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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    That sucks.  Looks like the warm/hot weather is having no effect.

    But wait...didn't the expert on everything say it was just going to disappear with the summer heat? 

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    @the-gipper said:

    But wait...didn't the expert on everything say it was just going to disappear with the summer heat? 

    these so called experts are morons.....wasn't the virus escalating in s korea or one of those countries out there where the weather is hot in jan and feb....duh.....

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      @the-gipper said:

      But wait...didn't the expert on everything say it was just going to disappear with the summer heat? 

      these so called experts are morons.....wasn't the virus escalating in s korea or one of those countries out there where the weather is hot in jan and feb....duh.....

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      @browns52 said:

      these so called experts are morons.....wasn't the virus escalating in s korea or one of those countries out there where the weather is hot in jan and feb....duh.....

      South Korea is cold as hell in Jan and Feb.  I think you're thinking of Australia which is in the southern hemisphere.

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        @the-gipper said:

        But wait...didn't the expert on everything say it was just going to disappear with the summer heat? 

        these so called experts are morons.....wasn't the virus escalating in s korea or one of those countries out there where the weather is hot in jan and feb....duh.....

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @browns52 said:

        these so called experts are morons.....wasn't the virus escalating in s korea or one of those countries out there where the weather is hot in jan and feb....duh.....

        "Those" experts are just one guy that I know of.  And, yea, you need to get yourself a map or a globe.  The dividing line between North and South Korea is the 38th parallel,    which in the US  would be about the latitude of Lexington KY,   St. Louis,  KC, Denver, Salt Lake

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          This thing about warm weather came out in Feb-March I believe. At the time I looked at data from Chile, Brazil and Argentina, which was having temperatures of 80+. Just like Australia, they were experiencing more and more cases of Covid-19. That temperature thing was thrown out to the public, like a lot of other crap, with little to no facts backing it up.

          I also remember Thailand saying in February that they found a cure based upon mixing some herbs together.

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            Joined the group of "quit listening to these NFL media morons".. like weeks ago.. All Football Media has one sole purpose, and that's to sell &  promote the sport that pays them'..Can't say I don't blame them😉... but..

            Each teams players, to the top of the football chain, have wives, kids, family & a short lifetime of loot... Sooo, missing one pandemic season might become on their* choice?

            Too many smart,sharp guys in this business of the likes of John Harbaugh,  telling Roger that "your 8 page training camp memo are not suitable in NFL camps"

            just my opinion, but JC Tretter in pressers & media events, has been outstanding in his early tender as head of the players union... ?

            Still time, to mend some rules.. https://brownszone.com/2020/06/14/commentary-memos-are-great-but-nfl-still-has-plenty-of-issues-to-solve-before-players-return/     

            I've seen articles of special masking/ newly formed Oakley face shields.. all in testing..

            I still have slim hopes for a season ?.. but the opening of training camps, with 2 Pre-season games... may be enough to pull the plug?.. or... Are You Ready for Some ?? ?  

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              This thing about warm weather came out in Feb-March I believe. At the time I looked at data from Chile, Brazil and Argentina, which was having temperatures of 80+. Just like Australia, they were experiencing more and more cases of Covid-19. That temperature thing was thrown out to the public, like a lot of other crap, with little to no facts backing it up.

              I also remember Thailand saying in February that they found a cure based upon mixing some herbs together.

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              @barry said:

              That temperature thing was thrown out to the public, like a lot of other crap, with little to no facts backing it up.

              That depends upon who one was listening to.

              The medical scientists that I watched and read said that they were 'hoping' that the hot weather would have an affect like it does with the flu but there was no telling if it would or not.

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                I have a bad feeling that there isn't going to be a 2020 NFL season.

                There was fear that the second wave would hit during the season... but the first wave won't go away. In some places, there's an uptick. 

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                  @barry said:

                  That temperature thing was thrown out to the public, like a lot of other crap, with little to no facts backing it up.

                  That depends upon who one was listening to.

                  The medical scientists that I watched and read said that they were 'hoping' that the hot weather would have an affect like it does with the flu but there was no telling if it would or not.

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                  @orion said:

                  That depends upon who one was listening to.

                  The medical scientists that I watched and read said that they were 'hoping' that the hot weather would have an affect like it does with the flu but there was no telling if it would or not.

                  One reason why the colds and flu every year go down in the summer is that the kids aren't in school and people aren't as cooped up in warm houses going into fall and winter.

                  This year will be different because it is a highly contagious pandemic with NO vaccine yet.  If they found an effective vaccine it will still take months or longer to get it in 300,000,000 people in the USA......minus the idiots that don't believe in vaccines.

                  ......I wouldn't bet on any 2020 contact sports.

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                    @barry said:

                    That temperature thing was thrown out to the public, like a lot of other crap, with little to no facts backing it up.

                    That depends upon who one was listening to.

                    The medical scientists that I watched and read said that they were 'hoping' that the hot weather would have an affect like it does with the flu but there was no telling if it would or not.

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                    @orion said:

                    That depends upon who one was listening to.

                    The medical scientists that I watched and read said that they were 'hoping' that the hot weather would have an affect like it does with the flu but there was no telling if it would or not.

                    I was talking about the anti-science people who were using it as one of many excuses to downplay the virus.

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                      @orion said:

                      That depends upon who one was listening to.

                      The medical scientists that I watched and read said that they were 'hoping' that the hot weather would have an affect like it does with the flu but there was no telling if it would or not.

                      One reason why the colds and flu every year go down in the summer is that the kids aren't in school and people aren't as cooped up in warm houses going into fall and winter.

                      This year will be different because it is a highly contagious pandemic with NO vaccine yet.  If they found an effective vaccine it will still take months or longer to get it in 300,000,000 people in the USA......minus the idiots that don't believe in vaccines.

                      ......I wouldn't bet on any 2020 contact sports.

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                      @mjp28 said:

                      One reason why the colds and flu every year go down in the summer is that the kids aren't in school and people aren't as cooped up in warm houses going into fall and winter.

                      Also, your body doesn't have to work so hard just to keep you warm like the winter.  It's got plenty of resources to draw from. 

                      Supposedly the humidity has something to do with it also.  The flu doesn't like the heat and humidity (seems counterintuitive to me).  Apparently COVID doesn't care what the ambient temps are.  I have noticed though that some of the southern hemisphere countries are getting hit harder now that they're headed into winter.

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                        I have a bad feeling that there isn't going to be a 2020 NFL season.

                        There was fear that the second wave would hit during the season... but the first wave won't go away. In some places, there's an uptick. 

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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        I have a bad feeling that there isn't going to be a 2020 NFL season.

                        There was fear that the second wave would hit during the season... but the first wave won't go away. In some places, there's an uptick. 

                        https://www.theblaze.com/news/coronavirus-has-significantly-weakened-could-disappear-without-vaccine-top-doctor-reveals

                        No there's not. There is only an "uptick" in positive tests but that can be because there is more testing going on, but the tests were never proven accurate to begin with. 

                        The # of people dying is dropping big time. 

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          I have a bad feeling that there isn't going to be a 2020 NFL season.

                          There was fear that the second wave would hit during the season... but the first wave won't go away. In some places, there's an uptick. 

                          https://www.theblaze.com/news/coronavirus-has-significantly-weakened-could-disappear-without-vaccine-top-doctor-reveals

                          No there's not. There is only an "uptick" in positive tests but that can be because there is more testing going on, but the tests were never proven accurate to begin with. 

                          The # of people dying is dropping big time. 

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                          @icecube said:

                          https://www.theblaze.com/news/coronavirus-has-significantly-weakened-could-disappear-without-vaccine-top-doctor-reveals

                          No there's not. There is only an "uptick" in positive tests but that can be because there is more testing going on, but the tests were never proven accurate to begin with. 

                          The # of people dying is dropping big time. 

                          I hope you’re right but I clearly do not trust your source which is highly biased and outright dishonest at  times

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                            @icecube said:

                            https://www.theblaze.com/news/coronavirus-has-significantly-weakened-could-disappear-without-vaccine-top-doctor-reveals

                            No there's not. There is only an "uptick" in positive tests but that can be because there is more testing going on, but the tests were never proven accurate to begin with. 

                            The # of people dying is dropping big time. 

                            I hope you’re right but I clearly do not trust your source which is highly biased and outright dishonest at  times

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            I hope you’re right but I clearly do not trust your source which is highly biased and outright dishonest at  times

                            Perhaps, but the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it, even local news takes its marching orders from the same folks who dictate to CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox - all of them. I don't trust anything mainstream media says until I look into it. The obvious narrative by the MSM is to exaggerate dangers. The govt. wants us afraid so they can control us. They are also stoking the racial tension flames. And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              I hope you’re right but I clearly do not trust your source which is highly biased and outright dishonest at  times

                              Perhaps, but the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it, even local news takes its marching orders from the same folks who dictate to CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox - all of them. I don't trust anything mainstream media says until I look into it. The obvious narrative by the MSM is to exaggerate dangers. The govt. wants us afraid so they can control us. They are also stoking the racial tension flames. And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

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                               And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

                              It seems to be working...

                              For example, I feel this overwhelming feeling to tell you to go fuck yourself.

                              DAMN MEDIA! 

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                                2023.  till we get a vaccine.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  I hope you’re right but I clearly do not trust your source which is highly biased and outright dishonest at  times

                                  Perhaps, but the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it, even local news takes its marching orders from the same folks who dictate to CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox - all of them. I don't trust anything mainstream media says until I look into it. The obvious narrative by the MSM is to exaggerate dangers. The govt. wants us afraid so they can control us. They are also stoking the racial tension flames. And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

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                                  @icecube said:

                                  Perhaps, but the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it, even local news takes its marching orders from the same folks who dictate to CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox - all of them. I don't trust anything mainstream media says until I look into it. The obvious narrative by the MSM is to exaggerate dangers. The govt. wants us afraid so they can control us. They are also stoking the racial tension flames. And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

                                  ^ Just wanted to make sure it gets read again.

                                  ...... and again. 

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                                    Face it folks.  There will be no football this season, and possibly ever.  We haven't found a vaccine for Ebola, or even the common cold.

                                    The world has changed.  Understand that and it makes it easier.  The NFL will fold after this year.  At least several of the teams will.  Just like thousands of restaurants have closed, you can't keep paying rent, payroll, insurance, etc. if you don't have a steady stream of cash rolling in the door.  

                                    NFL owners are rich people, but most are pretty leveraged in buying that team and building stadiums. How long to you think they are going to ride it out?  A NFL team is a bad investment if you can't play games or host concerts in the stadium you just sunk $600 million in to as your part of a public/private investment..  Sooner or later you are going to see owners cutting their losses.  Trust me, several owners are already talking about it and planning the best exit strategy.  

                                    I don't think there are many buyers for NFL teams at the moment.

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      @icecube said:

                                      Perhaps, but the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it, even local news takes its marching orders from the same folks who dictate to CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox - all of them. I don't trust anything mainstream media says until I look into it. The obvious narrative by the MSM is to exaggerate dangers. The govt. wants us afraid so they can control us. They are also stoking the racial tension flames. And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

                                      ^ Just wanted to make sure it gets read again.

                                      ...... and again. 

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                                      ^ Just wanted to make sure it gets read again.

                                      ...... and again. 

                                      By the guy who quotes "The Blaze"? 

                                      No thanks. 

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        I hope you’re right but I clearly do not trust your source which is highly biased and outright dishonest at  times

                                        Perhaps, but the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it, even local news takes its marching orders from the same folks who dictate to CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox - all of them. I don't trust anything mainstream media says until I look into it. The obvious narrative by the MSM is to exaggerate dangers. The govt. wants us afraid so they can control us. They are also stoking the racial tension flames. And for a reason: keep the people divided and at each others' throats. 

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                                        @icecube said:

                                        the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it

                                        They portray the 'news' in such a way as to get clicks, sell papers and/or get you to tune in on your TV.  If a white guy is killed by a cop then it's reported as part of the news, but if a black guy is killed by a cop then that story has the potential to create all kinds of related news such as demonstrations, riots, looting, etc.  

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                                          @icecube said:

                                          the most dishonest source I know is mainstream US media. And I mean all of it

                                          They portray the 'news' in such a way as to get clicks, sell papers and/or get you to tune in on your TV.  If a white guy is killed by a cop then it's reported as part of the news, but if a black guy is killed by a cop then that story has the potential to create all kinds of related news such as demonstrations, riots, looting, etc.  

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                                          If a white guy is killed by a cop then it's reported as part of the news, but if a black guy is killed by a cop then that story has 

                                          1) White supremacists traded in their boots for suits and more likely than not are the police force member who did that killing.  When you hear and use the term alt-right, that's a rebranding of white supremacy created by.. white supremacists.

                                          2) History of police in the US.  First police in the South were.. slave patrols.

                                          Note, of course, that police corruption has been much worse and more violent throughout the history of the US -- that doesn't make it right, it does however center any discussion in reality and away from the fantasy of "justice is blind" that many appear to assume.  Gipper may very well have done his best to be honorable.. can't say the same for other justices or police however.  "The Third Degree" is a euphemism for torture.

                                          3) Remember that the chief issue is ECONOMIC and that those of both parties who play the identity politics game are the corrupt ones.. because they want credit for acknowledging without making any change.  Welfare benefits.. help vastly more white people than black people [5x more white people in poverty in the US than black people].  As we have seen with the last 10 years of bailout, there is no shortage of money.. unless you're not already rich.

                                          Fun: The Confederate States of America was a repressive antidemocratic state devoted to white supremacy

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