NFL / Covid Updates
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You have all this credibility and still aren't seeing what is happening. I'm not gonna be able to wake you, so I'm not gonna try. Peace be with you.
Oh, I'm as awake as anyone when it comes to our "covid crisis". This has totally been turned into a political football- and it largely depends on which commentators you want to listen to\believe. I think I have enough intelligence based on what I'm reading from both sides of the spectrum to make up my own mind on the subject. And as I said- what you're seeing- or not- largely depends on your political POV, and I'm leaving the politics out of it. Oh, I could start pointing fingers as to IMHO who turned it into said football (both sides are equally guilty)- but then that's politics, not football. Obviously I'm not going to change your mind either.
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You have all this credibility and still aren't seeing what is happening. I'm not gonna be able to wake you, so I'm not gonna try. Peace be with you.
Oh, I'm as awake as anyone when it comes to our "covid crisis". This has totally been turned into a political football- and it largely depends on which commentators you want to listen to\believe. I think I have enough intelligence based on what I'm reading from both sides of the spectrum to make up my own mind on the subject. And as I said- what you're seeing- or not- largely depends on your political POV, and I'm leaving the politics out of it. Oh, I could start pointing fingers as to IMHO who turned it into said football (both sides are equally guilty)- but then that's politics, not football. Obviously I'm not going to change your mind either.
Oh, I'm as awake as anyone when it comes to our "covid crisis". This has totally been turned into a political football- and it largely depends on which commentators you want to listen to\believe. I think I have enough intelligence based on what I'm reading from both sides of the spectrum to make up my own mind on the subject. And as I said- what you're seeing- or not- largely depends on your political POV, and I'm leaving the politics out of it. Oh, I could start pointing fingers as to IMHO who turned it into said football (both sides are equally guilty)- but then that's politics, not football. Obviously I'm not going to change your mind either.
It's not a "political football." This goes way beyond "political." I'm done on this.
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Oh, I'm as awake as anyone when it comes to our "covid crisis". This has totally been turned into a political football- and it largely depends on which commentators you want to listen to\believe. I think I have enough intelligence based on what I'm reading from both sides of the spectrum to make up my own mind on the subject. And as I said- what you're seeing- or not- largely depends on your political POV, and I'm leaving the politics out of it. Oh, I could start pointing fingers as to IMHO who turned it into said football (both sides are equally guilty)- but then that's politics, not football. Obviously I'm not going to change your mind either.
It's not a "political football." This goes way beyond "political." I'm done on this.
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Oh, I'm as awake as anyone when it comes to our "covid crisis". This has totally been turned into a political football- and it largely depends on which commentators you want to listen to\believe. I think I have enough intelligence based on what I'm reading from both sides of the spectrum to make up my own mind on the subject. And as I said- what you're seeing- or not- largely depends on your political POV, and I'm leaving the politics out of it. Oh, I could start pointing fingers as to IMHO who turned it into said football (both sides are equally guilty)- but then that's politics, not football. Obviously I'm not going to change your mind either.
It's not a "political football." This goes way beyond "political." I'm done on this.
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I do wear masks, and gloves. I look like every other responsible person out there.
Let me ask you this: You are in line at a store, ready to check out. You are standing right next the person in front of you, like within 2 feet. That person in front of you in line, also not wearing a mask, turns their head to avoid doing so toward the cashier, but then coughs essentially right in your face.
Tell me that would not bother you one bit.
Except for the fact that masks don't protect you from such a microbial, infinitesimal virus. But other than that, really good point (rolls eyes). Fabric on masks has far too many large holes to actually be effective against CV. So as you are standing in line (looking like an oaf) in your "12 Monkeys" outfit, you are far from safe.

Except for the fact that masks don't protect you from such a microbial, infinitesimal virus. But other than that, really good point (rolls eyes). Fabric on masks has far too many large holes to actually be effective against CV. So as you are standing in line (looking like an oaf) in your "12 Monkeys" outfit, you are far from safe.
The masks not only protect you from droplets/germs of others; but they also protect others from your droplets/germs. 2 fold prevention comes from science. A need to call inconvenient truth "fake news" comes from paranoid politicians that rarely ever tell the truth. They're looking for a few good knuckleheads like you to buy their bullshittt hook line and sinker.
Is that Calfox above all dressed for safety and success at the dealership he bought his truck at?
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Data?
I see no reason to bring Pompeo into this discussion.
I can just use the Data of one- my wife's hospital, where she sees see occupied beds, and it's down- way down...
Not to worry. Trumpy is ordering CDC to say that churches can now safely open. Right from the highest Scientologist I think.?
Well, the Catholic Churches SW Ohio, Northern Kentucky will open soon. Every third row, please wear a mask if you can. The Bishop of Minneapolis did have a point about defying the governor- no more than 10 people in a Cathedral that seats 2,000? Please.
I don't believe it is mandated but maybe Gorka will prove me wrong. However it is a fact that hospitals receive more money (39k) from insurances if a "covid" patient is put on a respirator. I believe they only receive something like 13k normally for patients on respirators.
Source: my girlfriend who is a respiration therapist at a big hospital in Columbus.
I wonder where that reimbursement difference is coming from. You'd have to work in billing, not respiratory therapy to get that info.... Belief isn't fact.
I can just use the Data of one- my wife's hospital, where she sees see occupied beds, and it's down- way down...
Well, the Catholic Churches SW Ohio, Northern Kentucky will open soon. Every third row, please wear a mask if you can. The Bishop of Minneapolis did have a point about defying the governor- no more than 10 people in a Cathedral that seats 2,000? Please.
I wonder where that reimbursement difference is coming from. You'd have to work in billing, not respiratory therapy to get that info.... Belief isn't fact.
A big part of the hospital volume being down is that elective surgeries ceased all over the country. These are just starting to resume; but that doesn't guarantee anyone that has been deferring elective surgery is in any hurry for an inpatient hospital stay or outpatient visit.
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I can just use the Data of one- my wife's hospital, where she sees see occupied beds, and it's down- way down...
How about ICU? Also... was her hospital full of Covid-19 patients at one time?
In any case there are areas that are now filling up. The four-county area around Birmingham, AL had a net -2 available ICU beds as of yesterday. Mayor of Birmingham reported one hospital with 1 bed open, but another with 3 beds converted to ICU duty with two other Hospitals' ICUs full.
How about ICU? Also... was her hospital full of Covid-19 patients at one time?
In any case there are areas that are now filling up. The four-county area around Birmingham, AL had a net -2 available ICU beds as of yesterday. Mayor of Birmingham reported one hospital with 1 bed open, but another with 3 beds converted to ICU duty with two other Hospitals' ICUs full.
You are so reaching. Except for NY and few other hot spots, hospitals in general throughout the country were not overrun as so predicted by those "experts" you rely on. The government had spent $660,000,000 to convert facilities into COVID triages anticipating the overflow that will never see a patient.
I know first hand that Marymount Hospital in Garfield Hts. was designated by the Cleveland Clinic as a COVID hospital, not to see a patient.
You people forget that the #1 reason for the shutdown was to prevent this "overflow" and once the cases had leveled off we would reopen..except now we keep moving the goalposts back. We fought the Revolutionary War in which up to 100000 died of a smallpox epidemic.
And since we're in the football forum:
Masked fans at Georgia Tech game during the 1918 pandemic.

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@the-gipper said:
Thank you for giving up talking NONSENSE about this.
FIFY.?
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Except for the fact that masks don't protect you from such a microbial, infinitesimal virus. But other than that, really good point (rolls eyes). Fabric on masks has far too many large holes to actually be effective against CV. So as you are standing in line (looking like an oaf) in your "12 Monkeys" outfit, you are far from safe.
The masks not only protect you from droplets/germs of others; but they also protect others from your droplets/germs. 2 fold prevention comes from science. A need to call inconvenient truth "fake news" comes from paranoid politicians that rarely ever tell the truth. They're looking for a few good knuckleheads like you to buy their bullshittt hook line and sinker.
Is that Calfox above all dressed for safety and success at the dealership he bought his truck at?
The masks not only protect you from droplets/germs of others; but they also protect others from your droplets/germs. 2 fold prevention comes from science. A need to call inconvenient truth "fake news" comes from paranoid politicians that rarely ever tell the truth. They're looking for a few good knuckleheads like you to buy their bullshittt hook line and sinker.
Is that Calfox above all dressed for safety and success at the dealership he bought his truck at?
I really don't bother to listen to what politicians say, unless I see them pushing us towards tyranny. I only pay attention to things like gun grabbing and forced vax - things like that.
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The masks not only protect you from droplets/germs of others; but they also protect others from your droplets/germs. 2 fold prevention comes from science. A need to call inconvenient truth "fake news" comes from paranoid politicians that rarely ever tell the truth. They're looking for a few good knuckleheads like you to buy their bullshittt hook line and sinker.
Is that Calfox above all dressed for safety and success at the dealership he bought his truck at?
I really don't bother to listen to what politicians say, unless I see them pushing us towards tyranny. I only pay attention to things like gun grabbing and forced vax - things like that.
I really don't bother to listen to what politicians say, unless I see them pushing us towards tyranny. I only pay attention to things like gun grabbing and forced vax - things like that.
By all means, keep your guns, with the solace that knowing that if anyone is killed with it, there is an 83% chance that it will be you.
And, just out of curiosity...how did you enjoy having the smallpox, polio, rubella, meningitis, diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis, varicella, and pneumococcal diseases that most kids get vaccinated for?
I mean honestly if you insist on taking yourself out, I know a guy that can help:
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I really don't bother to listen to what politicians say, unless I see them pushing us towards tyranny. I only pay attention to things like gun grabbing and forced vax - things like that.
By all means, keep your guns, with the solace that knowing that if anyone is killed with it, there is an 83% chance that it will be you.
And, just out of curiosity...how did you enjoy having the smallpox, polio, rubella, meningitis, diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis, varicella, and pneumococcal diseases that most kids get vaccinated for?
I mean honestly if you insist on taking yourself out, I know a guy that can help:
By all means, keep your guns, with the solace that knowing that if anyone is killed with it, there is an 83% chance that it will be you.
And, just out of curiosity...how did you enjoy having the smallpox, polio, rubella, meningitis, diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis, varicella, and pneumococcal diseases that most kids get vaccinated for?
I mean honestly if you insist on taking yourself out, I know a guy that can help:
I don't have discussions with people as far gone as you appear. I also don't try to teach math to dogs.
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Nothing to see here. Tests that are actually tainted with CV to begin with. Keep moving.
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So apparently Icecube isn't done with this topic.
What a complete shock.
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By all means, keep your guns, with the solace that knowing that if anyone is killed with it, there is an 83% chance that it will be you.
And, just out of curiosity...how did you enjoy having the smallpox, polio, rubella, meningitis, diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis, varicella, and pneumococcal diseases that most kids get vaccinated for?
I mean honestly if you insist on taking yourself out, I know a guy that can help:
I don't have discussions with people as far gone as you appear. I also don't try to teach math to dogs.
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I am only slightly akilter with my humor. You have fallen off the edge of the Earth in terms of a sense of reality. (Hell....you probably DO think the Earth is flat)
I don't have discussions with people as far gone as you appear. I also don't try to teach math to dogs.
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Nothing to see here. Tests that are actually tainted with CV to begin with. Keep moving.
Nothing to see here. Tests that are actually tainted with CV to begin with. Keep moving.
Yea, please...keep moving.

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Nothing to see here. Tests that are actually tainted with CV to begin with. Keep moving.
Yea, please...keep moving.

Yea, please...keep moving.

I don't have discussions with people as far gone as you appear. I also don't try to teach math to dogs.
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Thank dog for small miracles.
We need you at full strength for your next OBJ rant.
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By all means, keep your guns, with the solace that knowing that if anyone is killed with it, there is an 83% chance that it will be you.
And, just out of curiosity...how did you enjoy having the smallpox, polio, rubella, meningitis, diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis, varicella, and pneumococcal diseases that most kids get vaccinated for?
I mean honestly if you insist on taking yourself out, I know a guy that can help:
I don't have discussions with people as far gone as you appear. I also don't try to teach math to dogs.
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Yea, please...keep moving.

I don't have discussions with people as far gone as you appear. I also don't try to teach math to dogs.
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