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  • @orion said:

    Here's my take.  Sadly, it's the police that set the tone of racism in this country.  Yes, citizens do terrible racist things...but the police are the ones that set the example.  And too many of them are bullies and power mongers, who think that they don't have to follow the laws.  This type of activity has been going on all the way back to Wyatt Earp.....but now, we've all got video cameras in our pockets...

    Police chiefs can come out and say all the right things, but it's all blah, blah, blah......because there's too many peckerheaded policemen.  The police are no different than any other organization though, there's assholes in every profession...all the way up to and including priesthood and boy scout masters.  There's just a higher concentration in the police because that's where the bullies in life would gravitate towards.  That and the underworld.  

    Growing up, I instructed my son that the police are not your friends.  They are a necessary evil.  ( BTW, my little cousin is a policeman.  He's a heck of a great guy!  Made it to Sargent!  I love him to death! ) 

    Your take was one big pile of rubbish.  

    Do you wear your Black Lives Matter shirt in front of your cousin cop by any chance?  Your cousin cop exemplifies more the typical policeman, not what you paint them out to be.

    @gorka said:

    Your take was one big pile of rubbish. 

    I don't give a rats ass what you say or think on the subject!

  • I thought the kneeling thing was pretty savvy on Kaepernick and others’ part. It ruffled some feathers, raised awareness and got people talking. Unfortunately the narrative got bastardized in the process. 

    One thing that always fires me up is when people stick it to the Man. IMO that’s as American as it gets. Our founding fathers stuck it to the Man, our best revolutionaries stuck it to the Man, and quite frankly it’s our right, and l would go so far as to say our obligation, to stick it to the Man too if need be.

    From the Declaration of Independence:

    ”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    Those wigged out mofos got that part right. In layman’s terms, if the Man becomes a detriment to our basic rights, then it’s time to stick it to the Man. 

  • oh, boy. Here we go. So we can alter and abolish the deep state for what they have done - corrupted our entire government? Attacked our 2nd Amendment? Biden says he's coming for our guns? Like that?

    egad. no wonder this thread was finally moved.

  • oh, boy. Here we go. So we can alter and abolish the deep state for what they have done - corrupted our entire government? Attacked our 2nd Amendment? Biden says he's coming for our guns? Like that?

    egad. no wonder this thread was finally moved.

    @calfoxwc said:

    oh, boy. Here we go. So we can alter and abolish the deep state for what they have done - corrupted our entire government? Attacked our 2nd Amendment? Biden says he's coming for our guns? Like that?

    egad. no wonder this thread was finally moved.

    Dude, that’s exactly WHY we have the second amendment. To stick it to the man!  Duh...

  • @gorka said:

    That there is systemic racism/oppression is fake. A lie. You people believe it because the riots proved it?

    Those motherfucks couldn't give a rats ass about George Floyd as they made off with their TV sets. George who? Those people took the opportunity to do what they always wanted to. They were having fun.

    BLM is fake. Tell me who is the constituency that believes black lives don't matter? Gee, the only one I cant think of is, well,  BLM. Don't ever recall reading about them protesting in Chicago over blacks who continue to be murdered by other blacks. Not interested in that shit. The only time a black life  matters is when it is taken by a white cop, and take into consideration the fact that unjustified killings of blacks by cops are extremely rare.

    Who are you arguing with in your solo person ramblings over multiple post? Also did you mother cheat on your dad with a black man? The very first line of you absurd "statements" is an out right lie, unequivocally false ( I know this first hand), and on a level of stupidity only rivaled by our resident troll nickers.It also show you have an extreme detachment from reality.  I'm sure you bring out some junk science (that everyone should ignore) to back up said lies because that what "you" people do. Probably these will lack per capitol or context that you cherry picked from nutjobs on Infowars or some Russian owned new networks like Oan or whatever the fuck it called.The rest of bile you spiel just makes you look like a racist dickhead and I truly feel bad for your neighbors or anyone that has to be around. You are clearly are an unpleasantly person, unstable liar,  that downs bleach. You probably don't even spring for the good lime-scented stuff just plain jane Clorox. Anyhow like my momma use to says you can't unteach stupid. Enjoy your misery day, I have a date with my kids in my backyard.

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    Who are you arguing with in your solo person ramblings over multiple post? Also did you mother cheat on your dad with a black man? The very first line of you absurd "statements" is an out right lie, unequivocally false ( I know this first hand), and on a level of stupidity only rivaled by our resident troll nickers.It also show you have an extreme detachment from reality.  I'm sure you bring out some junk science (that everyone should ignore) to back up said lies because that what "you" people do. Probably these will lack per capitol or context that you cherry picked from nutjobs on Infowars or some Russian owned new networks like Oan or whatever the fuck it called.The rest of bile you spiel just makes you look like a racist dickhead and I truly feel bad for your neighbors or anyone that has to be around. You are clearly are an unpleasantly person, unstable liar,  that downs bleach. You probably don't even spring for the good lime-scented stuff just plain jane Clorox. Anyhow like my momma use to says you can't unteach stupid. Enjoy your misery day, I have a date with my kids in my backyard.

    what did you try to say there pussie?

    to the casual observer it looks like a lot of hair on fire rants from 4 years ago... 

    Id be careful with the "unpleasant person" claim  because the date with your kids might be stayed if the parole officer finds out 

    youve been threatening people again... LOL

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    They should also take watered down law school type courses (Criminal Procedure, Evidence) there are charges thrown out everyday and evidence suppressed over simple mistakes

    i have family in law enforcement.  There are all bright.  One even has a Masters Degree. They take there work seriously and they are extremely fair people in their day to day life. 

    I think most do to some degree, but that would be post hire.

    The DA isn't happy with the police when they botch something they can't enter in to evidence.  Nobody wants to let bad guys walk, but sometimes that happens.  Mistakes can be made.  No DA is going to press forward without evidence or knows the judge is going to have no choice but to throw it out for one reason or another.

    That is the beauty our system.  The defendant doesn't have to prove anything.  Innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state.

    @ballpeen said:

    I think most do to some degree, but that would be post hire.

    The DA isn't happy with the police when they botch something they can't enter in to evidence.  Nobody wants to let bad guys walk, but sometimes that happens.  Mistakes can be made.  No DA is going to press forward without evidence or knows the judge is going to have no choice but to throw it out for one reason or another.

    That is the beauty our system.  The defendant doesn't have to prove anything.  Innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state.

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

  • Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

    If we're going to have people here posting negative, hateful comments against Browns players for peacefully protesting you might as well save us the trouble and leave now. 

    Based on Goodell admitting the NFL was wrong on this issue in the past, I think they'll have the balls to go against Trump. As a result, plus with everything else going on, you're going to see players taking a knee. I reference Jarvis and OBJ as they were just in the players' video on the issue. 

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

    Otherwise we're in for another long season of some awful and embarrassing takes on here.

    @mld-woody said:

    Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

     oh there's certainly plenty of bullshit and this protest is the biggest sticking turd of the pile. You want to bring attention to something? A career criminal gets killed by police officer and the country is in flames. That's not enough attention for you woodpecker? Why not bring attention to the actually innocent people who have died at the hands of these rioting sons of bitches? Or the fact that for everyone person wrongly killed by the police there are literally thousands gunned down by people of their own color in the streets? But you don't give a shit about that.

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

     Drew Brees didn't admit any fucking mistake he was forced to do that and you know it. The left loves to do shit like that force people to apologize for shit they shouldn't apologize for. Rodger Goodell can blow me too.

     We were all shocked and outraged by the death of George Floyd regardless of the fact he was little more than a thug. nobody seems to care about the innocent people who were murdered by your buddies.

    WSS

  • I just noticed this trash was dumped in the political board where it belongs in the first place. Apparently the Woodpecker is trying to spread his political beliefs across the world. ?

    WSS

  • The victim shaming train you and others have hopped on, while absolutely predictable, is pathetic.

    If you think Brees was forced, and put no stock into the conversations he undoubtedly had with many African Americans I'm sure he's grown close to in the locker room over the years, then I'm not going to convince you. 

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

  • The victim shaming train you and others have hopped on, while absolutely predictable, is pathetic.

    If you think Brees was forced, and put no stock into the conversations he undoubtedly had with many African Americans I'm sure he's grown close to in the locker room over the years, then I'm not going to convince you. 

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

    @mld-woody said:

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

    Rightly so. By the way, even though I know you don't care....

    https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/amp#aoh=15919645930157&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

    And that was a week ago.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

    Rightly so. By the way, even though I know you don't care....

    https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/amp#aoh=15919645930157&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

    And that was a week ago.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Rightly so. By the way, even though I know you don't care....

    https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/amp#aoh=15919645930157&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

    And that was a week ago.

    WSS

    Chicago had 18 murders in a 24 hour period on May 31st this year.

    The deadliest day in that city’s history in the past 60 years.

    I guess Black lives don’t matter to other Black lives...and that’s a shame.


    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-deadliest-day-violence-murder-history-police-crime

  • Why can't these athletes protest during off season it would draw media attention and they make millions why cant they if they are so worried invest back into those communities hit hardest.

  • Aaaaaaand now it's locked / move

    Well it was fun. I appreciate the level headed responses we got while it lasted. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Aaaaaaand now it's locked / move

    Well it was fun. I appreciate the level headed responses we got while it lasted. 

    Well it was interesting for a page. But the right wing nutjobs had to start posting. Oh well.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Aaaaaaand now it's locked / move

    Well it was fun. I appreciate the level headed responses we got while it lasted. 

    Well it was interesting for a page. But the right wing nutjobs had to start posting. Oh well.

    @cccjwh said:

    Well it was interesting for a page. But the right wing nutjobs had to start posting. Oh well.

    If you only want to hear people opinions that agree with you use the PM function why post in an open public forum?

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

     oh there's certainly plenty of bullshit and this protest is the biggest sticking turd of the pile. You want to bring attention to something? A career criminal gets killed by police officer and the country is in flames. That's not enough attention for you woodpecker? Why not bring attention to the actually innocent people who have died at the hands of these rioting sons of bitches? Or the fact that for everyone person wrongly killed by the police there are literally thousands gunned down by people of their own color in the streets? But you don't give a shit about that.

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

     Drew Brees didn't admit any fucking mistake he was forced to do that and you know it. The left loves to do shit like that force people to apologize for shit they shouldn't apologize for. Rodger Goodell can blow me too.

     We were all shocked and outraged by the death of George Floyd regardless of the fact he was little more than a thug. nobody seems to care about the innocent people who were murdered by your buddies.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

     oh there's certainly plenty of bullshit and this protest is the biggest sticking turd of the pile. You want to bring attention to something? A career criminal gets killed by police officer and the country is in flames. That's not enough attention for you woodpecker? Why not bring attention to the actually innocent people who have died at the hands of these rioting sons of bitches? Or the fact that for everyone person wrongly killed by the police there are literally thousands gunned down by people of their own color in the streets? But you don't give a shit about that.

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

     Drew Brees didn't admit any fucking mistake he was forced to do that and you know it. The left loves to do shit like that force people to apologize for shit they shouldn't apologize for. Rodger Goodell can blow me too.

     We were all shocked and outraged by the death of George Floyd regardless of the fact he was little more than a thug. nobody seems to care about the innocent people who were murdered by your buddies.

    WSS

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  • @ballpeen said:

    I think most do to some degree, but that would be post hire.

    The DA isn't happy with the police when they botch something they can't enter in to evidence.  Nobody wants to let bad guys walk, but sometimes that happens.  Mistakes can be made.  No DA is going to press forward without evidence or knows the judge is going to have no choice but to throw it out for one reason or another.

    That is the beauty our system.  The defendant doesn't have to prove anything.  Innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state.

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

    @vambo said:

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

    A conformation hearing and a trial in court are different.  Much of what Kavanaugh was asked and accused of would have never been allowed by the trial judge. The questioning would have stopped quickly if it continued with the attorney being held in contempt of court and removed from the courtroom and placed in a holding chamber until the judge came back to decide what s/he was going to do with that person.

  • @vambo said:

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

    A conformation hearing and a trial in court are different.  Much of what Kavanaugh was asked and accused of would have never been allowed by the trial judge. The questioning would have stopped quickly if it continued with the attorney being held in contempt of court and removed from the courtroom and placed in a holding chamber until the judge came back to decide what s/he was going to do with that person.

    @ballpeen said:

    A conformation hearing and a trial in court are different.  Much of what Kavanaugh was asked and accused of would have never been allowed by the trial judge. The questioning would have stopped quickly if it continued with the attorney being held in contempt of court and removed from the courtroom and placed in a holding chamber until the judge came back to decide what s/he was going to do with that person.

    Thanks

  • Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.