Browns players taking a knee
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Play the Anthem before the players enter the field.
I have always asked: Why is it that it is sports that is the ONLY form of entertainment that the anthem is played? It is not played before you watch a movie, see a play, watch a concert (unless it is Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock)....it is only a sporting event. And not even all sporting events. They don't play it before a golf tournament, a tennis match, and I don't think they play it before boxing matches or like MMA events (I am only speculating here, never having gone to one of those live events.) Just team sports, it seems.
I have always asked: Why is it that it is sports that is the ONLY form of entertainment that the anthem is played? It is not played before you watch a movie, see a play, watch a concert (unless it is Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock)....it is only a sporting event. And not even all sporting events. They don't play it before a golf tournament, a tennis match, and I don't think they play it before boxing matches or like MMA events (I am only speculating here, never having gone to one of those live events.) Just team sports, it seems.
Honestly, that's a good question.
And I wonder if the people who were so up in arms about the kneeling in the first place stand at home when the National Anthem is played before a game when they are watching it on the TV.?
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History and art are 2 things l’m driven to protect.
I don’t really see the Confederacy as a big all encompassing thing
You are wildly objectively wrong with this. Those "pieces of art" were created explicitly to remind black people that they are controlled by white people - yes, to justify those towns installing Jim Crow laws. The text of the Cornerstone Speech [first link] shows that Southerners convinced themselves that slavery was good for black people [Just like.. Fox News watchers!] and that whites are naturally better than blacks. There's nothing you're protecting other than racist losers, dude. The Lost Cause is fake news. Poor people getting caught up in things..... is both life and not a justification.
Sure, "put them in museums" is one argument --- except that those statues were deliberately inexpensive. From the second link: It's like they went to the Wal-Mart for statues rather than actually commissioning something marble or granite. What's the difference between keeping for posterity all 143 of your grandmother's cheap and ugly mismatched chotchkys - or just putting her two Tiffany's on a shelf in your family room and landfilling the rest?
To be clear: I'm calling the South losers because they.. lost the war. Not only are their values repugnant, they got their butts whupped.
And the North will do it again each time the South rises again.
You are wildly objectively wrong with this. Those "pieces of art" were created explicitly to remind black people that they are controlled by white people - yes, to justify those towns installing Jim Crow laws. The text of the Cornerstone Speech [first link] shows that Southerners convinced themselves that slavery was good for black people [Just like.. Fox News watchers!] and that whites are naturally better than blacks. There's nothing you're protecting other than racist losers, dude. The Lost Cause is fake news. Poor people getting caught up in things..... is both life and not a justification.
Sure, "put them in museums" is one argument --- except that those statues were deliberately inexpensive. From the second link: It's like they went to the Wal-Mart for statues rather than actually commissioning something marble or granite. What's the difference between keeping for posterity all 143 of your grandmother's cheap and ugly mismatched chotchkys - or just putting her two Tiffany's on a shelf in your family room and landfilling the rest?
To be clear: I'm calling the South losers because they.. lost the war. Not only are their values repugnant, they got their butts whupped.
And the North will do it again each time the South rises again.
The last several posts l’ve read from you have been ginsu sharp. Man you’re really good at this. Poignant, researched and succinct. Hats off.
I threw that out for the duality of it all, and to take my licks. Art and history used to be honorable things to stand up for. Sort of a commentary of the times l suppose. It’s not easy being a middle aged dude relearning things. Thanks for the licks and keep it up.
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I have always asked: Why is it that it is sports that is the ONLY form of entertainment that the anthem is played? It is not played before you watch a movie, see a play, watch a concert (unless it is Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock)....it is only a sporting event. And not even all sporting events. They don't play it before a golf tournament, a tennis match, and I don't think they play it before boxing matches or like MMA events (I am only speculating here, never having gone to one of those live events.) Just team sports, it seems.
Honestly, that's a good question.
And I wonder if the people who were so up in arms about the kneeling in the first place stand at home when the National Anthem is played before a game when they are watching it on the TV.?
Honestly, that's a good question.
And I wonder if the people who were so up in arms about the kneeling in the first place stand at home when the National Anthem is played before a game when they are watching it on the TV.?
I’m an unabashed baseball fan, and the anthem is a big deal for me at games. It’s part of the experience. I certainly don’t stand at home watching on tv, but l get a real kick out of the pause in life at games.
Ever been in line for beer when the Anthem happens? Everything pauses. And everyone understands. There is zero boat rocking. It’s really really cool.
That’s the moment man. It all comes together. My ambitions are to want that pause for everyone.
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Honestly, that's a good question.
And I wonder if the people who were so up in arms about the kneeling in the first place stand at home when the National Anthem is played before a game when they are watching it on the TV.?
I’m an unabashed baseball fan, and the anthem is a big deal for me at games. It’s part of the experience. I certainly don’t stand at home watching on tv, but l get a real kick out of the pause in life at games.
Ever been in line for beer when the Anthem happens? Everything pauses. And everyone understands. There is zero boat rocking. It’s really really cool.
That’s the moment man. It all comes together. My ambitions are to want that pause for everyone.
I’m an unabashed baseball fan, and the anthem is a big deal for me at games. It’s part of the experience. I certainly don’t stand at home watching on tv, but l get a real kick out of the pause in life at games.
Ever been in line for beer when the Anthem happens? Everything pauses. And everyone understands. There is zero boat rocking. It’s really really cool.
That’s the moment man. It all comes together. My ambitions are to want that pause for everyone.
Is that it, or are you standing because that is what is socially expected? (And I'll admit, I get goosebumps EVERY time I hear the anthem live before an Indians game. I get what you are saying and to be honest, while I totally understand why guys are kneeling, I'm not sure I'd be able to do it. But I believe in the choice to do so)
Someone I know posted last night on Facebook about how "When I went to school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every day", basically alluding to that is why older people have more respect for the country, etc... I'm 44, and we said the Pledge every day too - and overwhelmingly the kids I did it with didn't give two fucks about it. Generally, that is what happends when you are forced to do something by rote.
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I’m an unabashed baseball fan, and the anthem is a big deal for me at games. It’s part of the experience. I certainly don’t stand at home watching on tv, but l get a real kick out of the pause in life at games.
Ever been in line for beer when the Anthem happens? Everything pauses. And everyone understands. There is zero boat rocking. It’s really really cool.
That’s the moment man. It all comes together. My ambitions are to want that pause for everyone.
Is that it, or are you standing because that is what is socially expected? (And I'll admit, I get goosebumps EVERY time I hear the anthem live before an Indians game. I get what you are saying and to be honest, while I totally understand why guys are kneeling, I'm not sure I'd be able to do it. But I believe in the choice to do so)
Someone I know posted last night on Facebook about how "When I went to school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every day", basically alluding to that is why older people have more respect for the country, etc... I'm 44, and we said the Pledge every day too - and overwhelmingly the kids I did it with didn't give two fucks about it. Generally, that is what happends when you are forced to do something by rote.
Is that it, or are you standing because that is what is socially expected? (And I'll admit, I get goosebumps EVERY time I hear the anthem live before an Indians game. I get what you are saying and to be honest, while I totally understand why guys are kneeling, I'm not sure I'd be able to do it. But I believe in the choice to do so)
Someone I know posted last night on Facebook about how "When I went to school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every day", basically alluding to that is why older people have more respect for the country, etc... I'm 44, and we said the Pledge every day too - and overwhelmingly the kids I did it with didn't give two fucks about it. Generally, that is what happends when you are forced to do something by rote.
Ah, we are the exact same age. You got an October birthday?
A bit of both l suppose to the first question. That’s actually a good question with rabbit hole answers for me personally.
I took my dad to a Tribe v Reds game once. He SAT during the Anthem. He’s a former hippie and very much marches to the beat of his own drum. We’ve never discussed that, but that’s seared into my brain. And it’s my dad. Stickin’ it to the Man.
Myself, l truly get a rise out of the Anthem at a game. My daughter is usually my game buddy, and afterwards we usually head nod or comment on the rendition. It’s not an easy song to sing and requires some range.
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Is that it, or are you standing because that is what is socially expected? (And I'll admit, I get goosebumps EVERY time I hear the anthem live before an Indians game. I get what you are saying and to be honest, while I totally understand why guys are kneeling, I'm not sure I'd be able to do it. But I believe in the choice to do so)
Someone I know posted last night on Facebook about how "When I went to school we said the Pledge of Allegiance every day", basically alluding to that is why older people have more respect for the country, etc... I'm 44, and we said the Pledge every day too - and overwhelmingly the kids I did it with didn't give two fucks about it. Generally, that is what happends when you are forced to do something by rote.
Ah, we are the exact same age. You got an October birthday?
A bit of both l suppose to the first question. That’s actually a good question with rabbit hole answers for me personally.
I took my dad to a Tribe v Reds game once. He SAT during the Anthem. He’s a former hippie and very much marches to the beat of his own drum. We’ve never discussed that, but that’s seared into my brain. And it’s my dad. Stickin’ it to the Man.
Myself, l truly get a rise out of the Anthem at a game. My daughter is usually my game buddy, and afterwards we usually head nod or comment on the rendition. It’s not an easy song to sing and requires some range.
Ah, we are the exact same age. You got an October birthday?
A bit of both l suppose to the first question. That’s actually a good question with rabbit hole answers for me personally.
I took my dad to a Tribe v Reds game once. He SAT during the Anthem. He’s a former hippie and very much marches to the beat of his own drum. We’ve never discussed that, but that’s seared into my brain. And it’s my dad. Stickin’ it to the Man.
Myself, l truly get a rise out of the Anthem at a game. My daughter is usually my game buddy, and afterwards we usually head nod or comment on the rendition. It’s not an easy song to sing and requires some range.
November! And I've heard many people talk about how difficult the anthem is to sing.
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Ah, we are the exact same age. You got an October birthday?
A bit of both l suppose to the first question. That’s actually a good question with rabbit hole answers for me personally.
I took my dad to a Tribe v Reds game once. He SAT during the Anthem. He’s a former hippie and very much marches to the beat of his own drum. We’ve never discussed that, but that’s seared into my brain. And it’s my dad. Stickin’ it to the Man.
Myself, l truly get a rise out of the Anthem at a game. My daughter is usually my game buddy, and afterwards we usually head nod or comment on the rendition. It’s not an easy song to sing and requires some range.
November! And I've heard many people talk about how difficult the anthem is to sing.
November! And I've heard many people talk about how difficult the anthem is to sing.
Oh goody, l got the age card here. Which is pretty much bullshit. These are all microcosms imo. Big pictures are what concern me. We got a window here, and as much as a pain in the ass as it is l want to carry who l can through it.
Where the fuck is Gorka?
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Speaking of Nazi, there's plenty of you guys on this forum. Sorry I graduated from college and can form a coherent sentence without numerous grammar mistakes, the correct syntax, and while doing so outing someone that's clearly on Chris Hansen radar. "Nite" /s
Yet you don't know the difference between "You", "Your" and "You're"..
Michigan grad I take it ?
Yet you don't know the difference between "You", "Your" and "You're"..
Michigan grad I take it ?
Hence the /s which means sarcasm Einstein. You probably hate him because of which side of the WW2 he sided on and the used of the scientific method. It ain't like the infowars junk stats "you" guy preach. Now trying saying that in a low Mr. T voice with some bass (which you may also hate because of the color of his skin) very slowly and try to sound out the letters "Einstein". Sorry that flew over your head in between the Lysol injections. It's OK if you run into some trouble, since we know you having a hard time reading and pronouncing things, my 3 years olds have the exact same problem. . Also I'm also a BearCat, what else do you know about me Nostradamus?
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Yet you don't know the difference between "You", "Your" and "You're"..
Michigan grad I take it ?
Hence the /s which means sarcasm Einstein. You probably hate him because of which side of the WW2 he sided on and the used of the scientific method. It ain't like the infowars junk stats "you" guy preach. Now trying saying that in a low Mr. T voice with some bass (which you may also hate because of the color of his skin) very slowly and try to sound out the letters "Einstein". Sorry that flew over your head in between the Lysol injections. It's OK if you run into some trouble, since we know you having a hard time reading and pronouncing things, my 3 years olds have the exact same problem. . Also I'm also a BearCat, what else do you know about me Nostradamus?
what else do you know about me Nostradamus?
That you're a dumbass.
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Wtf is a Gronk, why should I care? Should I be shaking in my boots while watching Ozarks? I not the one thinking of children getting sexual assaulted, that's not even something a normal functional adult brain would think of or joke about, but as usually you won't address it because like you fuhrer you Blame, Lie, and Deflect. Straight out of agent orange's playbook. That's on you Jared. That's on you, you simple minded fool. If you want to be a pervert keeps kids out of it. Like Nickers you are dumber then a bag of god damn mulch, but at least his the a god damn decency not to be a pedo about it. There's special place in hell for people like you. Anyhow I'm sure you'll post several responses rambling on and on, while having a solo argument with yourself, like the idiot before, but because I'll be watching Ozarks I'm not giving "2" fucks" about you, your detachment from reality, and self loathing. That's how little I think of you and you opinions. Adios!
sure thing Grimey
sure thing Grimey
This is your well thought out rebuttal for having pedophile tendencies? How sad. What does that even mean unless your using the English (UK) term? Next you call me a fag and I'll think you called me a cigarette. What an idiot.
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what else do you know about me Nostradamus?
That you're a dumbass.
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Go Bearcats
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sure thing Grimey
This is your well thought out rebuttal for having pedophile tendencies? How sad. What does that even mean unless your using the English (UK) term? Next you call me a fag and I'll think you called me a cigarette. What an idiot.
This is your well thought out rebuttal for having pedophile tendencies? How sad. What does that even mean unless your using the English (UK) term? Next you call me a fag and I'll think you called me a cigarette. What an idiot.
what axe said
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Good convo, I bleed and Dutch. I feel this is what’s lacking.
do I stand at home for the Anthem? No, of course not. So why is it such a big deal when other people kneel, when I sit?
Does it feel different in a crowd when the Anthem is played, like I Bleed talks about? To me, absolutely. Not sure what it is, maybe being around thousands of fellow countrymen, I guess.
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November! And I've heard many people talk about how difficult the anthem is to sing.
Oh goody, l got the age card here. Which is pretty much bullshit. These are all microcosms imo. Big pictures are what concern me. We got a window here, and as much as a pain in the ass as it is l want to carry who l can through it.
Where the fuck is Gorka?
Oh goody, l got the age card here. Which is pretty much bullshit. These are all microcosms imo. Big pictures are what concern me. We got a window here, and as much as a pain in the ass as it is l want to carry who l can through it.
Where the fuck is Gorka?
You mean... trying to be a voice of reason in a huge pile of horse shit?
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This is your well thought out rebuttal for having pedophile tendencies? How sad. What does that even mean unless your using the English (UK) term? Next you call me a fag and I'll think you called me a cigarette. What an idiot.
what axe said
what axe said
yep !
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Baker is his own man. To me this isn't even news, it's something Mary Kay would shout out. Whether people are republican or democratic, we all like football. I could care less if players decide to kneel for the anthem or not. Now winning, that's something I consider important. And this is a new era, without Freddie Kitchens or the Famous Sandwich actor, Hue Jackson.
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ESPN’s Ratings Are Absolutely Pathetic. The Number Of Viewers Is Shockingly Low
https://smokeroom.com/2018/06/19/espns-ratings-get-up-high-noon/
David Hookstead | Smoke Room Editor-in-Chief
ESPN’s ratings are officially laughably bad at this point.
Outkick the Coverage founder Clay Travis recently discussed the new numbers for “Get Up” and “High Noon.” They’re as bad as you could get for TV programs. Travis wrote:
When it comes to original programming ESPN is nothing short of a disaster so far this year. But even I was surprised by how much of a disaster things have become with two expensive new shows being aired live from New York City, WokeCenter AM, aka Get Up, and WokeCenter 3.0, aka High Noon/Low Noon/Everything Is Racist. The two shows aired on Thursday and Friday of last week and both hit all time viewership lows, failing to crack 200k viewers.
Yes, it really is this bad, ESPN can’t even get 200,000 people to watch its original shows on the main network.
Get Up, aka WokeCenter 2.0, had just 197,000 viewers this past Thursday from 7-10 am eastern, a whopping 33 percent off the ratings ESPN had for a traditional SportsCenter airing at the same time in the exact same June week last year. SportsCenter, which aired from Bristol and cost a fraction of the $35 million yearly budget of Get Up, had 294,000 viewers last year.
True story. There used to be a time when I could just hop on Facebook Live and get more than 200,000 viewers. All I had to do was hit record, and we were off to the races.
Now, to put that in perspective, ESPN has Disney money and still can’t produce content people care about. Think about how many people watch sports. So many people. Pretty much everybody I know is a sports fan. Yet, ESPN still can’t get even 200,000 people to watch their new shows. How pathetic is that? (RELATED: ESPN RATINGS GO UP AFTER TAKING JEMELE HILL OFF THE AIR)
Something has to change, right? You can’t just be dumping money into these programs if nobody is watching. I don’t think that’s how you make money in television. Of course, I’m not a TV executive, but I do know a thing or two about blowing money. Pouring millions of dollars into failing shows seems like a great way to make sure you never get your money back.
As always, it’s great to see ESPN fail. There’s literally no other business I’d rather see this happen to. They should just have stuck to sports. Instead, they had the become woke on every subject, and now people just don’t care what they have to say.
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I can almost taste your delicious tears, Sebastian.
Make sure to gargle some Clorox before you head out to Tulsa for your White Power... er... Trump Rally!
Not the kind of tears you think asshole lol
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Zombo said:
Well, it seems that all of the regulars that are interested had a whack at it, I'll send it to the Poli Board and merge it with the other kneeling post and let everyone that goes over there bludgeon this horse.
Die Hard & Gorka ... You might need a ComeToJesus moment. Not judging ... Just saying ... Gotta suck to carry hate in your heart.
Zombo
Lots of my best friends and people who I love have fucked up ideas about things.
But again I call bullshit on the fake idea that these protests are meant to draw attention to police brutality. If they were seriously interested in making Society better they would protest the murders the crime Etc going on in the inner cities each and every day. But they don't care. Which sucks no matter which political party you're in.
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