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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @westside-steve said:

    Did you have an opinion on the article? Or just wanted to bitch about ammoland?

    I think it mirrors my own opinion even though I was even more skeptical at the outset and remain so. It seemed to me you were less fearful at the beginning but have mood away from that position for whatever reason.

    WSS

    I'm not bitching about ammoland. 

    I'm pointing out a false equivalency

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    @mld-woody said:

    I'm not bitching about ammoland. 

    I'm pointing out a false equivalency

    Two of our board Democrats and one of our new board Democrats have used MSNBC articles.

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      Heres a couple of MAGA women?

      Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants Track You Through Vaccines

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        Heres a couple of MAGA women?

        Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants Track You Through Vaccines

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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        Heres a couple of MAGA women?

        Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants Track You Through Vaccines

        Anxious for those vaccines are we ?

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        http://doctorbob.com/2020/05/22/doubts-raised-over-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-after-all-of-the-monkeys-that-took-part-in-the-trial-are-found-to-have-contracted-the-disease/

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          I know, TDS, Soros, Q!   

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/21/how_fear_groupthink_drove_unnecessary_global_lockdowns_143253.html

            RCP is usually reasonably straight.

            I know it isn't ammoland or MSNBC.

            WSS

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            @westside-steve said:

            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/21/how_fear_groupthink_drove_unnecessary_global_lockdowns_143253.html

            RCP is usually reasonably straight.

            I know it isn't ammoland or MSNBC.

            WSS

            Fair enough Steve- but I don't totally agree with it....  Why do we have at least 3X more the number of cases than anyone else in the world?  Looking at the numbers- yeah even Sweden- If you get diagnosed with covid, and you're old- your odds of dying from it go way up- to the 4% range. I don't have any proof, but I'll hazard a guess the population in Sweden is a lot healthier than the USA, and outside of Stockholm the county is a whole lot of nothing- covid cases are concentrated in big cities, and Stockholm had their fair share.....  Though their point- maybe we should have gone about this differently, locked up us old codgers, and let the young 'uns run free- I can respect it. But it's water over the dam now, what's done is done.  That JH graph shows on a worldwide level- the pandemic is far from over. USA? The # of cases and deaths is trending down. We'll know in another week or two for sure if this national lock down was a big boo-boo.  Should we have traded off more short term deaths for faster long term herd immunity? We'll never know....  

            https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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              Heres a couple of MAGA women?

              Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants Track You Through Vaccines

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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Here's a couple of MAGA antivaxxer women?

              Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants Track You Through Vaccines

              Now don't falsely accuse those snowflake MAGAs. Though the antivaxx crowd is even more loony. Gates want to implant a microchip in you along with a covid vaccine.  😁  

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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Here's a couple of MAGA antivaxxer women?

                Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants Track You Through Vaccines

                Now don't falsely accuse those snowflake MAGAs. Though the antivaxx crowd is even more loony. Gates want to implant a microchip in you along with a covid vaccine.  😁  

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                @hoorta said:

                Now don't falsely accuse those snowflake MAGAs. Though the antivaxx crowd is even more loony. Gates want to implant a microchip in you along with a covid vaccine.  😁  

                Why, if you're not a leftist,  would you assume anti vaxxers to be predominantly  right-wing? 

                That's an interesting position for a person who has been strenuously  objecting to their characterization, on this board, as a leftist to be taking. 

                https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  US compared to Sweden, ok.  How do we compare in life expectancies, mortality rates and pretty much every health related metric?

                  Unfortunately we will never know what the country would’ve looked like had we simply just banned gatherings of 50 or more. 
                   

                  On the broader scope of fear mongering and using it to herd the masses. The playbook has been utilizing fear to get people in line for the better part of my life. 

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                    @hoorta said:

                    Now don't falsely accuse those snowflake MAGAs. Though the antivaxx crowd is even more loony. Gates want to implant a microchip in you along with a covid vaccine.  😁  

                    Why, if you're not a leftist,  would you assume anti vaxxers to be predominantly  right-wing? 

                    That's an interesting position for a person who has been strenuously  objecting to their characterization, on this board, as a leftist to be taking. 

                    https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001

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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    Why, if you're not a leftist,  would you assume anti vaxxers to be predominantly  right-wing? 

                    That's an interesting position for a person who has been strenuously  objecting to their characterization, on this board, as a leftist to be taking. 

                    https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001

                    This wasn't a left-right characterization. At least as far as the antivaxxers are concerned. Wackiness spans all political spectrums...  

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/21/how_fear_groupthink_drove_unnecessary_global_lockdowns_143253.html

                      RCP is usually reasonably straight.

                      I know it isn't ammoland or MSNBC.

                      WSS

                      Fair enough Steve- but I don't totally agree with it....  Why do we have at least 3X more the number of cases than anyone else in the world?  Looking at the numbers- yeah even Sweden- If you get diagnosed with covid, and you're old- your odds of dying from it go way up- to the 4% range. I don't have any proof, but I'll hazard a guess the population in Sweden is a lot healthier than the USA, and outside of Stockholm the county is a whole lot of nothing- covid cases are concentrated in big cities, and Stockholm had their fair share.....  Though their point- maybe we should have gone about this differently, locked up us old codgers, and let the young 'uns run free- I can respect it. But it's water over the dam now, what's done is done.  That JH graph shows on a worldwide level- the pandemic is far from over. USA? The # of cases and deaths is trending down. We'll know in another week or two for sure if this national lock down was a big boo-boo.  Should we have traded off more short term deaths for faster long term herd immunity? We'll never know....  

                      https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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                      @hoorta said:

                      Fair enough Steve- but I don't totally agree with it....  Why do we have at least 3X more the number of cases than anyone else in the world?  Looking at the numbers- yeah even Sweden- If you get diagnosed with covid, and you're old- your odds of dying from it go way up- to the 4% range. I don't have any proof, but I'll hazard a guess the population in Sweden is a lot healthier than the USA, and outside of Stockholm the county is a whole lot of nothing- covid cases are concentrated in big cities, and Stockholm had their fair share.....  Though their point- maybe we should have gone about this differently, locked up us old codgers, and let the young 'uns run free- I can respect it. But it's water over the dam now, what's done is done.  That JH graph shows on a worldwide level- the pandemic is far from over. USA? The # of cases and deaths is trending down. We'll know in another week or two for sure if this national lock down was a big boo-boo.  Should we have traded off more short term deaths for faster long term herd immunity? We'll never know....  

                      https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

                      https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

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                          @hoorta said:

                          Fair enough Steve- but I don't totally agree with it....  Why do we have at least 3X more the number of cases than anyone else in the world?  Looking at the numbers- yeah even Sweden- If you get diagnosed with covid, and you're old- your odds of dying from it go way up- to the 4% range. I don't have any proof, but I'll hazard a guess the population in Sweden is a lot healthier than the USA, and outside of Stockholm the county is a whole lot of nothing- covid cases are concentrated in big cities, and Stockholm had their fair share.....  Though their point- maybe we should have gone about this differently, locked up us old codgers, and let the young 'uns run free- I can respect it. But it's water over the dam now, what's done is done.  That JH graph shows on a worldwide level- the pandemic is far from over. USA? The # of cases and deaths is trending down. We'll know in another week or two for sure if this national lock down was a big boo-boo.  Should we have traded off more short term deaths for faster long term herd immunity? We'll never know....  

                          https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

                          https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

                          WSS

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

                          WSS

                          Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

                            WSS

                            Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

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                            @hoorta said:

                            Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

                            Democrats.

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                              @hoorta said:

                              Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

                              Democrats.

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                              @vambo said:

                              Democrats.

                               I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down. 😁 

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                                @vambo said:

                                Democrats.

                                 I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down. 😁 

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                                @hoorta said:

                                 I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down. 😁 

                                No they were all just put into Nursing Homes with Covid-19 Patients without being separated!?

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

                                  WSS

                                  Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

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                                  @hoorta said:

                                  Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

                                  Vambo take me to it but yes. Cuomo and de Blasio have done everything the Trump haters accuse him of having done. Almost everything. They said that a travel ban was an act of War. Anyway this is from Newsweek a known Trump hater so I doubt they are sugarcoating it. Bottom line is probably just Mass Hysteria and how a lot of people love to be involved in that. Makes them feel special.

                                  PS the Japanese are known to be a very clean bunch of people.

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                                    @vambo said:

                                    Democrats.

                                     I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down. 😁 

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                                    @hoorta said:

                                     I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down. 😁 

                                    No you don't know TDS guy..

                                    It's Democrats.

                                    How many deaths is your hero Deblasio responsible for by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes again? CNN didn't tell you that did they?

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                       I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down. 😁 

                                      No you don't know TDS guy..

                                      It's Democrats.

                                      How many deaths is your hero Deblasio responsible for by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes again? CNN didn't tell you that did they?

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                                      @gorka said:

                                      No you don't know TDS guy..

                                      It's Democrats.

                                      How many deaths is your hero Deblasio responsible for by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes again? CNN didn't tell you that did they?

                                      It sure as hell  wasn't  responsible for  X thousands. And Deblasio isn't  my hero either, so stuff it. 

                                      Pence\ Rubio 2020

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                                        @gorka said:

                                        No you don't know TDS guy..

                                        It's Democrats.

                                        How many deaths is your hero Deblasio responsible for by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes again? CNN didn't tell you that did they?

                                        It sure as hell  wasn't  responsible for  X thousands. And Deblasio isn't  my hero either, so stuff it. 

                                        Pence\ Rubio 2020

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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        It sure as hell  wasn't  responsible for  X thousands. And Deblasio isn't  my hero either, so stuff it. 

                                        Pence\ Rubio 2020

                                        Trump / Trump jr. 2024 2028...

                                        Eric Trump / Trump jr 2032 2036

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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          It sure as hell  wasn't  responsible for  X thousands. And Deblasio isn't  my hero either, so stuff it. 

                                          Pence\ Rubio 2020

                                          Trump / Trump jr. 2024 2028...

                                          Eric Trump / Trump jr 2032 2036

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                                          @vambo said:

                                          Trump / Trump jr. 2024 2028...

                                          Eric Trump / Trump jr 2032 2036

                                          This isn't all in the family.... Though you'd probably vote for Archie Bunker for President instead....  

                                          # Never Trump- I gave the guy a year in office to try and change my mind- but it went all downhill from there....  

                                          Ya see the problem with the MAGAs here is- it's beyond their ability to comprehend that you can be a true Republican- who thinks Trump is a petty, lying SOB who's unfit to serve as President.  

                                          Now he's on the warpath with Twitter for daring to fact check his outright lies.  See what I mean?  Probably not.  🙁  

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