT's sanity. MHO is he's starting to crack under pressure. Without anything to back up these statements with good evidence, First it was "chloroquine is going to be a game changer". Um, latest research says not. Then the OMG- lysol comment, fortunately no deaths were attributed to that one. Now it's- it's over Grover, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/anthony-fauci

    "Trump has found himself contradicted on the merits of reopening America from its coronavirus lockdown by Dr Anthony Fauci, his own top infectious diseases expert, who told the Senate via a video hearing on Tuesday that doing so prematurely could trigger “spikes that might turn into outbreaks” that prove difficult to control."

    And as predictable as the sun coming up who doesn't like the Doc's POV

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.

    It is you that should be careful about your TDS. You can't get through a post without keeping it in check, including this one.

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS.

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August.

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

    @gorka said:

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.    An absolutely false non sequitur of your logic. It's called if\then reasoning. If I agree with premise A, then it MUST follow that I also agree with premise B. Which isn't necessarily related. Maybe Trump told them to jump off a cliff while they're at it. 

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS. Minimize DT's bullshit at your own risk, it's what MAGAs do. That he would even suggest something like that with no proof was crazy. And one guy died. What adverse effects? It confirmed in a lot of conservatives minds that the guy has been drinking too much lysol, and was no longer fit to serve as President. All you need to do is get away from this MAGA cesspool, look at a few other talk forums, you just might understand that's becoming the case. His latest disappearing virus comment is just icing on the cake. 

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August. And one study was stopped because of adverse cardiac effects. 

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

    PS one of my friends who has to travel extensively world wide checking on their network of production facilities just mentioned on FaceBook the question he's often asked overseas is "how did you ever elect this guy?" The best he can say is I didn't vote for him. (may not be the truth, but a yes answer would be personally embarrassing) 

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/13-most-common-healthcare-associated-infections.html

    @westside-steve said:

    Back to hospital-acquired infections if I'm not mistaken around a hundred thousand seniors die of those every year.

    WSS

    Steve we were talking apples and oranges.  🙂  I mentioned primary causes of death- you're correct on the other count of what are called nosocomial (hospital acquired) diseases.  

    @hoorta said:

    Steve we were talking apples and oranges.  🙂  I mentioned primary causes of death- you're correct on the other count of what are called nosocomial (hospital acquired) diseases.  

    Not the first time a thread has gotten off track. That was just foremost of my mind because I was talking to one of my very best friends a lifelong RN served in some of the toughest Hospital situations available. Talking about people 80 years old and older. Not 65 and up. But yes hospital-acquired infections are a big deal. And somebody out there wants to make it look like there are more deaths caused by Corona. That's all.

    WSS

  • @gorka said:

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.    An absolutely false non sequitur of your logic. It's called if\then reasoning. If I agree with premise A, then it MUST follow that I also agree with premise B. Which isn't necessarily related. Maybe Trump told them to jump off a cliff while they're at it. 

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS. Minimize DT's bullshit at your own risk, it's what MAGAs do. That he would even suggest something like that with no proof was crazy. And one guy died. What adverse effects? It confirmed in a lot of conservatives minds that the guy has been drinking too much lysol, and was no longer fit to serve as President. All you need to do is get away from this MAGA cesspool, look at a few other talk forums, you just might understand that's becoming the case. His latest disappearing virus comment is just icing on the cake. 

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August. And one study was stopped because of adverse cardiac effects. 

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

    PS one of my friends who has to travel extensively world wide checking on their network of production facilities just mentioned on FaceBook the question he's often asked overseas is "how did you ever elect this guy?" The best he can say is I didn't vote for him. (may not be the truth, but a yes answer would be personally embarrassing) 

    @hoorta said:

    PS one of my friends who has to travel extensively world wide checking on their network of production facilities just mentioned on FaceBook the question he's often asked overseas is "how did you ever elect this guy?"   

    Trump is an embarrassment.  

  • @gorka said:

    Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.. So if you agree with protesters then you must agree with Trump.    An absolutely false non sequitur of your logic. It's called if\then reasoning. If I agree with premise A, then it MUST follow that I also agree with premise B. Which isn't necessarily related. Maybe Trump told them to jump off a cliff while they're at it. 

    Trump said this blah blah, Trump said that blah blah..What adverse effects did Trump create by saying Chloro was a game changer or his disinfectant comment? So for you and others to get your panties knotted up over virtually nothing is a symptom TDS. Minimize DT's bullshit at your own risk, it's what MAGAs do. That he would even suggest something like that with no proof was crazy. And one guy died. What adverse effects? It confirmed in a lot of conservatives minds that the guy has been drinking too much lysol, and was no longer fit to serve as President. All you need to do is get away from this MAGA cesspool, look at a few other talk forums, you just might understand that's becoming the case. His latest disappearing virus comment is just icing on the cake. 

    Yes, its been established that Chloro doesn't work by itself, but the concoction that Dr. Zelinsky and others used with success was a cocktail Chloro and Zinc and other shit. The recent Chloro trials from my understanding had only included Chloro.

    The testing for this Chloro cocktail is in process. It began this month and to be completed by August. And one study was stopped because of adverse cardiac effects. 

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084

    PS one of my friends who has to travel extensively world wide checking on their network of production facilities just mentioned on FaceBook the question he's often asked overseas is "how did you ever elect this guy?" The best he can say is I didn't vote for him. (may not be the truth, but a yes answer would be personally embarrassing) 

    @hoorta said:

    PS one of my friends who has to travel extensively world wide checking on their network of production facilities just mentioned on FaceBook the question he's often asked overseas is "how did you ever elect this guy?" The best he can say is I didn't vote for him. (may not be the truth, but a yes answer would be personally embarrassing) 

    Imagine how bad the other parties had to be then...talk about embarrassing!