An Incalculable Loss...
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So? Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?
A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid... That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War.
Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around.
But he can't blame Trump on those.
I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....
A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid... That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War.
Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around.
I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....
- The cigarette catastrophe continues
There is a myth of sorts that cigarettes are a solved problem. This can be heard when the topic turns to sugar or obesity or the climate crisis, where hopes are raised that these problems, too, might be solved “the way we fixed tobacco”. Of course that is convenient for the makers of cigarettes, who want us to think of tobacco-related death as something from the distant past, a kind of archaism we don't really need to fret too much about.
The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. That number will stay high over the next couple of decades, as the toll of present habits is taken. Disease rates from smoking peak about 30 years after peak rates of consumption, which explains why most of the epidemic lies in the future. Global smoking has now reached an astonishing 6 trillion cigarettes per year, nearly double what it was only four decades ago. That is why most of the cigarette holocaust is yet to come: in 2001 I published a paper predicting that whereas about 100 million people died from smoking in the 20th century, we could expect up to a billion deaths in the present century—assuming that nothing is done to reverse the trend. -
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Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before June 1st, and sadly I was right.
Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die? You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.
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sadly, per the Canton paper - 70% of covid19 deaths in Ohio - nursing home folks. Their health is so often too fragile.
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A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid... That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War.
Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around.
I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....
- The cigarette catastrophe continues
There is a myth of sorts that cigarettes are a solved problem. This can be heard when the topic turns to sugar or obesity or the climate crisis, where hopes are raised that these problems, too, might be solved “the way we fixed tobacco”. Of course that is convenient for the makers of cigarettes, who want us to think of tobacco-related death as something from the distant past, a kind of archaism we don't really need to fret too much about.
The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. That number will stay high over the next couple of decades, as the toll of present habits is taken. Disease rates from smoking peak about 30 years after peak rates of consumption, which explains why most of the epidemic lies in the future. Global smoking has now reached an astonishing 6 trillion cigarettes per year, nearly double what it was only four decades ago. That is why most of the cigarette holocaust is yet to come: in 2001 I published a paper predicting that whereas about 100 million people died from smoking in the 20th century, we could expect up to a billion deaths in the present century—assuming that nothing is done to reverse the trend.- The cigarette catastrophe continues
There is a myth of sorts that cigarettes are a solved problem. This can be heard when the topic turns to sugar or obesity or the climate crisis, where hopes are raised that these problems, too, might be solved “the way we fixed tobacco”. Of course that is convenient for the makers of cigarettes, who want us to think of tobacco-related death as something from the distant past, a kind of archaism we don't really need to fret too much about.
The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. That number will stay high over the next couple of decades, as the toll of present habits is taken. Disease rates from smoking peak about 30 years after peak rates of consumption, which explains why most of the epidemic lies in the future. Global smoking has now reached an astonishing 6 trillion cigarettes per year, nearly double what it was only four decades ago. That is why most of the cigarette holocaust is yet to come: in 2001 I published a paper predicting that whereas about 100 million people died from smoking in the 20th century, we could expect up to a billion deaths in the present century—assuming that nothing is done to reverse the trend.Yup it's a problem all right. The difference is a person chooses smoking or vaping. Did you notice the #1 preventable cause of death? Are there still people out that are unaware smoking is really bad for you? Unless you're out of you mind- you don't choose to get corona. Well, if you want to run around now in crowed bars and ignore the health warnings, your choice- and same difference. BTW, we've passed the annual number of alcohol related deaths in two months.
I really don't get why you want to keep harping on tobacco deaths in an article highlighting covid deaths. Because it's "only" 100k so far? You're not impressing me one bit.
And the number of people who smoke in American is down drastically.... https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
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sadly, per the Canton paper - 70% of covid19 deaths in Ohio - nursing home folks. Their health is so often too fragile.
sadly, per the Canton paper - 70% of covid19 deaths in Ohio - nursing home folks. Their health is so often too fragile.
Yes Cal, I've said that a lot of the nursing home covid deaths were a result of the virus being the final nail in their coffin. Annie Glenn's death at 100 was primarily from old age. But you can't put that down as a cause of death. My Mom is 91 and in assisted living. If she contracts covid, she's a goner for sure.
I'm not going to go digging around for the article- but it pretty plainly put the numbers out there- that as the number of comorbidity factors increased- the odds that you were going to die if you came down with covid went up right along with it. I'd say being over 85 is a factor in and of itself.
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- The cigarette catastrophe continues
There is a myth of sorts that cigarettes are a solved problem. This can be heard when the topic turns to sugar or obesity or the climate crisis, where hopes are raised that these problems, too, might be solved “the way we fixed tobacco”. Of course that is convenient for the makers of cigarettes, who want us to think of tobacco-related death as something from the distant past, a kind of archaism we don't really need to fret too much about.
The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. That number will stay high over the next couple of decades, as the toll of present habits is taken. Disease rates from smoking peak about 30 years after peak rates of consumption, which explains why most of the epidemic lies in the future. Global smoking has now reached an astonishing 6 trillion cigarettes per year, nearly double what it was only four decades ago. That is why most of the cigarette holocaust is yet to come: in 2001 I published a paper predicting that whereas about 100 million people died from smoking in the 20th century, we could expect up to a billion deaths in the present century—assuming that nothing is done to reverse the trend.Yup it's a problem all right. The difference is a person chooses smoking or vaping. Did you notice the #1 preventable cause of death? Are there still people out that are unaware smoking is really bad for you? Unless you're out of you mind- you don't choose to get corona. Well, if you want to run around now in crowed bars and ignore the health warnings, your choice- and same difference. BTW, we've passed the annual number of alcohol related deaths in two months.
I really don't get why you want to keep harping on tobacco deaths in an article highlighting covid deaths. Because it's "only" 100k so far? You're not impressing me one bit.
And the number of people who smoke in American is down drastically.... https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
Yup it's a problem all right. The difference is a person chooses smoking or vaping. Did you notice the #1 preventable cause of death? Are there still people out that are unaware smoking is really bad for you? Unless you're out of you mind- you don't choose to get corona. Well, if you want to run around now in crowed bars and ignore the health warnings, your choice- and same difference. BTW, we've passed the annual number of alcohol related deaths in two months.
I really don't get why you want to keep harping on tobacco deaths in an article highlighting covid deaths. Because it's "only" 100k so far? You're not impressing me one bit.
And the number of people who smoke in American is down drastically.... https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
Which is the biggest cause of death covid or smoking? You state it's preventable but yet they don't prevent it..." The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. " So one can only reason it's not about saving lives.
Which has shutdown the country? Hello McFly... you're not impressing anyone.
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Yup it's a problem all right. The difference is a person chooses smoking or vaping. Did you notice the #1 preventable cause of death? Are there still people out that are unaware smoking is really bad for you? Unless you're out of you mind- you don't choose to get corona. Well, if you want to run around now in crowed bars and ignore the health warnings, your choice- and same difference. BTW, we've passed the annual number of alcohol related deaths in two months.
I really don't get why you want to keep harping on tobacco deaths in an article highlighting covid deaths. Because it's "only" 100k so far? You're not impressing me one bit.
And the number of people who smoke in American is down drastically.... https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
Which is the biggest cause of death covid or smoking? You state it's preventable but yet they don't prevent it..." The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. " So one can only reason it's not about saving lives.
Which has shutdown the country? Hello McFly... you're not impressing anyone.
Which is the biggest cause of death covid or smoking? You state it's preventable but yet they don't prevent it..." The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. " So one can only reason it's not about saving lives.
Which has shutdown the country? Hello McFly... you're not impressing anyone.
Covid is a disease- you're talking about a habit. Apples and oranges. In case you forgot- we tried banning alcohol- and it didn't work. Smokers would have their little tobacco plant garden in the back yard if we tried the same.
We pretty much took the direction every other country did in shutting down things. Now if you're in the "Give me Liberty and Give me Death" crowd who thinks we should have gone the Swedish route and gone about business as usual- I'd hazard a guess we'd be approaching those smoking death totals right now. Be proud America is #1 in the world- in covid deaths- with those restrictions. And we do know the virus can spread like wildfire- and it's a lot more lethal in symptomatic cases than flu that some folks like to drag up as a comparison. -
Or, ya know, one of those things actually being contagious
Again, amazing some are so politically biased it affects how they view an infectious disease and pandemic.
Scientific issues getting politicized is a problem. As stated in another thread, an increase in scientific illiteracy and misinformation is a danger to society. Hive mind / echo chambers online and more older folks that didn't come up with the internet and learn how to distinguish what a legitimate source is just adds to it.
The people falling for Facebook links and OANN links today are the ones getting scammed on QVC tomorrow
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
my gosh you are a notoriously ignorant bigot.
"scary old people"
"scary some people"
"scary illiterate in science people"
greta woodpecka strikes again.
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Which is the biggest cause of death covid or smoking? You state it's preventable but yet they don't prevent it..." The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. " So one can only reason it's not about saving lives.
Which has shutdown the country? Hello McFly... you're not impressing anyone.
Covid is a disease- you're talking about a habit. Apples and oranges. In case you forgot- we tried banning alcohol- and it didn't work. Smokers would have their little tobacco plant garden in the back yard if we tried the same.
We pretty much took the direction every other country did in shutting down things. Now if you're in the "Give me Liberty and Give me Death" crowd who thinks we should have gone the Swedish route and gone about business as usual- I'd hazard a guess we'd be approaching those smoking death totals right now. Be proud America is #1 in the world- in covid deaths- with those restrictions. And we do know the virus can spread like wildfire- and it's a lot more lethal in symptomatic cases than flu that some folks like to drag up as a comparison.Covid is a disease- you're talking about a habit. Apples and oranges. In case you forgot- we tried banning alcohol- and it didn't work. Smokers would have their little tobacco plant garden in the back yard if we tried the same.
No I'm talking about DEATHS apples to apples...one CAN be prevented one is still an unknown with considerably fewer DEATHS which one is an issue for November?
We pretty much took the direction every other country did in shutting down things. Now if you're in the "Give me Liberty and Give me Death" crowd who thinks we should have gone the Swedish route and gone about business as usual- I'd hazard a guess we'd be approaching those smoking death totals right now. Be proud America is #1 in the world- in covid deaths- with those restrictions. And we do know the virus can spread like wildfire- and it's a lot more lethal in symptomatic cases than flu that some folks like to drag up as a comparison.I'm saying if you truly want to save lives why would you concentrate on the one you can't stop at this point in time and not the one which you can stop which kills at a greater rate?
Keeping people out of work will only result in greater suffering and death.
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Covid is a disease- you're talking about a habit. Apples and oranges. In case you forgot- we tried banning alcohol- and it didn't work. Smokers would have their little tobacco plant garden in the back yard if we tried the same.
No I'm talking about DEATHS apples to apples...one CAN be prevented one is still an unknown with considerably fewer DEATHS which one is an issue for November?
We pretty much took the direction every other country did in shutting down things. Now if you're in the "Give me Liberty and Give me Death" crowd who thinks we should have gone the Swedish route and gone about business as usual- I'd hazard a guess we'd be approaching those smoking death totals right now. Be proud America is #1 in the world- in covid deaths- with those restrictions. And we do know the virus can spread like wildfire- and it's a lot more lethal in symptomatic cases than flu that some folks like to drag up as a comparison.I'm saying if you truly want to save lives why would you concentrate on the one you can't stop at this point in time and not the one which you can stop which kills at a greater rate?
Keeping people out of work will only result in greater suffering and death.
I'm saying if you truly want to save lives why would you concentrate on the one you can't stop at this point in time and not the one which you can stop which kills at a greater rate?
Keeping people out of work will only result in greater suffering and death.
Now your tilting at windmills- ban smoking? Lotsa luck there....
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I'm saying if you truly want to save lives why would you concentrate on the one you can't stop at this point in time and not the one which you can stop which kills at a greater rate?
Keeping people out of work will only result in greater suffering and death.
Now your tilting at windmills- ban smoking? Lotsa luck there....
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Same with trying to keep people out of work and not able to move around freely...good luck with that.
So you are part of the Live Free, and Die crowd. I don't have any problems with that. You responded before I could edit my post. Nice Yahoo article with a comprehensive national poll. What's worse, another 200,000 covid deaths, or another 30,000,000 Americans out of work for a year? I sure as hell know what your response would be without even asking. Call me "undecided". It covered a bunch of other questions- and the responses were amazingly predictable depending on what side of the political fence you happen to be on. I have news for you - the MAGA POV isn't the only one out there. You just might be singing another tune if a good friend or relative kicks off from the disease. I've said elsewhere, not in regard to the virus- but when you start doing serious mountaineering involving rock climbing- you're taking a calculated risk, a mistake could get you killed. I was damn lucky when I landed a 300+ pound boulder on my foot and didn't break it- it would have been call for the helicopter if I had... That said, If you think your personal virus risk is minimal- be my guest. But as Gipper said in the Browns Forum- we'll be more than happy to put flowers on your grave if you guess wrong.
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Or, ya know, one of those things actually being contagious
Again, amazing some are so politically biased it affects how they view an infectious disease and pandemic.
Scientific issues getting politicized is a problem. As stated in another thread, an increase in scientific illiteracy and misinformation is a danger to society. Hive mind / echo chambers online and more older folks that didn't come up with the internet and learn how to distinguish what a legitimate source is just adds to it.
The people falling for Facebook links and OANN links today are the ones getting scammed on QVC tomorrow
Or, ya know, one of those things actually being contagious
Again, amazing some are so politically biased it affects how they view an infectious disease and pandemic.
Scientific issues getting politicized is a problem. As stated in another thread, an increase in scientific illiteracy and misinformation is a danger to society. Hive mind / echo chambers online and more older folks that didn't come up with the internet and learn how to distinguish what a legitimate source is just adds to it.
The people falling for Facebook links and OANN links today are the ones getting scammed on QVC tomorrow
Yeah and shut up Cal, Woody has a point. You don't make a conscious decision to "get" corona. Smoking involves a choice. And Vambo spouting an impossibility doesn't help his case saying smoking is worse. Sure it is. OOOHHHH so how you not going to get covid? Just maybe by making smart personal decisions? Or not smoking? DUH!!! I could (but I won't) post a poll Yahoo recently did on just how badly the covid crisis has been politicized, and the responses are damn near 100% predictable based on your political POV. Reason being, I don't want them to get any ideas the conspiracy theorists have that Bill Gates contributed $300 million to develop a vaccine so he could implant microchip tracking devices in the recipients, or covid is transmitted by 5G towers. Some of these guys will believe anything....
I'll share this- one that I've never forgotten- regarding the above. Involving good old Congo Nick- our resident wild & crazy ER Doc that kept a significant Buck knife in his boot. They brought in a guy who was obviously DOA that had been shot in the chest. Nick rips him open with the knife and starts doing open heart massage- when he had been shot through the heart. He gives up after a minute and I ask Nick- "so what killed him?" Turns to me and said- "Larry, it was his bad lifestyle choice that got him." 100% true story. So go ahead and smoke, party like it's 1999, or hide behind your couch- your choice. .
PS- regarding QVC- I have to wonder how many of those maroons got roped in buying "act now" 1 ounce Federated Mint "Ohio" silver bars for $135 dollars- with the spot price of silver being $17 bucks. As PT Barnum said- "there's a sucker born every minute".
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Or, ya know, one of those things actually being contagious
Again, amazing some are so politically biased it affects how they view an infectious disease and pandemic.
Scientific issues getting politicized is a problem. As stated in another thread, an increase in scientific illiteracy and misinformation is a danger to society. Hive mind / echo chambers online and more older folks that didn't come up with the internet and learn how to distinguish what a legitimate source is just adds to it.
The people falling for Facebook links and OANN links today are the ones getting scammed on QVC tomorrow
Yeah and shut up Cal, Woody has a point. You don't make a conscious decision to "get" corona. Smoking involves a choice. And Vambo spouting an impossibility doesn't help his case saying smoking is worse. Sure it is. OOOHHHH so how you not going to get covid? Just maybe by making smart personal decisions? Or not smoking? DUH!!! I could (but I won't) post a poll Yahoo recently did on just how badly the covid crisis has been politicized, and the responses are damn near 100% predictable based on your political POV. Reason being, I don't want them to get any ideas the conspiracy theorists have that Bill Gates contributed $300 million to develop a vaccine so he could implant microchip tracking devices in the recipients, or covid is transmitted by 5G towers. Some of these guys will believe anything....
I'll share this- one that I've never forgotten- regarding the above. Involving good old Congo Nick- our resident wild & crazy ER Doc that kept a significant Buck knife in his boot. They brought in a guy who was obviously DOA that had been shot in the chest. Nick rips him open with the knife and starts doing open heart massage- when he had been shot through the heart. He gives up after a minute and I ask Nick- "so what killed him?" Turns to me and said- "Larry, it was his bad lifestyle choice that got him." 100% true story. So go ahead and smoke, party like it's 1999, or hide behind your couch- your choice. .
PS- regarding QVC- I have to wonder how many of those maroons got roped in buying "act now" 1 ounce Federated Mint "Ohio" silver bars for $135 dollars- with the spot price of silver being $17 bucks. As PT Barnum said- "there's a sucker born every minute".
Yeah and shut up Cal, Woody has a point. You don't make a conscious decision to "get" corona. Smoking involves a choice. And Vambo spouting an impossibility doesn't help his case saying smoking is worse. Sure it is. OOOHHHH so how you not going to get covid? Just maybe by making smart personal decisions? Or not smoking? DUH!!! I could (but I won't) post a poll Yahoo recently did on just how badly the covid crisis has been politicized, and the responses are damn near 100% predictable based on your political POV. Reason being, I don't want them to get any ideas the conspiracy theorists have that Bill Gates contributed $300 million to develop a vaccine so he could implant microchip tracking devices in the recipients, or covid is transmitted by 5G towers. Some of these guys will believe anything....
yeah like Donald Trump is raking in a huge windfall from hydroxychloroquine because he has some stock in some company that makes it. So do I by the way. BFD. Usually it's the guys on the left or the Neo left that are up in arms about being tracked. TDS and ODS make for some strange bedfellows huh?
I'll share this- one that I've never forgotten- regarding the above. Involving good old Congo Nick- our resident wild & crazy ER Doc that kept a significant Buck knife in his boot. They brought in a guy who was obviously DOA that had been shot in the chest. Nick rips him open with the knife and starts doing open heart massage- when he had been shot through the heart. He gives up after a minute and I ask Nick- "so what killed him?" Turns to me and said- "Larry, it was his bad lifestyle choice that got him." 100% true story. So go ahead and smoke, party like it's 1999, or hide behind your couch- your choice. .
PS- regarding QVC- I have to wonder how many of those maroons got roped in buying "act now" 1 ounce Federated Mint "Ohio" silver bars for $135 dollars- with the spot price of silver being $17 bucks. As PT Barnum said- "there's a sucker born every minute".
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Which one is Obama?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Same with trying to keep people out of work and not able to move around freely...good luck with that.
So you are part of the Live Free, and Die crowd. I don't have any problems with that. You responded before I could edit my post. Nice Yahoo article with a comprehensive national poll. What's worse, another 200,000 covid deaths, or another 30,000,000 Americans out of work for a year? I sure as hell know what your response would be without even asking. Call me "undecided". It covered a bunch of other questions- and the responses were amazingly predictable depending on what side of the political fence you happen to be on. I have news for you - the MAGA POV isn't the only one out there. You just might be singing another tune if a good friend or relative kicks off from the disease. I've said elsewhere, not in regard to the virus- but when you start doing serious mountaineering involving rock climbing- you're taking a calculated risk, a mistake could get you killed. I was damn lucky when I landed a 300+ pound boulder on my foot and didn't break it- it would have been call for the helicopter if I had... That said, If you think your personal virus risk is minimal- be my guest. But as Gipper said in the Browns Forum- we'll be more than happy to put flowers on your grave if you guess wrong.
So you are part of the Live Free, and Die crowd. I don't have any problems with that.
Hyperbole.
You responded before I could edit my post. Nice Yahoo article with a comprehensive national poll. What's worse, another 200,000 covid deaths, or another 30,000,000 Americans out of work for a year? I sure as hell know what your response would be without even asking. Call me "undecided". It covered a bunch of other questions- and the responses were amazingly predictable depending on what side of the political fence you happen to be on. I have news for you - the MAGA POV isn't the only one out there. You just might be singing another tune if a good friend or relative kicks off from the disease.
Ah yes, time to play the guilt trip card. If a friend or relative died from it I would be just as shocked and saddened as if he had died in a car accident. An unfortunate case of bad luck. Knowing what we know about this disease, he would have been in his 70's or 80's and had preexisting conditions. And yes age does make a difference.
I've said elsewhere, not in regard to the virus- but when you start doing serious mountaineering involving rock climbing- you're taking a calculated risk, a mistake could get you killed. I was damn lucky when I landed a 300+ pound boulder on my foot and didn't break it- it would have been call for the helicopter if I had...
That said, If you think your personal virus risk is minimal- be my guest. But as Gipper said in the Browns Forum- we'll be more than happy to put flowers on your grave if you guess wrong.
Both ambiguous and hyperbole. You're insinuating that if you catch COVID there's a great chance you're gonna die. That is completely false. The ambiguity is "personal virus risk". Do you mean the risk of catching it or the risk of dying from it? The chance he dies from it is extremely low. That is a fact.
What's your point in all of this anyway? That we should remain undecided and flip flop because you do? I have yet to read a post with so much doubletalk. That first sentence set the tone.
Spare me your MAGA POV rhetoric. There was a time when I went from being all in, to being undecided, to being highly skeptical...not due to the fact that I'm a conservative, but due to the facts and evidence that continue to pile up exposing this as an unwarranted hysteria.
The latest...A CDC report stating that COVID doesn't live long on surfaces after all. And you wonder why Dr. Birx said she doesn't trust anything the CDC says anymore.
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Or, ya know, one of those things actually being contagious
Again, amazing some are so politically biased it affects how they view an infectious disease and pandemic.
Scientific issues getting politicized is a problem. As stated in another thread, an increase in scientific illiteracy and misinformation is a danger to society. Hive mind / echo chambers online and more older folks that didn't come up with the internet and learn how to distinguish what a legitimate source is just adds to it.
The people falling for Facebook links and OANN links today are the ones getting scammed on QVC tomorrow
Yeah and shut up Cal, Woody has a point. You don't make a conscious decision to "get" corona. Smoking involves a choice. And Vambo spouting an impossibility doesn't help his case saying smoking is worse. Sure it is. OOOHHHH so how you not going to get covid? Just maybe by making smart personal decisions? Or not smoking? DUH!!! I could (but I won't) post a poll Yahoo recently did on just how badly the covid crisis has been politicized, and the responses are damn near 100% predictable based on your political POV. Reason being, I don't want them to get any ideas the conspiracy theorists have that Bill Gates contributed $300 million to develop a vaccine so he could implant microchip tracking devices in the recipients, or covid is transmitted by 5G towers. Some of these guys will believe anything....
I'll share this- one that I've never forgotten- regarding the above. Involving good old Congo Nick- our resident wild & crazy ER Doc that kept a significant Buck knife in his boot. They brought in a guy who was obviously DOA that had been shot in the chest. Nick rips him open with the knife and starts doing open heart massage- when he had been shot through the heart. He gives up after a minute and I ask Nick- "so what killed him?" Turns to me and said- "Larry, it was his bad lifestyle choice that got him." 100% true story. So go ahead and smoke, party like it's 1999, or hide behind your couch- your choice. .
PS- regarding QVC- I have to wonder how many of those maroons got roped in buying "act now" 1 ounce Federated Mint "Ohio" silver bars for $135 dollars- with the spot price of silver being $17 bucks. As PT Barnum said- "there's a sucker born every minute".
Yeah and shut up Cal, Woody has a point. You don't make a conscious decision to "get" corona. Smoking involves a choice. And Vambo spouting an impossibility doesn't help his case saying smoking is worse. Sure it is. OOOHHHH so how you not going to get covid? Just maybe by making smart personal decisions? Or not smoking? DUH!!! I could (but I won't) post a poll Yahoo recently did on just how badly the covid crisis has been politicized, and the responses are damn near 100% predictable based on your political POV. Reason being, I don't want them to get any ideas the conspiracy theorists have that Bill Gates contributed $300 million to develop a vaccine so he could implant microchip tracking devices in the recipients, or covid is transmitted by 5G towers. Some of these guys will believe anything....
no, Hoorta - his first line had a point - one was contagious and one wasn't - the rest of his post was far more stupid than you want to admit. That was MY POINT. He rarely ever has a legit point - name one time when you disagreed with woodpecker trolling.
Gosh, I don't remember one time. I never said the smoking vs covid thing. Go back and READ honestly.
"moderate" means only arguing with conservatives on the board and never criticizing anything a trolling lefty TDS poster says.
Gettin obvious to keen observers, I must say.
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