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  • @gunz41 said:

    No that isn't true at all bub.

    The 2019 49ers were members of the NFL as were the Chiefs. The 68 Colts were members of the NFL, while the Jets were in fact a member of the AFL. AGAIN, Nobody said they won the SB, were the only champion or anything like that, but they won their LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP. They most certainly WITHOUT question the 1968 NFL Champions, do you dispute that?

    They LOST the Super Bowl.  Do you dispute that?  For those 4 years winning the AFL or NFL title are what is now tantamount to winning the AFC or NFC....that is how the leagues became newly structured in 1966.  They LOST the overall championship game.  (and you know who disputed it:  members of the Colts would have disputed it.

    As for the analogies, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I was in no way trying to suggest that they were the exact same (lawyer and stenographer), was just merely pointing out that them being associated both with law/court/etc is the same as totally different players (positionally) being compared. I can't remember who, but someone commented on it (maybe someone that has you blocked), so yes someone else did und the point I was trying to make. 

    And I am just saying that  stenographers are support staff,  just as football players have support staff.  Football players and lawyers get in the game....support staff does not. 

    @the-gipper said:

    You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.

    But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.

    I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.

    But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.

    I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL. 

    @gunz41 said:

    You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.

    The point being....they lost the Super Bowl. 

    But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.

    Yea, there was another game afterward.  The Super Bowl.  Which they lost. 

    I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL. 

    So, by that calculation then,   when the AL and NL  were never playing each other,  the loser of the World Series also won the Championship. 

    So I guess that means the  1954, 1995, 1997, 2016 Indians really were the Champions.  Sure as fucking hell didn't feel like it.  All these years, all that angst...for nothing?   Because the Indians really were champions!  Who knew?

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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    You got Forbes, Hubbard and Teller.  Pro Bowlers no.  All Capable probably.  Great depth here 

    I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season.  I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position.  Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.

    @bjh2130 said:

    I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season.  I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position.  Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.

    He’s a decent depth guy too.  if we make no other moves we really have decent guys that will be active any given Sunday.

    If there is any concern at all with the Oline it shouldn’t be a guard it should be moving a “good” RT tackle prospect (we can all argue whether he’s elite) to Left Tackle and essentially naming him the starter his first year in the league.  He’s going to go through growing pains maybe cost a game or two.  
     

  • Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    You got Forbes, Hubbard and Teller.  Pro Bowlers no.  All Capable probably.  Great depth here 

    I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season.  I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position.  Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.

    @bjh2130 said:

    I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season.  I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position.  Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.

    Undrafted and sat out last season? PFR's page for him is blank.

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    ProDay numbers don't scream "athletic", but could be he did not attend any camps to train for the events.

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    But WTH... take a look. If any promise, then there's always the PS to stash im for development.

  • Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

    And unlike the dance it doesn't take two to tangle.

    See what I did there? 😉

  • Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

    So?  you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?

    Besides...it is an actual pretty simple  question:   Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

    And unlike the dance it doesn't take two to tangle.

    See what I did there? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    And unlike the dance it doesn't take two to tangle.

    See what I did there? 😉

    Yea, you proved that you are an ignorant coward. 

    But that is nothing new. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Every thread that devolves into Gipper fighting with someone over some stupid triviality reminds me of the old unbelievably un-PC joke...

    "Fighting on the Internet is like participating in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard." 

    So?  you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?

    Besides...it is an actual pretty simple  question:   Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship? 

    @the-gipper said:

    So?  you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?

    Besides...it is an actual pretty simple  question:   Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship? 

    And the gold medal winner is back... 

  • @the-gipper said:

    So?  you decided to join in? When did you change your name to Retard?

    Besides...it is an actual pretty simple  question:   Do you also of the believe that a team that has lost the Super Bowl has won the Championship? 

    And the gold medal winner is back... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And the gold medal winner is back... 

    Well,   a gold medal winner won the championship of that sport/event.   Unlike the loser of the Super Bowl.  

    I notice you continually dodge the question:   Do you think the loser of the Super Bowl is the Champion? 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    I was looking at the roster yesterday and noticed that we also have former buckeye Malcolm Pridgeon. He was a very good guard for the buckeyes in 2018. He came in as a juco and at tackle. He made the switch to guard prior to the 2018 season.  I'm not saying he's going to be great but he has talent and is fairly new to the position.  Only been playing it since 2017 off season. He could be an interesting look at rg. Hopefully Bill Callahan can mold him into the type of lineman he wants.

    Undrafted and sat out last season? PFR's page for him is blank.

    image.png.de1ce50ed464712ebcd8bcb01d0c73a5.png

    ProDay numbers don't scream "athletic", but could be he did not attend any camps to train for the events.

    image.png.0396914e66cea8846496880f3e31ec76.png

    But WTH... take a look. If any promise, then there's always the PS to stash im for development.

    @tour2ma said:

    Undrafted and sat out last season? PFR's page for him is blank.

    image.png.de1ce50ed464712ebcd8bcb01d0c73a5.png

    ProDay numbers don't scream "athletic", but could be he did not attend any camps to train for the events.

    image.png.0396914e66cea8846496880f3e31ec76.png

    But WTH... take a look. If any promise, then there's always the PS to stash im for development.

    From the browns website.  Apparently he was on our practice squad last season

    "Originally signed by the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent on April 27, 2019…Waived by the Texans on August 30, 2019…Signed to the Cleveland Browns practice squad as a free agent on September 18, 2019."

  • Well if he's stuck this long then maybe...

  • AS of today pridgeon is listed as active browns roster member so.. it's probably the most high-paying job out there for him!

  • Question:  What happens to practice squad players after the season ends?  -  Do they automatically get assigned to your roster until new season roster cuts?  Do they all automatically become free agents?  Do they line them up and shoot them?  what?

  • By the Way,    Warford's  mother was Samoan........so if the Browns sign him, shouldn't we get one of those extra draft picks, like suggested in that other thread?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Warford

  • @gunz41 said:

    You know that myself or anyone else ever said they didnt lose the SB. You are trying to bring things into the conversation to beat home your point.

    The point being....they lost the Super Bowl. 

    But no sir, it is not the same as AFC/NFC now. The only thing that is comparable is that there is another game afterwards. I venture to guess that you know all of this, yet since you originally made a statement you will say things just to make yourself feel correct.

    Yea, there was another game afterward.  The Super Bowl.  Which they lost. 

    I don't know what you are disputing. The AFL and NFL were separate leagues. Meaning they didnt play each other during the regular season or playoffs. Their was an AFL CHAMPION and a NFL CHAMPION. Then both of those LEAGUE CHAMPIONS played each other. Last year, the Chiefs and 49ers were conference champions within the NFL. 

    So, by that calculation then,   when the AL and NL  were never playing each other,  the loser of the World Series also won the Championship. 

    So I guess that means the  1954, 1995, 1997, 2016 Indians really were the Champions.  Sure as fucking hell didn't feel like it.  All these years, all that angst...for nothing?   Because the Indians really were champions!  Who knew?

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    @the-gipper said:

    You aren't getting it...

    The AL and NL are in the SAME LEAGUE. 

    But go ahead and put your reputation where your mouth is.

    Go back over ANY of this and quote ONE time that I said anything about the Colts won the whole thing or THE football championship.

    You just can't accept the fact that you were wrong. 1st by saying that NOBODY considered the Colts to be champions in 1968. When that is proven to be incorrect, you change your argument. 

    I have continually said that the Colts did NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL. THEY DIDNT WIN THEIR LAST GAME OF THE SEASON. You see simple minded Gipper, BOTH things can be true. They were and will always be the 1968 NFL CHAMPIONS. THEY WON THE NFL. THE JETS WON THE AFL (TWO DIFFERENT LEAGUES DUMMY.) THEN THOSE TWO CHAMPIONS PLAYED EACH OTHER. 

    Again, for the last time, if this pandemic hadn't occurred, and the Chiefs (the NFL Champion) had the opportunity to play the The Houston Roughnecks (assuming they won the XFL), the loser of that game would STILL BE their associated LEAGUE CHAMPION. 

    But to the point, you never said a thing about the 1965 Green Bay Packers/Buffalo Bills. That doesn't fit your agenda. But BOTH of those were champions. Or heck, lets use 1964. The Browns won the NFL AND The Buffalo Bills won the AFL. 

    If you can't refute any of that, then just STFU. I have not once said anything incorrect in this discussion. I have never used anything but facts and never used those facts to bend the results to match my opinion.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You aren't getting it...

    The AL and NL are in the SAME LEAGUE. 

    But go ahead and put your reputation where your mouth is.

    Go back over ANY of this and quote ONE time that I said anything about the Colts won the whole thing or THE football championship.

    You just can't accept the fact that you were wrong. 1st by saying that NOBODY considered the Colts to be champions in 1968. When that is proven to be incorrect, you change your argument. 

    I have continually said that the Colts did NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL. THEY DIDNT WIN THEIR LAST GAME OF THE SEASON. You see simple minded Gipper, BOTH things can be true. They were and will always be the 1968 NFL CHAMPIONS. THEY WON THE NFL. THE JETS WON THE AFL (TWO DIFFERENT LEAGUES DUMMY.) THEN THOSE TWO CHAMPIONS PLAYED EACH OTHER. 

    Again, for the last time, if this pandemic hadn't occurred, and the Chiefs (the NFL Champion) had the opportunity to play the The Houston Roughnecks (assuming they won the XFL), the loser of that game would STILL BE their associated LEAGUE CHAMPION. 

    But to the point, you never said a thing about the 1965 Green Bay Packers/Buffalo Bills. That doesn't fit your agenda. But BOTH of those were champions. Or heck, lets use 1964. The Browns won the NFL AND The Buffalo Bills won the AFL. 

    If you can't refute any of that, then just STFU. I have not once said anything incorrect in this discussion. I have never used anything but facts and never used those facts to bend the results to match my opinion.

    @gunz41 said:

    You aren't getting it...

    The AL and NL are in the SAME LEAGUE. 

    NO, they were NOT....Not until the early  2000s did the two leagues merge into one entity, called MLB.    If you can't get your facts straight...no sense dealing with you.

    But go ahead and put your reputation where your mouth is.

    Go back over ANY of this and quote ONE time that I said anything about the Colts won the whole thing or THE football championship.

    Well...then, right,  what they won is just what I said:  the equivalent of an  AFC or NFC Conference Championship today. 

    You just can't accept the fact that you were wrong.

    I will accept the fact that I am right.  

    1st by saying that NOBODY considered the Colts to be champions in 1968. When that is proven to be incorrect, you change your argument. 

    I consider you correct here:  Nobody considered the Colts to be Champions of 1968

    I have continually said that the Colts did NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL. THEY DIDNT WIN THEIR LAST GAME OF THE SEASON. You see simple minded Gipper, BOTH things can be true. They were and will always be the 1968 NFL CHAMPIONS. THEY WON THE NFL. THE JETS WON THE AFL (TWO DIFFERENT LEAGUES DUMMY.) THEN THOSE TWO CHAMPIONS PLAYED EACH OTHER. 

    Yes...just like the AFC and NFC Champions play each other.  

    Again, for the last time, if this pandemic hadn't occurred, and the Chiefs (the NFL Champion) had the opportunity to play the The Houston Roughnecks (assuming they won the XFL), the loser of that game would STILL BE their associated LEAGUE CHAMPION. 

    But to the point, you never said a thing about the 1965 Green Bay Packers/Buffalo Bills. That doesn't fit your agenda. But BOTH of those were champions. Or heck, lets use 1964. The Browns won the NFL AND The Buffalo Bills won the AFL. 

    Except I think I did mention them.......BOTH  of them were Champions....because they WON , not lost their championship games, the last game they played.  But things changed the following year, and all the years since.....another level of playoffs was added.  In case you didn't notice. And for those 4 years, those NFL/AFL title games became the equivalent of the NFC and AFC title games that have happened since.  

    If you can't refute any of that, then just STFU. I have not once said anything incorrect in this discussion. I have never used anything but facts and never used those facts to bend the results to match my opinion.

    I don't think we disagree on the facts.   Maybe the interpretation of them.  All I can say is that the team that loses the ultimate championship game...is NOT the Champion. 

  • @gunz41 said:

    You aren't getting it...

    The AL and NL are in the SAME LEAGUE. 

    NO, they were NOT....Not until the early  2000s did the two leagues merge into one entity, called MLB.    If you can't get your facts straight...no sense dealing with you.

    But go ahead and put your reputation where your mouth is.

    Go back over ANY of this and quote ONE time that I said anything about the Colts won the whole thing or THE football championship.

    Well...then, right,  what they won is just what I said:  the equivalent of an  AFC or NFC Conference Championship today. 

    You just can't accept the fact that you were wrong.

    I will accept the fact that I am right.  

    1st by saying that NOBODY considered the Colts to be champions in 1968. When that is proven to be incorrect, you change your argument. 

    I consider you correct here:  Nobody considered the Colts to be Champions of 1968

    I have continually said that the Colts did NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL. THEY DIDNT WIN THEIR LAST GAME OF THE SEASON. You see simple minded Gipper, BOTH things can be true. They were and will always be the 1968 NFL CHAMPIONS. THEY WON THE NFL. THE JETS WON THE AFL (TWO DIFFERENT LEAGUES DUMMY.) THEN THOSE TWO CHAMPIONS PLAYED EACH OTHER. 

    Yes...just like the AFC and NFC Champions play each other.  

    Again, for the last time, if this pandemic hadn't occurred, and the Chiefs (the NFL Champion) had the opportunity to play the The Houston Roughnecks (assuming they won the XFL), the loser of that game would STILL BE their associated LEAGUE CHAMPION. 

    But to the point, you never said a thing about the 1965 Green Bay Packers/Buffalo Bills. That doesn't fit your agenda. But BOTH of those were champions. Or heck, lets use 1964. The Browns won the NFL AND The Buffalo Bills won the AFL. 

    Except I think I did mention them.......BOTH  of them were Champions....because they WON , not lost their championship games, the last game they played.  But things changed the following year, and all the years since.....another level of playoffs was added.  In case you didn't notice. And for those 4 years, those NFL/AFL title games became the equivalent of the NFC and AFC title games that have happened since.  

    If you can't refute any of that, then just STFU. I have not once said anything incorrect in this discussion. I have never used anything but facts and never used those facts to bend the results to match my opinion.

    I don't think we disagree on the facts.   Maybe the interpretation of them.  All I can say is that the team that loses the ultimate championship game...is NOT the Champion. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Wow, dig dig dig.

    You are the ONLY person who used ULTIMATE champion.

    And again, unwilling to accept truth. Multiple different places, including NFL and ESPN DO RECOGNIZE them as EXACTLY what has been said since the beginning, NFL CHAMPIONS. 

    Tell you what jacka**, lets make a clear deal. You stfu and leave if you show ANYWHERE where I said A WORD about the Colts winning the SB, their last game, or that they did ANYTHING besides win the NFL CHAMPIONSHIP.

    And I guess if you hadn't have kept running your mouth and showed a narrow view then you could have been taken seriously with your AFC/NFC comparison being an extra game. But when you refused/disagreed/etc that a more comparable comparison would be NFL vs XFL then you lose all that credibility. 

    And no pal, MLB hasn't just been around since early 2000s. That is just you trying to use some kind of asinine logic. If you are trying to use interleague play as a straw man argument, fine. But the point wasn't literally that the 2 teams didnt play common opponents, but that they were encompassed under a different umbrella.

    It's absolutely hilarious that thinking back how you were making fun of someone who had blocked you calling them weak or something like that (in a profane manner if I recall correctly). But when over and over you interact with the same person and they are so thick headed that they won't listen to any sound reason, facts, etc. and verbally attack you then what is the reason you would want to continue to do so? Especially when that person does it with more than a handful of others and they continue to act as if they are the smarter, and only authority. Yet can't stand to be questioned on anything or they unleash a spew of venom.

    Now carry on with your constant nonsense on here. Just be careful, the more you act the way you do, the more you resemble someone you seem to dislike (nope not a former poster here, think a lot bigger).

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    Seriously give it a listen... Canadian garage band that just fell short...