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  • @axe said:

    Shall we go all grammar nazi on this post? ?

    Speaking of Nazi, there's plenty of you guys on this forum. Sorry I graduated from college and can form a coherent sentence without numerous grammar mistakes, the correct syntax, and while doing so outing someone that's clearly on Chris Hansen radar. "Nite" /s

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    Speaking of Nazi, there's plenty of you guys on this forum. Sorry I graduated from college and can form a coherent sentence without numerous grammar mistakes, the correct syntax, and while doing so outing someone that's clearly on Chris Hansen radar. "Nite" /s

    Yet you don't know the difference between "You", "Your" and "You're"..

    Michigan grad I take it  ?

  • @fairhooker11 said:

    are you for fucking real? 

    do the rest of us a favor and sign up for a self awareness class

    after your parole board mandated  anger management year long seminar is complete . 

    It's ok bro... I have been renting space in his feeble mind for a couple of years now..  Which isn't all that hard to do.. He's more concerned with "Taking people down and spreading negativity. I deal in reality.. People like him are as phony 4 dollar bill.... They do an awful lot of talking and produce absolutely 0.. Remember... The ones who speak the loudest are the loneliest pieces of shit and are meek.... He probably sits in his parents basement drinking bud light and pissing himself... In the end.. No one cares...

    @nickers said:

    It's ok bro... I have been renting space in his feeble mind for a couple of years now..  Which isn't all that hard to do..

    What is hard to do is to quote an insult correctly, apparently.

    It's not "renting space in someone's head', you nitwit, it is "I'm living in his head rent-free" or "I'm so far in his head I SHOULD have to pay rent". 

    ?

  • A AP1

    "If you're not with us you're against us" is a forced dilemma. It's a fallacy that drives an individual to a side. Silence does not equal violence, and to shove that down anyone's throat is misguided and wrong.

     
    If Baker wants to kneel there's nothing anyone can do about it. If Baker wants to stand, the social media mob will come after him and shame him for being a bigot.
     
    Shaming him to a knee is as tyrannical as forcing individuals believe this is a two-sided issue.

    @ap1 said:

    "If you're not with us you're against us" is a forced dilemma. It's a fallacy that drives an individual to a side. Silence does not equal violence, and to shove that down anyone's throat is misguided and wrong.

     
    If Baker wants to kneel there's nothing anyone can do about it. If Baker wants to stand, the social media mob will come after him and shame him for being a bigot.
     
    Shaming him to a knee is as tyrannical as forcing individuals believe this is a two-sided issue.

    You are right.

    No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once. 

  • @cccjwh said:

    Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.

    Glad to help.

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative.  The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.

    Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.

    @gorka said:

    Glad to help.

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative.  The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.

    Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.

    Let the butthurt wash over you, Sebastian. 

  • @cccjwh said:

    Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.

    Glad to help.

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative.  The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.

    Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.

    @gorka said:

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    That’s actually not too far off. I would see it as more of an acknowledgement instead of an apology. Sort of like saying “I may not be able to relate, but l acknowledge your life has been significantly different than my own. I support you in improving that.”

    I see it as a positive. When you have a few million people screaming that there’s a problem, for those that don’t have that same problem it’s a decent human response to ask what the problem is and how can we help.

  • I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.

    I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.

    @bob806 said:

    I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.

    I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.

    Bob, a LOT of folks feel that way. Kneeling during our national anthem, etc, just alienates folks who DO care about racism, but do NOT equate it with our Flag, or our national anthem. I see more like "I make millions of dollars, but I don't want the poor folks to think I don't care, so I'm gonna act out in public".

    It's easy to ignore, I can just set the DVR to 5 minutes after the game starts, or fast forward it ... whatever. My biggest concern is if they quit making Frostie or Barq's rootbeer this fall because of the corona virus.

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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    After some deep thought and soul searching, I'm getting back on Amazon.com : JOCHA 2 Pieces Donald Trump for President 2020 Flag Keep  America Great Flag (All Aboard The Trump Train) : Garden & Outdoor

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  • @ap1 said:

    "If you're not with us you're against us" is a forced dilemma. It's a fallacy that drives an individual to a side. Silence does not equal violence, and to shove that down anyone's throat is misguided and wrong.

     
    If Baker wants to kneel there's nothing anyone can do about it. If Baker wants to stand, the social media mob will come after him and shame him for being a bigot.
     
    Shaming him to a knee is as tyrannical as forcing individuals believe this is a two-sided issue.

    You are right.

    No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You are right.

    No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once. 

    The difference between people that have angry words for kneelers and the actions of people that destroy businesses, burn properties, tear down statues and vandalize neighborhoods and city blocks is night and day.

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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    After some deep thought and soul searching, I'm getting back on Amazon.com : JOCHA 2 Pieces Donald Trump for President 2020 Flag Keep  America Great Flag (All Aboard The Trump Train) : Garden & Outdoor

    We’ll look at your application and get back to you.....

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  • @bob806 said:

    I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.

    I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.

    Bob, a LOT of folks feel that way. Kneeling during our national anthem, etc, just alienates folks who DO care about racism, but do NOT equate it with our Flag, or our national anthem. I see more like "I make millions of dollars, but I don't want the poor folks to think I don't care, so I'm gonna act out in public".

    It's easy to ignore, I can just set the DVR to 5 minutes after the game starts, or fast forward it ... whatever. My biggest concern is if they quit making Frostie or Barq's rootbeer this fall because of the corona virus.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Bob, a LOT of folks feel that way. Kneeling during our national anthem, etc, just alienates folks who DO care about racism, but do NOT equate it with our Flag, or our national anthem. I see more like "I make millions of dollars, but I don't want the poor folks to think I don't care, so I'm gonna act out in public".

    It's easy to ignore, I can just set the DVR to 5 minutes after the game starts, or fast forward it ... whatever. My biggest concern is if they quit making Frostie or Barq's rootbeer this fall because of the corona virus.

    Calf, it only alienates you if you choose to be alienated by it. OR, you can do like Baker and others have done and take a step or 2 to acknowledge the problem, and then you can use that brain of yours to be part of an amicable solution. 

    Or you could worry about root beer. Really? Fucking root beer? 

  • @cccjwh said:

    Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.

    Glad to help.

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative.  The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.

    Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.

    @gorka said:

    Glad to help.

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative.  The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.

    Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.

    You are clearly the ignorant one.  And you are clearly the one nurturing false narratives.....all fueled by your hate, prejudice and ignorance. 

    The false narrative being that you see being "anti-racist"  as requiring that people kneel to black people and apologize for white privilege.

    Nothing of the sort, of course, is being asked.   What is being asked? 

    Simply that all people be treated decently and equally.   But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    You are right.

    No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once. 

    The difference between people that have angry words for kneelers and the actions of people that destroy businesses, burn properties, tear down statues and vandalize neighborhoods and city blocks is night and day.

    @ap1 said:

    The difference between people that have angry words for kneelers and the actions of people that destroy businesses, burn properties, tear down statues and vandalize neighborhoods and city blocks is night and day.

    I agree, the Tulsa race massacre is a part of American history that isn't publicized enough!

    And the tearing down statues is the same -- Everyone who fought "On The Side Of The South" was a terrorist fighting against America, period dot end of story.  Confederates remain the most coddled bunch of losers in the history of the world.  If police actually wanted to "fight for justice," they'd throw in prison and beat everyone flying or otherwise supporting the flag that represents nothing more than insurrection and the execution of both federal law enforcement and armed forces - you know, actual threats, unlike antifa.  It does also represent states rights -- the right of people within a state to enslave others.  The event kicking off the civil war was Northern sheriffs refusing to enforce the "rights" of slaveholders in Southern states to own black people.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Really?  You mean like  you hope that someone engages in sexual intercourse with him?   How nice and considerate of you.   Got anyone in mind?  (I guess he does have a wife...start with her)

    No not really. "Fuck him" was not meant to be taken literally. It is meant to be an angry rejection of someone or something. Similar to "go to hell".

    Think very hard  before you come back telling me I can't recognize sarcasm.

    @gorka said:

    No not really. "Fuck him" was not meant to be taken literally. It is meant to be an angry rejection of someone or something. Similar to "go to hell".

    Think very hard  before you come back telling me I can't recognize sarcasm.

    I am not being sarcastic at all.  How about thinking very hard about the words you say.  Just how did  a directive to go have sexual intercourse morph into an "angry rejection or someone or something?"   I mean, after all there if very little distinction between  "I want to fuck you"  and "Fuck you", isn't there? 

  • Interesting that  over the last 18 hours on this board that this is the ONLY thread to have any posts submitted.  

    When did football take a back seat on this forum? 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Conservatives thinking their feelings matter is already real, real old.  You're welcome to have a feeling, but you are not welcome to tell someone else what to do.

    It's his choice - not yours.  You absolutely have zero justification for trying to tell him "how" or "when" to protest - or not - you arrogant self-righteous ass.

    Nobody asked [or will ask] you if it's OK to protest.. because it's never going to be the right time or method or message or some other excuse to always ignore actual problems.

    TLDR: Get over yourself.

    What? 

    Holy crap, I'm not taking sides. I merely pointed out an observation about politics & sports.

    Also...what does TLDR mean?

    @bob806 said:

    What? 

    Holy crap, I'm not taking sides. I merely pointed out an observation about politics & sports.

    Also...what does TLDR mean?

    Too Long; Didn't Read

    Basically it's a way to put a summary at the end of a long post

    Or a response to mock a long post

  • "These players are disrespecting the flag! The NFL should force them to stand or fire them! They hate America!"

    * Baker says he'll kneel *

    "Well, uh, I'll just DVR it and skip the kneeling. Yeah. That'll show em"

  • @gorka said:

    Glad to help.

    Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..

    Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?

    Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative.  The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.

    Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.

    You are clearly the ignorant one.  And you are clearly the one nurturing false narratives.....all fueled by your hate, prejudice and ignorance. 

    The false narrative being that you see being "anti-racist"  as requiring that people kneel to black people and apologize for white privilege.

    Nothing of the sort, of course, is being asked.   What is being asked? 

    Simply that all people be treated decently and equally.   But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to. 

    @the-gipper said:

    But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to. 

    He's very much a fan of the "stay on the plantation" political concepts -- the notion that old conservative white people get to tell everyone else what they can do and when they can do it.  They're very uncomfortable getting slapped in the face with the reality that they don't have that power any more.

    The reason current protests have such force and broad support is because the protests are against BOTH parties -- this is precisely the reason for Biden's "If you don't support me, you ain't black" comment at the end of his interview with Charlemagne a couple wks ago.. Biden also represents the group who thinks they control the narrative and actually think they can/should tell Black people when it's OK to speak. [Nobody has forgotten Biden was one of the major architects of the war on black people  - excuse me, drugs.]

    It's why these protests are NOT just "one side" --- these protests represent a fracturing of the Democratic party coalition of civil rights/labor and money.