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And now you're backtracking. I'm not going to go into your insane unhumane political beliefs that it's ok for old people to die, many of which are our parents or grandparents and literally the only reason we even typing this, but your "sauces are BS" The only reason OBJ wouldn't isn't on the team in 2021 is for cap reasons and that reason only barring injures. That is a very real possibility since there's a real life crisis out there in the REAL world and it's costing the the real life NFL money and actually human lives, if you don't believe me lick some toilets or go to the Cleveland Clinic. You know what else is a real possibility Baker sucks and we cut him and sign someone like Matthew Stafford to right the ship while keeping an All-Pro WR. You need to tell your source Dickers to lay off the bleach while looking for the edge of the world. It's not even funny anymore at least Ghoolie provided some laughs with a thin vile of racism (which is not ok!) but he was never devoid of a complete lack of empathy which you two trolls seem to exhibit or spread misinformation which every single scientist , doctor, country, has debunked except for some crazy Alex Jone, "faux news" , bizzaro type shit. You sound like a deranged lunatic just like that lying bastard. Not cool! Not cool at all. Shame on you.
Someone had to ask: What is wrong with you?
Someone had to ask: What is wrong with you?
Blame, lie, deflect. Straight out the book. Your football "sauces" are complete and utter bullshit and no one beside nicker believes any of the BS you get called out on. Which is ironic because he clearly is your source and is literally the 1 single people that agrees with the constant Bullshit you spew.
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If I'm going to invest any amount of time reading the thoughts of a stranger within a community of mutual passionate fans on topics revolving around a game many of us hold dear, then I prefer to read the words of someone I know won't be wasting my fucking time.
We're all here to share thoughts, insight, musings and to disseminate our love and knowledge of football.
Some are more worthy of the time spent reading their material than others. The important thing is determining which one's.
You've spent time trying to convince others on this board of things that are out right lies. But you're going to tell me to "re-think". Google the word "projection". You might discover something about yourself.
<long whistle sound> Tell me what "lies"I tried to sell people? Are you confusing "opinions" as anything than what they are? Let's just say if you are seeking approval and self-validation from an Internet sports message board, you might be in for a lot of disappointment in life. If you seek to take anyone "serious" from a message board, then, well, good luck to yea. Do you also look to take callers on talk sports radio "serious" as well? No difference. Bizarre.
<long whistle sound> Tell me what "lies"I tried to sell people? Are you confusing "opinions" as anything than what they are? Let's just say if you are seeking approval and self-validation from an Internet sports message board, you might be in for a lot of disappointment in life. If you seek to take anyone "serious" from a message board, then, well, good luck to yea. Do you also look to take callers on talk sports radio "serious" as well? No difference. Bizarre.
I think the numbers game regarding covid has been turned into a political football, so believe whichever numbers float your boat.
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
I'll just say this Nickers- a lot of the diseases or viruses you mention aren't nearly as easily transmittable as covid. You need direct contact with Ebola, or something contaminated with (usually poop) to come down with E Coli. AIDS only by direct body fluid transmission. You can't get HIV standing next to someone in a grocery checkout. The big problem with covid is it's disturbing capacity for some individuals to be infectious as hell, yet show no symptoms. One other disease did that- I just got my memory jogged about "Typhoid Mary". OTOH, when you get the flu, or measles- you know it.
With most of the country cautiously opening up- we're going to see how many more lives will be lost to create herd immunity. I honestly believe if we had gone on as situation normal, let's do Sweden, there would be a lot more deaths now. If you think if the trade off wasn't worth it, I understand- many would agree. And for sure- I totally disagree that pharmaceutical companies are stalling on releasing hydroxychloroquine in the hopes of bigger profits down the road from a vaccine. I posted on the poli board one manufacturer of generic drugs over in Great Britain just brought in 50 tons of chemical precursors to ramp up hydroxy production. That's one company- bet the ranch many others are doing the same.
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Again, get your big boy pants on and have a real conversation, not just use fake news and name calling (even when I have stated I don't identify as Dem or Rep). You just take the stance that since I didn't appear to agree with every word you said then I am uneducated on this and politically against your view.
You STILL failed to answer most of my questions.
I am sure you don't care how you are viewed on a message board, I don't know that anyone really cares how they are viewed, but you come off qs someone who just wants to state their views, not have any discussion, and villianize anyone who doesn't agree or capitulate fully.
When I am not even one of those people who is trying to change your mind. I just want to see how you answer those questions.
And it's ridiculous to use "these are still here." That is just trying to justify your viewpoint. There are also these things that people who contract those things take called medications. And every medication has to go through testing for efficacy and side effects. You are so set in your argument that you used an uneducated, spur of the moment talking point when its easy to just say that NOBODY knows what is going on yet, possibly in the near future we will have measures to combat this.
So please sir, if you want to be taken seriously and not just a troll pushing political jargon, answer the questions in YOUR OPINION. That doesn't mean that people will agree, but when you don't answer them it makes it look as if you are purposely avoiding them because it weakens your opinion
I don't have to explain anything to you... I'm not indebted to you.. You don't pay my fucking bills... If you're too stupid to interpret or decipher what I'm saying That's YOUR problem.. Not mine!.. I'm not gonna waste half of my life trying to explain every little detail to your politically correct brain washed mind.. The answers are right in front of you dude.. Open your eyes!..
I don't have to explain anything to you... I'm not indebted to you.. You don't pay my fucking bills... If you're too stupid to interpret or decipher what I'm saying That's YOUR problem.. Not mine!.. I'm not gonna waste half of my life trying to explain every little detail to your politically correct brain washed mind.. The answers are right in front of you dude.. Open your eyes!..
Nope, don't have to explain anything to anyone. But unwillingness to do so is basically just showing that you CAN'T answer them in an educated manner.
But your attempt to demean by saying the answers are right in front of me, does that mean NBC? FOX? CNN? ABC? Because what you have said is those are Fake News. So what you are really saying is that your view of the answers are somewhere. The thing you aren't understanding is that you are being hypocritical and narrow minded with that line, and doing the same thing the people on the other side that you hate so much do.
And picking and choosing the data or talking points you think bolster your case is doing the same thing. Picking out different viruses to say they don't have a cure, Yep you are right. Congratulations. Now, exactly how are these things transmitted? Because last I checked, you can't get HIV from the air. But that doesn't fit your narrative.
And you bring up the 99% and cases being recorded as COVID even when it wasn't. I have ZERO issue believing that. But exactly how do YOU compute that Donald Trump lauded himself, his administration, and the drs. that if he hadn't acted so quickly that it could have been 1 million plus? Are you telling us that he was lying, wrong?
And you and others calling it a SCAMDEMIC or FAKEDEMIC, yet proclaiming that doesn't mean its all fake. That is what those names mean. And that DOESN'T equate to THE PRESIDENT saying how serious this is, and certainly not equating to taking medication to try and prevent getting it. Why would he be doing that if its a scam, fake, etc?
And again, I don't know why you keep saying Demoncrat or whatever in posts related to me. I AM NOT A DEM OR REP. And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault. But just spitting out political rhetoric or only relying on information that you agree with is what you are so vocally against.
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When you call it a Fake-Demic, you're saying you don't believe them.
Either it's real and you believe them or it's a fake-demic and you don't believe them.
Pick one.
The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs.
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes medical pathologists - but be careful, life might have nuance!
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Strawman argument.
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Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs.
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes medical pathologists - but be careful, life might have nuance!
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Strawman argument.
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These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
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And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
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The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
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These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
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And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done. Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue
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Well technically, nobody knows how long it has been here. If it is your intention to take up for the President (nothing wrong with that), that hurts your argument.
And I am unwilling to use the word only when talking about life. And if you are one of the people who tries to compare this virus to driving and other things that kills more people then you certainly lose all credibility. Not saying that it doesn't, but driving isn't contagious, neither is cancer, etc.
And if this is much ado about nothing, or hoax or whatever you want to label it as, then exactly how do you explain places/situations/cities with closer more frequent contact being at higher risk?
Not wanting to believe everything, statistics, etc is VERY different than calling it a hoax, plan, etc. And it makes ZERO sense why this would be something a political party would do when it is effecting both sides, rich and poor.
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
West Nile is contagious.
Ummmm.... no.
The West Nile virus is not contagious. It cannot be transmitted from person to person. A person cannot get the virus, for example, from touching or kissing a person who has the disease or from a health-care worker who has treated someone with the disease.
- The virus is carried from infected birds to people by mosquitoes.
- There is no evidence for transmission from person to person.
https://www.medicinenet.com/west_nile_encephalitis/article.htm
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These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
So Bloomberg is not fake news? Or does a 2-month old Bloomberg article gain credibility with time?
It's well-known now that certain factors increase the lethality of Covid-19. Doesn't change the fact that the virus hastened deaths...
Why not simply make the argument that mortality is the real problem?
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@icecube said:
You clearly have anger issues and a foggy brain. Do everyone a favor and seek help.
Since EVER single person this board but nickers is questioning how you perceive reality and your gross inability to grasp basic medical and scientific fact, I think it you that needs to check in for 72 hold at the nearest psych ward. And once again you deflect, offer up nothing substantial, and are caught in yet another lie by other members. Just quit, it quite sad, and equally pathetic.
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Well technically, nobody knows how long it has been here. If it is your intention to take up for the President (nothing wrong with that), that hurts your argument.
And I am unwilling to use the word only when talking about life. And if you are one of the people who tries to compare this virus to driving and other things that kills more people then you certainly lose all credibility. Not saying that it doesn't, but driving isn't contagious, neither is cancer, etc.
And if this is much ado about nothing, or hoax or whatever you want to label it as, then exactly how do you explain places/situations/cities with closer more frequent contact being at higher risk?
Not wanting to believe everything, statistics, etc is VERY different than calling it a hoax, plan, etc. And it makes ZERO sense why this would be something a political party would do when it is effecting both sides, rich and poor.
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
Truth.
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And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done. Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue
Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
Right, I had no intention of trying to respond to your entire post...just that one comment. So what? The fact is, his blatant disregard, even contempt for how serious this thing was going to be despite numerous warnings is his fault.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done.
Well...we sort of can. We can tell what other leaders DID. (and he comes out at or near the bottom of things)
Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well
No shit.
, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue.
I agree completely.....and the truth is, most of my criticisms of Trump have nothing whatsover to do with the left/right....liberal/conservative dichotomy. They have to do with far, far more basic matters: His dishonesty, his corruptibility, his incompetence, his indecency, his lack of humanity, his narcissism, etc. etc. etc. None of which has to do with politics...but with character. Just a note on that: I was basically opposed to much of G.W. Bush's policies.....but, unlike DJT I am not critical of him on most of the matters that I am critical of Trump on: (with One major exception: the whole WMD lie that led to the Iraq War...that was bad.) GW Bush was a guy you could like: Overall he was basically honest, decent, his administration was competent, he thought and acted humanely. Not this guy.
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Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs.
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes medical pathologists - but be careful, life might have nuance!
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Strawman argument.
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The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
While I don't share the same views as nickers on a lot of the covid stuff the stats are being deliberately falsified in the sense that flu pneumonia and common cold deaths have went down to zero at this time. Hospitals are attributing all those and any respiratory deaths to COVID19 even without a positive test for covid. They are doing so because they get more money for labeling it a covid death. In my hometown (not a small place) just last week they had a known pneumonia death that was tagged as a covid death so they could get the 39k because the patient was put on a ventilator. This is according to multiple personnel that I know who work there
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