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If not prevented, the 2nd wave they will unleash will be far worse - new, more aggressive strain.
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The entire point of you only replying to one sentence is not referring to any context whatsoever.
I don't see how you or anyone can say he has/hasn't done a good job compared to how others would have. It would all be assumptions.
And if you are referring to other countries, I don't think they are comparable for a huge list of reasons, including things that are present in this thread. And while I think that a bunch of the criticism brought upon Mr. Trump can be attributed to his demeanor, that adds another layer to it as well. Because you know that there are large segments of the population that will either do exactly everything he says or will refuse because he said it.
In my opinion, I think that people should do their own research from either a neutral POV or from both sides. Because when people just state things without actually thinking of the counter argument just makes them look uninformed (not specifically saying anyone in particular). The most likely truth is that Mr. Trump has done some "good" things with this and some "bad" things. But along with your demeanor comment, it certainly doesn't help that everything is "perfect".
Now what would be interesting to see is what the response be from people who are so set against POTUS if it was scientifically proven that hydroxychlorquine is effective if available to the masses if they would take it. If they wouldn't, then in my view they are being hypocritical by saying people are inhumane with refusing to wear masks and vice versa.
Again, I can see things on both "sides" of this argument. I can certainly see the numbers being incorrect, but I also don't automatically look at that as being purposely done. But I actually look each day in my area (and its a small area so not bad at all comparably). And day to day some numbers change, even going down). So by definition one of those days had to have been misreported. That doesn't mean it was done maliciously
The entire point of you only replying to one sentence is not referring to any context whatsoever.
My entire point to referring to one sentence was just to reply to the content of that one sentence, not the content of your entire point. What is it about that you do not understand.
I don't see how you or anyone can say he has/hasn't done a good job compared to how others would have. It would all be assumptions.
The fact that you don't see it means nothing to anyone
And if you are referring to other countries, I don't think they are comparable for a huge list of reasons, including things that are present in this thread. And while I think that a bunch of the criticism brought upon Mr. Trump can be attributed to his demeanor, that adds another layer to it as well. Because you know that there are large segments of the population that will either do exactly everything he says or will refuse because he said it.
Well, while, sure, you can't always compare one nation to another in a lot of ways, I do think that you can compare the leadership, or lack thereof, that various heads of state have brought to this situation. And, sure, his demeanor certainly does bring a lot of criticism, but it goes way way beyond that.
In my opinion, I think that people should do their own research from either a neutral POV or from both sides. Because when people just state things without actually thinking of the counter argument just makes them look uninformed (not specifically saying anyone in particular). The most likely truth is that Mr. Trump has done some "good" things with this and some "bad" things. But along with your demeanor comment, it certainly doesn't help that everything is "perfect".
Now what would be interesting to see is what the response be from people who are so set against POTUS if it was scientifically proven that hydroxychlorquine is effective if available to the masses if they would take it. If they wouldn't, then in my view they are being hypocritical by saying people are inhumane with refusing to wear masks and vice versa.
Well...that is a big if....considering that the science has shown the opposite. Everyone would have been more than glad to have had it work. But I think in this case, he is taking it (or he is lying about taking it...which is entirely possible) is only done out of spite, because I think he has to try to justify his stance.
Again, I can see things on both "sides" of this argument. I can certainly see the numbers being incorrect, but I also don't automatically look at that as being purposely done. But I actually look each day in my area (and its a small area so not bad at all comparably). And day to day some numbers change, even going down). So by definition one of those days had to have been misreported. That doesn't mean it was done maliciously
I am sure there is some flexibility in the numbers, but I think they try to be as accurate as humanly possible. The one thing I do notice is that day by day, the daily numbers seem to go down drastically on Sunday, but spike up on Monday. I think that is simply the Health Dept.s catching up on Monday for things that happen on the weekend.
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If not prevented, the 2nd wave they will unleash will be far worse - new, more aggressive strain.
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The entire point of you only replying to one sentence is not referring to any context whatsoever.
My entire point to referring to one sentence was just to reply to the content of that one sentence, not the content of your entire point. What is it about that you do not understand.
I don't see how you or anyone can say he has/hasn't done a good job compared to how others would have. It would all be assumptions.
The fact that you don't see it means nothing to anyone
And if you are referring to other countries, I don't think they are comparable for a huge list of reasons, including things that are present in this thread. And while I think that a bunch of the criticism brought upon Mr. Trump can be attributed to his demeanor, that adds another layer to it as well. Because you know that there are large segments of the population that will either do exactly everything he says or will refuse because he said it.
Well, while, sure, you can't always compare one nation to another in a lot of ways, I do think that you can compare the leadership, or lack thereof, that various heads of state have brought to this situation. And, sure, his demeanor certainly does bring a lot of criticism, but it goes way way beyond that.
In my opinion, I think that people should do their own research from either a neutral POV or from both sides. Because when people just state things without actually thinking of the counter argument just makes them look uninformed (not specifically saying anyone in particular). The most likely truth is that Mr. Trump has done some "good" things with this and some "bad" things. But along with your demeanor comment, it certainly doesn't help that everything is "perfect".
Now what would be interesting to see is what the response be from people who are so set against POTUS if it was scientifically proven that hydroxychlorquine is effective if available to the masses if they would take it. If they wouldn't, then in my view they are being hypocritical by saying people are inhumane with refusing to wear masks and vice versa.
Well...that is a big if....considering that the science has shown the opposite. Everyone would have been more than glad to have had it work. But I think in this case, he is taking it (or he is lying about taking it...which is entirely possible) is only done out of spite, because I think he has to try to justify his stance.
Again, I can see things on both "sides" of this argument. I can certainly see the numbers being incorrect, but I also don't automatically look at that as being purposely done. But I actually look each day in my area (and its a small area so not bad at all comparably). And day to day some numbers change, even going down). So by definition one of those days had to have been misreported. That doesn't mean it was done maliciously
I am sure there is some flexibility in the numbers, but I think they try to be as accurate as humanly possible. The one thing I do notice is that day by day, the daily numbers seem to go down drastically on Sunday, but spike up on Monday. I think that is simply the Health Dept.s catching up on Monday for things that happen on the weekend.
You obviously don't even have an inkling to expand your horizons on looking at things from both sides, and that has been evident in more things than Covid, Trump, etc. But that is besides the point.
I don't think you can look at comparing leaders as it comes to this. 1. Population, demographics, etc. Vary widely. 2. In some of these countries, their isn't a governmental tier system like is in place here. 3. The population density being so diverse in the states makes it difficult. 4. The time-line in which the outbreak occurred. 5. And probably most importantly, the divide in this country is so immense that large amounts of people on both sides refuse to listen to the other. I mean all you have to do is look at the reactions in this thread. People upset about the shutdown and continuance of it in some places. It was 1st instituted by Trump. There is no way for him to be right in that scenario. And maybe not as vehemently, but would be the exact opposite if there were other members in charge. While from my understanding, in other countries the citizens listen to their leaders, and I believe some places masks are MANDATORY. You very well know that wouldn't happen here.
As for "Trumps" drug, people are saying to wait out the time for a vaccine to come as it has to go through all this testing. The same thing needs to happen for a drug. Depending on what you read or hear, there has been mixed results on HC. I am not saying it will/won't work, I have no clue, but conservatively say it has been 3 months. That really isn't much time to conclude the efficacy. And if you are being honest, you very well know that there are segments of the population that would refuse to take it IF it did work just because it was touted by Trump and its reported that he has a small stake in the drug.
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I buy that over 90,000 are dead from it....maybe more. I buy that there have been a million and a half cases. Probably more.
I buy that you could get it and die from it. I won't forget to put roses on your grave.
I buy that Trump is so spooked about it having been so close to him that he is now trying crazy bullshit to try to avoid getting it.
I buy that as a 68 year old with diabetes it could be deadly for me if I am not careful about things, ergo I am careful.
And, I will be brutally honest: rather you than me.
All the stats for CV are cooked. Hospitals made huge $ by exaggerating CV deaths, fact. Under the "rules" anyone dying of almost anything could be blamed on CV and they got $ for every one of them, no tests needed. Also, evidence suggests many who have got the flu shot will test positive for CV. And, you can take your roses and shove them up your @ss. At this point, you're a duped patsy.
All the stats for CV are cooked. Hospitals made huge $ by exaggerating CV
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
All the stats for CV are cooked. Hospitals made huge $ by exaggerating CV
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Exactly. My wife works at one of the two major health systems here in Dayton (she's the evening Lab Supervisor), non essential employees are being laid off, and those in essential areas are on reduced hours- use vacation days. She's only working 24 hours a week.
Is there a possibility some covid deaths are being over counted? As I've said, it all depends on how you want to count. If it was a significant factor in their death, I say yes. Now in the case of John Glenn's 100 year old wife- sorry, that was old age. Which incidentally, can't be listed as the cause of death on a death certificate.
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If not prevented, the 2nd wave they will unleash will be far worse - new, more aggressive strain.
If not prevented, the 2nd wave they will unleash will be far worse - new, more aggressive strain.
We don't know that yet. What we do know is the virus can readily mutate, what direction it will mutate in is TBD. It could just as easily mutate into something completely harmless. Where for art thou now Spanish Flu bug?
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All the stats for CV are cooked. Hospitals made huge $ by exaggerating CV
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Yes many are losing money, but that doesn't dismiss the fact hospitals made "huge" dollars by exaggerating CV...which is mandated. "Huge" is relative btw. It doesn't imply that it covered their losses.
If a person dies of heart disease, but had COVID, they died of COVID. If a person had only weeks to live because of cancer, and they had COVID, they died of COVID. The deaths are so inflated. This whole fuckin COVID thing is so goddamned phony.
And my son works at a hospital too.
And just recently we had the CDC tell us that COVID doesn't live very long on surfaces after all.
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You obviously don't even have an inkling to expand your horizons on looking at things from both sides, and that has been evident in more things than Covid, Trump, etc. But that is besides the point.
I don't think you can look at comparing leaders as it comes to this. 1. Population, demographics, etc. Vary widely. 2. In some of these countries, their isn't a governmental tier system like is in place here. 3. The population density being so diverse in the states makes it difficult. 4. The time-line in which the outbreak occurred. 5. And probably most importantly, the divide in this country is so immense that large amounts of people on both sides refuse to listen to the other. I mean all you have to do is look at the reactions in this thread. People upset about the shutdown and continuance of it in some places. It was 1st instituted by Trump. There is no way for him to be right in that scenario. And maybe not as vehemently, but would be the exact opposite if there were other members in charge. While from my understanding, in other countries the citizens listen to their leaders, and I believe some places masks are MANDATORY. You very well know that wouldn't happen here.
As for "Trumps" drug, people are saying to wait out the time for a vaccine to come as it has to go through all this testing. The same thing needs to happen for a drug. Depending on what you read or hear, there has been mixed results on HC. I am not saying it will/won't work, I have no clue, but conservatively say it has been 3 months. That really isn't much time to conclude the efficacy. And if you are being honest, you very well know that there are segments of the population that would refuse to take it IF it did work just because it was touted by Trump and its reported that he has a small stake in the drug.
You obviously don't even have an inkling to expand your horizons on looking at things from both sides, and that has been evident in more things than Covid, Trump, etc. But that is besides the point.
Trust me, I do. But you bore me, so I don't look at your shit from that perspective.
I don't think you can look at comparing leaders as it comes to this. 1. Population, demographics, etc. Vary widely. 2. In some of these countries, their isn't a governmental tier system like is in place here. 3. The population density being so diverse in the states makes it difficult. 4. The time-line in which the outbreak occurred. 5. And probably most importantly, the divide in this country is so immense that large amounts of people on both sides refuse to listen to the other. I mean all you have to do is look at the reactions in this thread. People upset about the shutdown and continuance of it in some places. It was 1st instituted by Trump. There is no way for him to be right in that scenario. And maybe not as vehemently, but would be the exact opposite if there were other members in charge. While from my understanding, in other countries the citizens listen to their leaders, and I believe some places masks are MANDATORY. You very well know that wouldn't happen here.
As for "Trumps" drug, people are saying to wait out the time for a vaccine to come as it has to go through all this testing. The same thing needs to happen for a drug. Depending on what you read or hear, there has been mixed results on HC. I am not saying it will/won't work, I have no clue, but conservatively say it has been 3 months. That really isn't much time to conclude the efficacy. And if you are being honest, you very well know that there are segments of the population that would refuse to take it IF it did work just because it was touted by Trump and its reported that he has a small stake in the drug.
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If not prevented, the 2nd wave they will unleash will be far worse - new, more aggressive strain.
We don't know that yet. What we do know is the virus can readily mutate, what direction it will mutate in is TBD. It could just as easily mutate into something completely harmless. Where for art thou now Spanish Flu bug?
We don't know that yet. What we do know is the virus can readily mutate, what direction it will mutate in is TBD. It could just as easily mutate into something completely harmless. Where for art thou now Spanish Flu bug?
I know we don't KNOW a 2nd wave will hit, but it wouldn't shock me. And, yes, that Spanish flu did a boatload of damage and then went away.
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All the stats for CV are cooked. Hospitals made huge $ by exaggerating CV
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Oh, I know hospitals are generally empty now (but that doesn't fit into the mainstream/govt. narrative). But hospitals get something like $16k for every claimed CV case, so in places like NY they counted every pneumonia death as CV, even though they often didn't even know if CV was involved. Corrupt to the core.
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Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Oh, I know hospitals are generally empty now (but that doesn't fit into the mainstream/govt. narrative). But hospitals get something like $16k for every claimed CV case, so in places like NY they counted every pneumonia death as CV, even though they often didn't even know if CV was involved. Corrupt to the core.
Oh, I know hospitals are generally empty now (but that doesn't fit into the mainstream/govt. narrative). But hospitals get something like $16k for every claimed CV case, so in places like NY they counted every pneumonia death as CV, even though they often didn't even know if CV was involved. Corrupt to the core.
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You obviously don't even have an inkling to expand your horizons on looking at things from both sides, and that has been evident in more things than Covid, Trump, etc. But that is besides the point.
Trust me, I do. But you bore me, so I don't look at your shit from that perspective.
I don't think you can look at comparing leaders as it comes to this. 1. Population, demographics, etc. Vary widely. 2. In some of these countries, their isn't a governmental tier system like is in place here. 3. The population density being so diverse in the states makes it difficult. 4. The time-line in which the outbreak occurred. 5. And probably most importantly, the divide in this country is so immense that large amounts of people on both sides refuse to listen to the other. I mean all you have to do is look at the reactions in this thread. People upset about the shutdown and continuance of it in some places. It was 1st instituted by Trump. There is no way for him to be right in that scenario. And maybe not as vehemently, but would be the exact opposite if there were other members in charge. While from my understanding, in other countries the citizens listen to their leaders, and I believe some places masks are MANDATORY. You very well know that wouldn't happen here.
As for "Trumps" drug, people are saying to wait out the time for a vaccine to come as it has to go through all this testing. The same thing needs to happen for a drug. Depending on what you read or hear, there has been mixed results on HC. I am not saying it will/won't work, I have no clue, but conservatively say it has been 3 months. That really isn't much time to conclude the efficacy. And if you are being honest, you very well know that there are segments of the population that would refuse to take it IF it did work just because it was touted by Trump and its reported that he has a small stake in the drug.
The US military has been dishing out HC for 50 years to the troops, but now they are saying it might not be "safe?" So we've been making our troops take an "unsafe" drug for 50 years?
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The US military has been dishing out HC for 50 years to the troops, but now they are saying it might not be "safe?" So we've been making our troops take an "unsafe" drug for 50 years?
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You obviously don't even have an inkling to expand your horizons on looking at things from both sides, and that has been evident in more things than Covid, Trump, etc. But that is besides the point.
Trust me, I do. But you bore me, so I don't look at your shit from that perspective.
I don't think you can look at comparing leaders as it comes to this. 1. Population, demographics, etc. Vary widely. 2. In some of these countries, their isn't a governmental tier system like is in place here. 3. The population density being so diverse in the states makes it difficult. 4. The time-line in which the outbreak occurred. 5. And probably most importantly, the divide in this country is so immense that large amounts of people on both sides refuse to listen to the other. I mean all you have to do is look at the reactions in this thread. People upset about the shutdown and continuance of it in some places. It was 1st instituted by Trump. There is no way for him to be right in that scenario. And maybe not as vehemently, but would be the exact opposite if there were other members in charge. While from my understanding, in other countries the citizens listen to their leaders, and I believe some places masks are MANDATORY. You very well know that wouldn't happen here.
As for "Trumps" drug, people are saying to wait out the time for a vaccine to come as it has to go through all this testing. The same thing needs to happen for a drug. Depending on what you read or hear, there has been mixed results on HC. I am not saying it will/won't work, I have no clue, but conservatively say it has been 3 months. That really isn't much time to conclude the efficacy. And if you are being honest, you very well know that there are segments of the population that would refuse to take it IF it did work just because it was touted by Trump and its reported that he has a small stake in the drug.
I just love when Rachel Maddow boot lickers are uncovered. It always makes so much sense.
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I just love when Rachel Maddow boot lickers are uncovered. It always makes so much sense.
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Do they use a needle and a spoon?
No, you're thinking of the lib cities: needles all over, human feces in the streets - all those super awesome traits.
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