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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    They should also take watered down law school type courses (Criminal Procedure, Evidence) there are charges thrown out everyday and evidence suppressed over simple mistakes

    i have family in law enforcement.  There are all bright.  One even has a Masters Degree. They take there work seriously and they are extremely fair people in their day to day life. 

    I think most do to some degree, but that would be post hire.

    The DA isn't happy with the police when they botch something they can't enter in to evidence.  Nobody wants to let bad guys walk, but sometimes that happens.  Mistakes can be made.  No DA is going to press forward without evidence or knows the judge is going to have no choice but to throw it out for one reason or another.

    That is the beauty our system.  The defendant doesn't have to prove anything.  Innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state.

    @ballpeen said:

    I think most do to some degree, but that would be post hire.

    The DA isn't happy with the police when they botch something they can't enter in to evidence.  Nobody wants to let bad guys walk, but sometimes that happens.  Mistakes can be made.  No DA is going to press forward without evidence or knows the judge is going to have no choice but to throw it out for one reason or another.

    That is the beauty our system.  The defendant doesn't have to prove anything.  Innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state.

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

  • Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

    If we're going to have people here posting negative, hateful comments against Browns players for peacefully protesting you might as well save us the trouble and leave now. 

    Based on Goodell admitting the NFL was wrong on this issue in the past, I think they'll have the balls to go against Trump. As a result, plus with everything else going on, you're going to see players taking a knee. I reference Jarvis and OBJ as they were just in the players' video on the issue. 

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

    Otherwise we're in for another long season of some awful and embarrassing takes on here.

    @mld-woody said:

    Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

     oh there's certainly plenty of bullshit and this protest is the biggest sticking turd of the pile. You want to bring attention to something? A career criminal gets killed by police officer and the country is in flames. That's not enough attention for you woodpecker? Why not bring attention to the actually innocent people who have died at the hands of these rioting sons of bitches? Or the fact that for everyone person wrongly killed by the police there are literally thousands gunned down by people of their own color in the streets? But you don't give a shit about that.

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

     Drew Brees didn't admit any fucking mistake he was forced to do that and you know it. The left loves to do shit like that force people to apologize for shit they shouldn't apologize for. Rodger Goodell can blow me too.

     We were all shocked and outraged by the death of George Floyd regardless of the fact he was little more than a thug. nobody seems to care about the innocent people who were murdered by your buddies.

    WSS

  • I just noticed this trash was dumped in the political board where it belongs in the first place. Apparently the Woodpecker is trying to spread his political beliefs across the world. ?

    WSS

  • The victim shaming train you and others have hopped on, while absolutely predictable, is pathetic.

    If you think Brees was forced, and put no stock into the conversations he undoubtedly had with many African Americans I'm sure he's grown close to in the locker room over the years, then I'm not going to convince you. 

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

  • The victim shaming train you and others have hopped on, while absolutely predictable, is pathetic.

    If you think Brees was forced, and put no stock into the conversations he undoubtedly had with many African Americans I'm sure he's grown close to in the locker room over the years, then I'm not going to convince you. 

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

    @mld-woody said:

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

    Rightly so. By the way, even though I know you don't care....

    https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/amp#aoh=15919645930157&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

    And that was a week ago.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    This thread was doomed from the start, yes, but the turning point in it was clear.

    Rightly so. By the way, even though I know you don't care....

    https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/amp#aoh=15919645930157&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

    And that was a week ago.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Rightly so. By the way, even though I know you don't care....

    https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death/amp#aoh=15919645930157&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

    And that was a week ago.

    WSS

    Chicago had 18 murders in a 24 hour period on May 31st this year.

    The deadliest day in that city’s history in the past 60 years.

    I guess Black lives don’t matter to other Black lives...and that’s a shame.


    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-deadliest-day-violence-murder-history-police-crime

  • Why can't these athletes protest during off season it would draw media attention and they make millions why cant they if they are so worried invest back into those communities hit hardest.

  • Aaaaaaand now it's locked / move

    Well it was fun. I appreciate the level headed responses we got while it lasted. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Aaaaaaand now it's locked / move

    Well it was fun. I appreciate the level headed responses we got while it lasted. 

    Well it was interesting for a page. But the right wing nutjobs had to start posting. Oh well.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Aaaaaaand now it's locked / move

    Well it was fun. I appreciate the level headed responses we got while it lasted. 

    Well it was interesting for a page. But the right wing nutjobs had to start posting. Oh well.

    @cccjwh said:

    Well it was interesting for a page. But the right wing nutjobs had to start posting. Oh well.

    If you only want to hear people opinions that agree with you use the PM function why post in an open public forum?

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

     oh there's certainly plenty of bullshit and this protest is the biggest sticking turd of the pile. You want to bring attention to something? A career criminal gets killed by police officer and the country is in flames. That's not enough attention for you woodpecker? Why not bring attention to the actually innocent people who have died at the hands of these rioting sons of bitches? Or the fact that for everyone person wrongly killed by the police there are literally thousands gunned down by people of their own color in the streets? But you don't give a shit about that.

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

     Drew Brees didn't admit any fucking mistake he was forced to do that and you know it. The left loves to do shit like that force people to apologize for shit they shouldn't apologize for. Rodger Goodell can blow me too.

     We were all shocked and outraged by the death of George Floyd regardless of the fact he was little more than a thug. nobody seems to care about the innocent people who were murdered by your buddies.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit? 

     oh there's certainly plenty of bullshit and this protest is the biggest sticking turd of the pile. You want to bring attention to something? A career criminal gets killed by police officer and the country is in flames. That's not enough attention for you woodpecker? Why not bring attention to the actually innocent people who have died at the hands of these rioting sons of bitches? Or the fact that for everyone person wrongly killed by the police there are literally thousands gunned down by people of their own color in the streets? But you don't give a shit about that.

    Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.

     Drew Brees didn't admit any fucking mistake he was forced to do that and you know it. The left loves to do shit like that force people to apologize for shit they shouldn't apologize for. Rodger Goodell can blow me too.

     We were all shocked and outraged by the death of George Floyd regardless of the fact he was little more than a thug. nobody seems to care about the innocent people who were murdered by your buddies.

    WSS

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  • @ballpeen said:

    I think most do to some degree, but that would be post hire.

    The DA isn't happy with the police when they botch something they can't enter in to evidence.  Nobody wants to let bad guys walk, but sometimes that happens.  Mistakes can be made.  No DA is going to press forward without evidence or knows the judge is going to have no choice but to throw it out for one reason or another.

    That is the beauty our system.  The defendant doesn't have to prove anything.  Innocent until proven guilty. The burden is on the state.

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

    @vambo said:

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

    A conformation hearing and a trial in court are different.  Much of what Kavanaugh was asked and accused of would have never been allowed by the trial judge. The questioning would have stopped quickly if it continued with the attorney being held in contempt of court and removed from the courtroom and placed in a holding chamber until the judge came back to decide what s/he was going to do with that person.

  • @vambo said:

    Tell that to Brett Kavanaugh.

    A conformation hearing and a trial in court are different.  Much of what Kavanaugh was asked and accused of would have never been allowed by the trial judge. The questioning would have stopped quickly if it continued with the attorney being held in contempt of court and removed from the courtroom and placed in a holding chamber until the judge came back to decide what s/he was going to do with that person.

    @ballpeen said:

    A conformation hearing and a trial in court are different.  Much of what Kavanaugh was asked and accused of would have never been allowed by the trial judge. The questioning would have stopped quickly if it continued with the attorney being held in contempt of court and removed from the courtroom and placed in a holding chamber until the judge came back to decide what s/he was going to do with that person.

    Thanks

  • Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.

  • I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.

    I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.

  • I can't find the original tweet. I'm thinking this is bullshit. <update>It's from a private account on Instagram, so who knows. 

  • I have a hard time thinking a kid from Texas whose middle name is Reagan is going to do this. 

  • Well if it is fake. Congrats to the guy getting all the clicks. Schefter picked it up.

  • Who cares?