Saints release Warford
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No, I think my analogy is better. A RG and a CB still play in the same field, as does a litigation attorney and a probate attorney. Your analogy would be more like a football player to a trainer.
Incorrect. The original context of this was just plug and play a Pro Bowl G. They are in the same field, yet require very different skill sets.
Again, I know little about the different types of lawyers, but just saying that some top criminal lawyers also do divorce law in Ohio is besides the point. That is just taking out a small section. Sure it can happen, just as there are players you can place in any kind of system, but to rely on that as the standard is incorrect.
But good luck with that plastic surgeon when you have a serious medical issue. And when that fails and you get revenge for the botched surgery, good luck with that divorce lawyer defending you for capital crimes. But we all know at your sentencing you will say "f you guys, I was right."
Good day sir
Incorrect. The original context of this was just plug and play a Pro Bowl G. They are in the same field, yet require very different skill sets.
Again, I know little about the different types of lawyers, but just saying that some top criminal lawyers also do divorce law in Ohio is besides the point. That is just taking out a small section. Sure it can happen, just as there are players you can place in any kind of system, but to rely on that as the standard is incorrect.
But good luck with that plastic surgeon when you have a serious medical issue. And when that fails and you get revenge for the botched surgery, good luck with that divorce lawyer defending you for capital crimes. But we all know at your sentencing you will say "f you guys, I was right."
Good day sir
Well, you are kind of all over the place here. Obviously, if you have a plug and play Pro Bowl OG with Warford we wouldn't be having a discussion, except to ask.."how much" . But, per you, perhaps, or at least per others, we have opinions that say that he "may not" fit whatever blocking system the Browns intend to employ. Well....the first observation here is that I am not going to take your word on that, or anyone else's here. That decision is above all your pay grades (and mine). I will see what the Browns and their scouting/coaching departments say/think about that. Even if he were a perfect fit, that would not mean they would go after him because of the money issues. Who knows.
But, you analogy was this: You are a person charged with a criminal offense. Naturally, you want an experienced criminal defense attorney handling your case. But I say: If I can't have a criminal defense attorney, I want an attorney with litigation experience; or alternatively, an attorney with legal experience. You seem to be saying that you would rather have the court stenographer handling your case than the divorce or probate attorney.
So, good luck with that. I will quote a Westside Steve/Easy Street lyric: "I will send you a file in a cake".
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Maybe but gotta give Gunz points for trying an approach I've never seen tried before...
You mean talking to himself?
Well player, sir...
While I did not read Gunz post (would have fallen asleep).....on this point.....You might be surprised to know that, at least in the area I practice in (Akron...and some in Cleveland) , often times the top criminal lawyers also do a lot of divorce work. They are both litigative skills and those skills can adapt to both areas of law practice.
Now...if he had known much about the practice of law....he would have said "take a top Probate Lawyer and put him into a murder trial"...well, then, there you may have had something. But that would be more analogous to taking a cornerback and asking him to play Right Guard, and you would never try that.
If resources weren't a question - I'm not wanting the guy/gal doing my divorce also repping me in Murder Trial. Just saying.
And the Browns have some resources at this point.
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Incorrect. The original context of this was just plug and play a Pro Bowl G. They are in the same field, yet require very different skill sets.
Again, I know little about the different types of lawyers, but just saying that some top criminal lawyers also do divorce law in Ohio is besides the point. That is just taking out a small section. Sure it can happen, just as there are players you can place in any kind of system, but to rely on that as the standard is incorrect.
But good luck with that plastic surgeon when you have a serious medical issue. And when that fails and you get revenge for the botched surgery, good luck with that divorce lawyer defending you for capital crimes. But we all know at your sentencing you will say "f you guys, I was right."
Good day sir
Well, you are kind of all over the place here. Obviously, if you have a plug and play Pro Bowl OG with Warford we wouldn't be having a discussion, except to ask.."how much" . But, per you, perhaps, or at least per others, we have opinions that say that he "may not" fit whatever blocking system the Browns intend to employ. Well....the first observation here is that I am not going to take your word on that, or anyone else's here. That decision is above all your pay grades (and mine). I will see what the Browns and their scouting/coaching departments say/think about that. Even if he were a perfect fit, that would not mean they would go after him because of the money issues. Who knows.
But, you analogy was this: You are a person charged with a criminal offense. Naturally, you want an experienced criminal defense attorney handling your case. But I say: If I can't have a criminal defense attorney, I want an attorney with litigation experience; or alternatively, an attorney with legal experience. You seem to be saying that you would rather have the court stenographer handling your case than the divorce or probate attorney.
So, good luck with that. I will quote a Westside Steve/Easy Street lyric: "I will send you a file in a cake".
Well, you are kind of all over the place here. Obviously, if you have a plug and play Pro Bowl OG with Warford we wouldn't be having a discussion, except to ask.."how much" . But, per you, perhaps, or at least per others, we have opinions that say that he "may not" fit whatever blocking system the Browns intend to employ. Well....the first observation here is that I am not going to take your word on that, or anyone else's here. That decision is above all your pay grades (and mine). I will see what the Browns and their scouting/coaching departments say/think about that. Even if he were a perfect fit, that would not mean they would go after him because of the money issues. Who knows.
But, you analogy was this: You are a person charged with a criminal offense. Naturally, you want an experienced criminal defense attorney handling your case. But I say: If I can't have a criminal defense attorney, I want an attorney with litigation experience; or alternatively, an attorney with legal experience. You seem to be saying that you would rather have the court stenographer handling your case than the divorce or probate attorney.
So, good luck with that. I will quote a Westside Steve/Easy Street lyric: "I will send you a file in a cake".
No, you obviously read something the way you go about everything else on here, through a predetermined lens.
Not once did I say anything close to I would rather have a stenographer, etc. Show where anything close to that is associated with my name?
What I said is that its more applicable comparing a stenographer/lawyer with your OG/CB comparison (same general field; law and football) as compared to 2 different types of lawyers (I would say that is more comparing OG vs OT for instance.
Its amazing that others understood the point, but whatever. And while everyone can see that your football knowledge "skill set" would be relegated to history and mine the actual game, you trying to impune me by linking me or others as telling you to trust us (much less over ones that is their job) is asinine.
But what is really telling is that you posted that you didnt read my reply, yet you knew what I wrote. I wonder how that works??? Sure seems like you just wanted to point out you didnt read it for some strange Gipper reason?
And why no retort to NFL/XFL? How is Jets playing in AFL and Colts in NFL akin to AFC and NFC? Because you want it to be? Because you know what the key difference is? They played in DIFFERENT leagues, no common opponents. They were the same NFL champion in 1968 season as the Packers were in 1965 season
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Well, you are kind of all over the place here. Obviously, if you have a plug and play Pro Bowl OG with Warford we wouldn't be having a discussion, except to ask.."how much" . But, per you, perhaps, or at least per others, we have opinions that say that he "may not" fit whatever blocking system the Browns intend to employ. Well....the first observation here is that I am not going to take your word on that, or anyone else's here. That decision is above all your pay grades (and mine). I will see what the Browns and their scouting/coaching departments say/think about that. Even if he were a perfect fit, that would not mean they would go after him because of the money issues. Who knows.
But, you analogy was this: You are a person charged with a criminal offense. Naturally, you want an experienced criminal defense attorney handling your case. But I say: If I can't have a criminal defense attorney, I want an attorney with litigation experience; or alternatively, an attorney with legal experience. You seem to be saying that you would rather have the court stenographer handling your case than the divorce or probate attorney.
So, good luck with that. I will quote a Westside Steve/Easy Street lyric: "I will send you a file in a cake".
No, you obviously read something the way you go about everything else on here, through a predetermined lens.
Not once did I say anything close to I would rather have a stenographer, etc. Show where anything close to that is associated with my name?
What I said is that its more applicable comparing a stenographer/lawyer with your OG/CB comparison (same general field; law and football) as compared to 2 different types of lawyers (I would say that is more comparing OG vs OT for instance.
Its amazing that others understood the point, but whatever. And while everyone can see that your football knowledge "skill set" would be relegated to history and mine the actual game, you trying to impune me by linking me or others as telling you to trust us (much less over ones that is their job) is asinine.
But what is really telling is that you posted that you didnt read my reply, yet you knew what I wrote. I wonder how that works??? Sure seems like you just wanted to point out you didnt read it for some strange Gipper reason?
And why no retort to NFL/XFL? How is Jets playing in AFL and Colts in NFL akin to AFC and NFC? Because you want it to be? Because you know what the key difference is? They played in DIFFERENT leagues, no common opponents. They were the same NFL champion in 1968 season as the Packers were in 1965 season
No, you obviously read something the way you go about everything else on here, through a predetermined lens.
Not once did I say anything close to I would rather have a stenographer, etc. Show where anything close to that is associated with my name?
What I said is that its more applicable comparing a stenographer/lawyer with your OG/CB comparison (same general field; law and football) as compared to 2 different types of lawyers (I would say that is more comparing OG vs OT for instance.
And I say that the better analogy is comparing a criminal lawyer with a probate lawyer is more like comparing an OG to a CB. They are in the same football field: football player/lawyer. You saying that a criminal lawyer compared to a stenographer is the same analogy...it is not. Both the probate lawyer and the criminal lawyer have law degrees and practice law.....both the OG and the CB have football degrees and practice football. The stenographer/trainer do not have law/football degrees. That is the more analogous example.
Its amazing that others understood the point, but whatever.
What do you mean "others"? There ain't nobody else here talking about this. Just you and me bub.
nd while everyone can see that your football knowledge "skill set" would be relegated to history and mine the actual game, you trying to impune me by linking me or others as telling you to trust us (much less over ones that is their job) is asinine.
Not real sure this is comprehensible....so I will just repeat what I said above: I will trust the people whose job it is to perform the duties of talent selection for the Browns... Take what you will of that.
But what is really telling is that you posted that you didnt read my reply, yet you knew what I wrote. I wonder how that works??? Sure seems like you just wanted to point out you didnt read it for some strange Gipper reason?
I didn't read a couple of your replies....and the reason was not something esoteric at all.....it was mere boredom. I only read that section where you were making the legal analogies, as it was quoted by someone else.
And why no retort to NFL/XFL? How is Jets playing in AFL and Colts in NFL akin to AFC and NFC? Because you want it to be? Because you know what the key difference is? They played in DIFFERENT leagues, no common opponents. They were the same NFL champion in 1968 season as the Packers were in 1965 season.
By that reasoning then, the 2019 San Francisco 49ers won the championship in 2019, after all, if you are going to award a championship to the 1968 Colts, then the 49ers should be awarded one too. The fact of losing the Super Bowl clearly being irrelevant to you.
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No, you obviously read something the way you go about everything else on here, through a predetermined lens.
Not once did I say anything close to I would rather have a stenographer, etc. Show where anything close to that is associated with my name?
What I said is that its more applicable comparing a stenographer/lawyer with your OG/CB comparison (same general field; law and football) as compared to 2 different types of lawyers (I would say that is more comparing OG vs OT for instance.
And I say that the better analogy is comparing a criminal lawyer with a probate lawyer is more like comparing an OG to a CB. They are in the same football field: football player/lawyer. You saying that a criminal lawyer compared to a stenographer is the same analogy...it is not. Both the probate lawyer and the criminal lawyer have law degrees and practice law.....both the OG and the CB have football degrees and practice football. The stenographer/trainer do not have law/football degrees. That is the more analogous example.
Its amazing that others understood the point, but whatever.
What do you mean "others"? There ain't nobody else here talking about this. Just you and me bub.
nd while everyone can see that your football knowledge "skill set" would be relegated to history and mine the actual game, you trying to impune me by linking me or others as telling you to trust us (much less over ones that is their job) is asinine.
Not real sure this is comprehensible....so I will just repeat what I said above: I will trust the people whose job it is to perform the duties of talent selection for the Browns... Take what you will of that.
But what is really telling is that you posted that you didnt read my reply, yet you knew what I wrote. I wonder how that works??? Sure seems like you just wanted to point out you didnt read it for some strange Gipper reason?
I didn't read a couple of your replies....and the reason was not something esoteric at all.....it was mere boredom. I only read that section where you were making the legal analogies, as it was quoted by someone else.
And why no retort to NFL/XFL? How is Jets playing in AFL and Colts in NFL akin to AFC and NFC? Because you want it to be? Because you know what the key difference is? They played in DIFFERENT leagues, no common opponents. They were the same NFL champion in 1968 season as the Packers were in 1965 season.
By that reasoning then, the 2019 San Francisco 49ers won the championship in 2019, after all, if you are going to award a championship to the 1968 Colts, then the 49ers should be awarded one too. The fact of losing the Super Bowl clearly being irrelevant to you.
No that isn't true at all bub.
The 2019 49ers were members of the NFL as were the Chiefs. The 68 Colts were members of the NFL, while the Jets were in fact a member of the AFL. AGAIN, Nobody said they won the SB, were the only champion or anything like that, but they won their LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP. They most certainly WITHOUT question the 1968 NFL Champions, do you dispute that?
As for the analogies, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I was in no way trying to suggest that they were the exact same (lawyer and stenographer), was just merely pointing out that them being associated both with law/court/etc is the same as totally different players (positionally) being compared. I can't remember who, but someone commented on it (maybe someone that has you blocked), so yes someone else did und the point I was trying to make.
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am not seeing a zone blocking lineman here..but he won't stay on the street to long either
Ding ding ding...
OGs are unlike OTs whose PassPro skill correlates well with WZS aptitude.
Warford looks to be Man/Gap scheme guy. Even his old Combine results scream "put him in a phone booth".
Ding ding ding...
OGs are unlike OTs whose PassPro skill correlates well with WZS aptitude.
Warford looks to be Man/Gap scheme guy. Even his old Combine results scream "put him in a phone booth".
I agree, he is a big slow dude. And....the Saints released him for a reason, and I don't think it was money motivated. They drafted Ruiz to replace him.
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No that isn't true at all bub.
The 2019 49ers were members of the NFL as were the Chiefs. The 68 Colts were members of the NFL, while the Jets were in fact a member of the AFL. AGAIN, Nobody said they won the SB, were the only champion or anything like that, but they won their LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP. They most certainly WITHOUT question the 1968 NFL Champions, do you dispute that?
As for the analogies, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I was in no way trying to suggest that they were the exact same (lawyer and stenographer), was just merely pointing out that them being associated both with law/court/etc is the same as totally different players (positionally) being compared. I can't remember who, but someone commented on it (maybe someone that has you blocked), so yes someone else did und the point I was trying to make.
No that isn't true at all bub.
The 2019 49ers were members of the NFL as were the Chiefs. The 68 Colts were members of the NFL, while the Jets were in fact a member of the AFL. AGAIN, Nobody said they won the SB, were the only champion or anything like that, but they won their LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP. They most certainly WITHOUT question the 1968 NFL Champions, do you dispute that?
They LOST the Super Bowl. Do you dispute that? For those 4 years winning the AFL or NFL title are what is now tantamount to winning the AFC or NFC....that is how the leagues became newly structured in 1966. They LOST the overall championship game. (and you know who disputed it: members of the Colts would have disputed it.
As for the analogies, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I was in no way trying to suggest that they were the exact same (lawyer and stenographer), was just merely pointing out that them being associated both with law/court/etc is the same as totally different players (positionally) being compared. I can't remember who, but someone commented on it (maybe someone that has you blocked), so yes someone else did und the point I was trying to make.
And I am just saying that stenographers are support staff, just as football players have support staff. Football players and lawyers get in the game....support staff does not.
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Interesting article concerning Clowney, Warford and also the Browns. 5 moves that could impact the NFL 2020 season (5 pages to view).
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/05/nfl-offseason-moves-trades-jadeveon-clowney-cam-newton
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We gotta have at least one camp battle to look forward to on offense.
Team Forbes!!
You got Forbes, Hubbard and Teller. Pro Bowlers no. All Capable probably. Great depth here
You got Forbes, Hubbard and Teller. Pro Bowlers no. All Capable probably. Great depth here
I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season. I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position. Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.
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No that isn't true at all bub.
The 2019 49ers were members of the NFL as were the Chiefs. The 68 Colts were members of the NFL, while the Jets were in fact a member of the AFL. AGAIN, Nobody said they won the SB, were the only champion or anything like that, but they won their LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP. They most certainly WITHOUT question the 1968 NFL Champions, do you dispute that?
They LOST the Super Bowl. Do you dispute that? For those 4 years winning the AFL or NFL title are what is now tantamount to winning the AFC or NFC....that is how the leagues became newly structured in 1966. They LOST the overall championship game. (and you know who disputed it: members of the Colts would have disputed it.
As for the analogies, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I was in no way trying to suggest that they were the exact same (lawyer and stenographer), was just merely pointing out that them being associated both with law/court/etc is the same as totally different players (positionally) being compared. I can't remember who, but someone commented on it (maybe someone that has you blocked), so yes someone else did und the point I was trying to make.
And I am just saying that stenographers are support staff, just as football players have support staff. Football players and lawyers get in the game....support staff does not.
You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.
But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.
I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL.
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You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.
But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.
I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL.
You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.
The point being....they lost the Super Bowl.
But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.
Yea, there was another game afterward. The Super Bowl. Which they lost.
I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL.
So, by that calculation then, when the AL and NL were never playing each other, the loser of the World Series also won the Championship.
So I guess that means the 1954, 1995, 1997, 2016 Indians really were the Champions. Sure as fucking hell didn't feel like it. All these years, all that angst...for nothing? Because the Indians really were champions! Who knew?

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You got Forbes, Hubbard and Teller. Pro Bowlers no. All Capable probably. Great depth here
I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season. I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position. Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.
I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season. I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position. Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.
He’s a decent depth guy too. if we make no other moves we really have decent guys that will be active any given Sunday.
If there is any concern at all with the Oline it shouldn’t be a guard it should be moving a “good” RT tackle prospect (we can all argue whether he’s elite) to Left Tackle and essentially naming him the starter his first year in the league. He’s going to go through growing pains maybe cost a game or two.
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Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
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You got Forbes, Hubbard and Teller. Pro Bowlers no. All Capable probably. Great depth here
I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season. I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position. Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.
I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season. I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position. Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.
Undrafted and sat out last season? PFR's page for him is blank.

ProDay numbers don't scream "athletic", but could be he did not attend any camps to train for the events.

But WTH... take a look. If any promise, then there's always the PS to stash im for development.
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Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
And unlike the dance it doesn't take two to tangle.
See what I did there?

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Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
So? you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?
Besides...it is an actual pretty simple question: Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship?
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Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
And unlike the dance it doesn't take two to tangle.
See what I did there?

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Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...
"Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard."
So? you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?
Besides...it is an actual pretty simple question: Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship?
So? you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?
Besides...it is an actual pretty simple question: Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship?
And the gold medal winner is back...
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So? you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?
Besides...it is an actual pretty simple question: Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship?
And the gold medal winner is back...
And the gold medal winner is back...
Well, a gold medal winner won the championship of that sport/event. Unlike the loser of the Super Bowl.
I notice you continually dodge the question: Do you think the loser of the Super Bowl is the Champion?
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I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season. I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position. Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.
Undrafted and sat out last season? PFR's page for him is blank.

ProDay numbers don't scream "athletic", but could be he did not attend any camps to train for the events.

But WTH... take a look. If any promise, then there's always the PS to stash im for development.
Undrafted and sat out last season? PFR's page for him is blank.
ProDay numbers don't scream "athletic", but could be he did not attend any camps to train for the events.
But WTH... take a look. If any promise, then there's always the PS to stash im for development.
From the browns website. Apparently he was on our practice squad last season
"Originally signed by the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent on April 27, 2019…Waived by the Texans on August 30, 2019…Signed to the Cleveland Browns practice squad as a free agent on September 18, 2019."
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