Browns players taking a knee
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are you for fucking real?
do the rest of us a favor and sign up for a self awareness class
after your parole board mandated anger management year long seminar is complete .
It's ok bro... I have been renting space in his feeble mind for a couple of years now.. Which isn't all that hard to do.. He's more concerned with "Taking people down and spreading negativity. I deal in reality.. People like him are as phony 4 dollar bill.... They do an awful lot of talking and produce absolutely 0.. Remember... The ones who speak the loudest are the loneliest pieces of shit and are meek.... He probably sits in his parents basement drinking bud light and pissing himself... In the end.. No one cares...
It's ok bro... I have been renting space in his feeble mind for a couple of years now.. Which isn't all that hard to do..
What is hard to do is to quote an insult correctly, apparently.
It's not "renting space in someone's head', you nitwit, it is "I'm living in his head rent-free" or "I'm so far in his head I SHOULD have to pay rent".
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"If you're not with us you're against us" is a forced dilemma. It's a fallacy that drives an individual to a side. Silence does not equal violence, and to shove that down anyone's throat is misguided and wrong.
If Baker wants to kneel there's nothing anyone can do about it. If Baker wants to stand, the social media mob will come after him and shame him for being a bigot.Shaming him to a knee is as tyrannical as forcing individuals believe this is a two-sided issue."If you're not with us you're against us" is a forced dilemma. It's a fallacy that drives an individual to a side. Silence does not equal violence, and to shove that down anyone's throat is misguided and wrong.
If Baker wants to kneel there's nothing anyone can do about it. If Baker wants to stand, the social media mob will come after him and shame him for being a bigot.Shaming him to a knee is as tyrannical as forcing individuals believe this is a two-sided issue.You are right.
No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once.
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Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.
Glad to help.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative. The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.
Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.
Glad to help.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative. The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.
Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.
Let the butthurt wash over you, Sebastian.
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Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.
Glad to help.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative. The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.
Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
That’s actually not too far off. I would see it as more of an acknowledgement instead of an apology. Sort of like saying “I may not be able to relate, but l acknowledge your life has been significantly different than my own. I support you in improving that.”
I see it as a positive. When you have a few million people screaming that there’s a problem, for those that don’t have that same problem it’s a decent human response to ask what the problem is and how can we help.
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I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.
I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.
I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.
I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.
Bob, a LOT of folks feel that way. Kneeling during our national anthem, etc, just alienates folks who DO care about racism, but do NOT equate it with our Flag, or our national anthem. I see more like "I make millions of dollars, but I don't want the poor folks to think I don't care, so I'm gonna act out in public".
It's easy to ignore, I can just set the DVR to 5 minutes after the game starts, or fast forward it ... whatever. My biggest concern is if they quit making Frostie or Barq's rootbeer this fall because of the corona virus.
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After some deep thought and soul searching, I'm getting back on

After some deep thought and soul searching, I'm getting back on


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"If you're not with us you're against us" is a forced dilemma. It's a fallacy that drives an individual to a side. Silence does not equal violence, and to shove that down anyone's throat is misguided and wrong.
If Baker wants to kneel there's nothing anyone can do about it. If Baker wants to stand, the social media mob will come after him and shame him for being a bigot.Shaming him to a knee is as tyrannical as forcing individuals believe this is a two-sided issue.You are right.
No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once.
You are right.
No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once.
The difference between people that have angry words for kneelers and the actions of people that destroy businesses, burn properties, tear down statues and vandalize neighborhoods and city blocks is night and day.
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After some deep thought and soul searching, I'm getting back on

After some deep thought and soul searching, I'm getting back on

We’ll look at your application and get back to you.....
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I love sports because it's normally a diversion, a place to get away from all the BS going on.
I'm not canceling my season tickets over this. But the constant politicizing of everything is getting real, real old.
Bob, a LOT of folks feel that way. Kneeling during our national anthem, etc, just alienates folks who DO care about racism, but do NOT equate it with our Flag, or our national anthem. I see more like "I make millions of dollars, but I don't want the poor folks to think I don't care, so I'm gonna act out in public".
It's easy to ignore, I can just set the DVR to 5 minutes after the game starts, or fast forward it ... whatever. My biggest concern is if they quit making Frostie or Barq's rootbeer this fall because of the corona virus.
Bob, a LOT of folks feel that way. Kneeling during our national anthem, etc, just alienates folks who DO care about racism, but do NOT equate it with our Flag, or our national anthem. I see more like "I make millions of dollars, but I don't want the poor folks to think I don't care, so I'm gonna act out in public".
It's easy to ignore, I can just set the DVR to 5 minutes after the game starts, or fast forward it ... whatever. My biggest concern is if they quit making Frostie or Barq's rootbeer this fall because of the corona virus.
Calf, it only alienates you if you choose to be alienated by it. OR, you can do like Baker and others have done and take a step or 2 to acknowledge the problem, and then you can use that brain of yours to be part of an amicable solution.
Or you could worry about root beer. Really? Fucking root beer?
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Not sure how long this will last on the main forum. But let's give it a try.
Glad to help.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative. The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.
Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.
Glad to help.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative. The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.
Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.
You are clearly the ignorant one. And you are clearly the one nurturing false narratives.....all fueled by your hate, prejudice and ignorance.
The false narrative being that you see being "anti-racist" as requiring that people kneel to black people and apologize for white privilege.
Nothing of the sort, of course, is being asked. What is being asked?
Simply that all people be treated decently and equally. But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to.
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You are right.
No one ever gave any athletes who chose to take a knee any shit. Not once.
The difference between people that have angry words for kneelers and the actions of people that destroy businesses, burn properties, tear down statues and vandalize neighborhoods and city blocks is night and day.
The difference between people that have angry words for kneelers and the actions of people that destroy businesses, burn properties, tear down statues and vandalize neighborhoods and city blocks is night and day.
I agree, the Tulsa race massacre is a part of American history that isn't publicized enough!
And the tearing down statues is the same -- Everyone who fought "On The Side Of The South" was a terrorist fighting against America, period dot end of story. Confederates remain the most coddled bunch of losers in the history of the world. If police actually wanted to "fight for justice," they'd throw in prison and beat everyone flying or otherwise supporting the flag that represents nothing more than insurrection and the execution of both federal law enforcement and armed forces - you know, actual threats, unlike antifa. It does also represent states rights -- the right of people within a state to enslave others. The event kicking off the civil war was Northern sheriffs refusing to enforce the "rights" of slaveholders in Southern states to own black people.
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Really? You mean like you hope that someone engages in sexual intercourse with him? How nice and considerate of you. Got anyone in mind? (I guess he does have a wife...start with her)
No not really. "Fuck him" was not meant to be taken literally. It is meant to be an angry rejection of someone or something. Similar to "go to hell".
Think very hard before you come back telling me I can't recognize sarcasm.
No not really. "Fuck him" was not meant to be taken literally. It is meant to be an angry rejection of someone or something. Similar to "go to hell".
Think very hard before you come back telling me I can't recognize sarcasm.
I am not being sarcastic at all. How about thinking very hard about the words you say. Just how did a directive to go have sexual intercourse morph into an "angry rejection or someone or something?" I mean, after all there if very little distinction between "I want to fuck you" and "Fuck you", isn't there?
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Interesting that over the last 18 hours on this board that this is the ONLY thread to have any posts submitted.
When did football take a back seat on this forum?
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Conservatives thinking their feelings matter is already real, real old. You're welcome to have a feeling, but you are not welcome to tell someone else what to do.
It's his choice - not yours. You absolutely have zero justification for trying to tell him "how" or "when" to protest - or not - you arrogant self-righteous ass.
Nobody asked [or will ask] you if it's OK to protest.. because it's never going to be the right time or method or message or some other excuse to always ignore actual problems.
TLDR: Get over yourself.
What?
Holy crap, I'm not taking sides. I merely pointed out an observation about politics & sports.
Also...what does TLDR mean?
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"These players are disrespecting the flag! The NFL should force them to stand or fire them! They hate America!"
* Baker says he'll kneel *
"Well, uh, I'll just DVR it and skip the kneeling. Yeah. That'll show em"
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Glad to help.
Baker may as well be kneeling before black people asking forgiveness for his "white privilege", and perhaps that is what he's really doing..
Isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing now?
Fuck all you ignorant liberal (redundant, I know) form of white trash who have been nurturing this false narrative. The facts don't matter, only your feelings do.
Hail to your Moses, Colin Kaperdick chosen by god to deliver his people.
You are clearly the ignorant one. And you are clearly the one nurturing false narratives.....all fueled by your hate, prejudice and ignorance.
The false narrative being that you see being "anti-racist" as requiring that people kneel to black people and apologize for white privilege.
Nothing of the sort, of course, is being asked. What is being asked?
Simply that all people be treated decently and equally. But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to.
But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to.
He's very much a fan of the "stay on the plantation" political concepts -- the notion that old conservative white people get to tell everyone else what they can do and when they can do it. They're very uncomfortable getting slapped in the face with the reality that they don't have that power any more.
The reason current protests have such force and broad support is because the protests are against BOTH parties -- this is precisely the reason for Biden's "If you don't support me, you ain't black" comment at the end of his interview with Charlemagne a couple wks ago.. Biden also represents the group who thinks they control the narrative and actually think they can/should tell Black people when it's OK to speak. [Nobody has forgotten Biden was one of the major architects of the war on black people - excuse me, drugs.]
It's why these protests are NOT just "one side" --- these protests represent a fracturing of the Democratic party coalition of civil rights/labor and money.
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But clearly those are concepts that you are opposed to.
He's very much a fan of the "stay on the plantation" political concepts -- the notion that old conservative white people get to tell everyone else what they can do and when they can do it. They're very uncomfortable getting slapped in the face with the reality that they don't have that power any more.
The reason current protests have such force and broad support is because the protests are against BOTH parties -- this is precisely the reason for Biden's "If you don't support me, you ain't black" comment at the end of his interview with Charlemagne a couple wks ago.. Biden also represents the group who thinks they control the narrative and actually think they can/should tell Black people when it's OK to speak. [Nobody has forgotten Biden was one of the major architects of the war on black people - excuse me, drugs.]
It's why these protests are NOT just "one side" --- these protests represent a fracturing of the Democratic party coalition of civil rights/labor and money.
He's very much a fan of the "stay on the plantation" political concepts -- the notion that old conservative white people get to tell everyone else what they can do and when they can do it. They're very uncomfortable getting slapped in the face with the reality that they don't have that power any more.
The reason current protests have such force and broad support is because the protests are against BOTH parties -- this is precisely the reason for Biden's "If you don't support me, you ain't black" comment at the end of his interview with Charlemagne a couple wks ago.. Biden also represents the group who thinks they control the narrative and actually think they can/should tell Black people when it's OK to speak. [Nobody has forgotten Biden was one of the major architects of the war on black people - excuse me, drugs.]
It's why these protests are explicitly NOT just "one side" --- these protests represent a fracturing of the Democrat party coalition of civil rights/labor and money.
I think that is a fallacy....to this extent: Do you really think that black people are going to look to the Republican party to represent their interests? I mean, seriously. The thing that you seem to be proposing is for a third party to be formed to primarily represent minority concerns, I see that possibility as simply causing this country to become more fractious.
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He's very much a fan of the "stay on the plantation" political concepts -- the notion that old conservative white people get to tell everyone else what they can do and when they can do it. They're very uncomfortable getting slapped in the face with the reality that they don't have that power any more.
The reason current protests have such force and broad support is because the protests are against BOTH parties -- this is precisely the reason for Biden's "If you don't support me, you ain't black" comment at the end of his interview with Charlemagne a couple wks ago.. Biden also represents the group who thinks they control the narrative and actually think they can/should tell Black people when it's OK to speak. [Nobody has forgotten Biden was one of the major architects of the war on black people - excuse me, drugs.]
It's why these protests are explicitly NOT just "one side" --- these protests represent a fracturing of the Democrat party coalition of civil rights/labor and money.
I think that is a fallacy....to this extent: Do you really think that black people are going to look to the Republican party to represent their interests? I mean, seriously. The thing that you seem to be proposing is for a third party to be formed to primarily represent minority concerns, I see that possibility as simply causing this country to become more fractious.
I think that is a fallacy....to this extent: Do you really think that black people are going to look to the Republican party to represent their interests? I mean, seriously. The thing that you seem to be proposing is for a third party to be formed to primarily represent minority concerns, I see that possibility as simply causing this country to become more fractious.
Not minority -- economic class. Yes, including white people. Until then, all groups that aren't represented can and should withhold their vote.. as has already begun to happen.
My working hypothesis is that the D party as currently constructed is millionaires whose sole purpose is to coopt and defenestrate all movements with any potential for substantive change.
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Not minority -- economic class. Yes, including white people. Until then, all groups that aren't represented can and should withhold their vote.. as has already begun to happen.
Uh, uhm, seriously? You are underrepresented....so withhold your vote? That is wholly anti-thetical. It is because the minority populace "withheld their vote" in 2016 and had no enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton that begat them Donald Trump. How counterproductive was that?
My working hypothesis is that the D party as currently constructed is millionaires whose sole purpose is to coopt and defenestrate all movements with any potential for substantive change.
Well, I think your hypothesis is about as valid as is alchemy. The Democratic Party nominated, and got elected an African-American President, and they made substantive change in a number of areas (particularly healthcare). There was some improvement in conditions for minorities made there, and the only reason more was not made was because Mitch McConnell vowed to block any efforts made by Obama to do anything.
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