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  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

    Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

    Mike

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    @canton-mike said:

    I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

    Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

    Mike

    Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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    • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

      I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

      Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

      Mike

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      @canton-mike said:

      I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

      Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

      Mike

      Sony is a good player.....when he's on the field..... but Chubb is the real deal, good player and teammate.  And I was for picking the other Chubb in round 1.

      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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        @canton-mike said:

        I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

        Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

        Mike

        Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

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        Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

        Zeke was an outstanding back up until last season. He appeared to lose his burst in 2019. And it meant everything. Plays where Zeke used to take it to the house turned into plays that went 3 yards. Chubb is at the top, but I think Dobbins will be right there with him in 2020, if he gets enough touches. Look out for Dillon in GB as well. 

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          @canton-mike said:

          I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

          Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

          Mike

          Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

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          @nickers said:

          Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

          Chubb came off a nasty knee injury. I never actually saw it before researching it now. It’s not for the feint of heart to see, while coming after the play AND out of bounds. 

          Probably the main reason he wasn’t a 1st rounder. What a selection by Dorsey, anyhow. 

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            I followed him in college & WAY preferred Chubb over Sony Michel.

            Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

            Mike

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            @canton-mike said:

            Brown's RBs? Chubb needs to play awhile longer, but (IMHO) he's a step above Byner & has the potential to move closer to the Leroy Kelly & Jim Brown level. He's a special RB.

            Mike

            Throwback Thursday!

                   Georgia's Nick Chubb came into the NFL one inch taller, and 3 pounds heavier than former Clemson RB Kevin Mack in his rookie year (got to be those pillow shoulder pads)

            Toledo's Kareem Hunt also came into the NFL one inch taller, but 14 pounds lighter than East Carolina's RB Ernest Byner

            Per HOF... Only 6 RB duo's have both rushed for over 1000 yards in same season, while playing on the same team.. Mack & Byner were 3rd to ever..

            35 years later ?...Could N. Chubb & K.Hunt be the 7th ever?

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                @ballpeen said:

                I live in a tri- state area.  The Georgia state line is 11 miles from the house.  As the bird flies, Alabama is maybe 20 miles over Lookout Mountain.  As such, you see a lot of different hats when in a sports bar, thus, I was very aware of Nick.  

                You see a lot of different games, but you are always going to see the Vols, Bulldogs, and the Tide.

                I don't know...if you watched college football you knew that he sort of split time with Sony Michel at GA.

                And what?  You don't see much about the Commodores there? 

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                @the-gipper said:

                I don't know...if you watched college football you knew that he sort of split time with Sony Michel at GA.

                And what?  You don't see much about the Commodores there? 

                Not many Vandy fans.  You only see them when they are playing a team you want to watch.

                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  I don't know...if you watched college football you knew that he sort of split time with Sony Michel at GA.

                  And what?  You don't see much about the Commodores there? 

                  Not many Vandy fans.  You only see them when they are playing a team you want to watch.

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                  @ballpeen said:

                  Not many Vandy fans.  You only see them when they are playing a team you want to watch.

                  Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

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                    @ballpeen said:

                    Not many Vandy fans.  You only see them when they are playing a team you want to watch.

                    Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

                    Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

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                      I live in a tri- state area.  The Georgia state line is 11 miles from the house.  As the bird flies, Alabama is maybe 20 miles over Lookout Mountain.  As such, you see a lot of different hats when in a sports bar, thus, I was very aware of Nick.  

                      You see a lot of different games, but you are always going to see the Vols, Bulldogs, and the Tide.

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                      @ballpeen said:

                      I live in a tri- state area.  The Georgia state line is 11 miles from the house.  As the bird flies, Alabama is maybe 20 miles over Lookout Mountain.  As such, you see a lot of different hats when in a sports bar, thus, I was very aware of Nick.  

                      You see a lot of different games, but you are always going to see the Vols, Bulldogs, and the Tide.

                      SEC territory. That's the big boys' conference. 

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                        @nickers said:

                        Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

                        Chubb came off a nasty knee injury. I never actually saw it before researching it now. It’s not for the feint of heart to see, while coming after the play AND out of bounds. 

                        Probably the main reason he wasn’t a 1st rounder. What a selection by Dorsey, anyhow. 

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                        @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                        Chubb came off a nasty knee injury. I never actually saw it before researching it now. It’s not for the feint of heart to see, while coming after the play AND out of bounds. 

                        Probably the main reason he wasn’t a 1st rounder. What a selection by Dorsey, anyhow. 

                        Not many backs go in the 1st round these days. A lot of very good backs go in the 2nd and 3rd. Only 1 back went in the 1st round this year, with the last pick in the 1st. And only one RB went in the 1st in 2019.  

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

                          Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

                          Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                          4. Stanford

                          13. Cal-Berkely

                          17. UCLA

                          21. Michigan

                          22. Northwestern

                          48. Illinois

                          51. Wisconsin

                          62. USC

                          70. Ohio State

                          78. Penn St.

                          79. Minnesota

                          84. Michigan St.

                          88. Purdue

                          91. Maryland

                          104. Arizona

                          116. Vanderbilt

                          124. Colorado

                          130. Washington

                          134. Indiana

                          155. Arizona St.

                          168. Rutgers

                          175. Florida

                          178. Texas A&M

                          Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                          Between 251-300:  Oregon

                          Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                          Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                          Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                          Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                          https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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                            Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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                              Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                              Well....the Big 12 didn't fare any better, honestly.  Here are the rankings for those schools:

                              38.  Texas

                              351-400 Iowa St.

                              401-500:   Kansas,  OK Stl

                              Over 500:  Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech,  West Va. Kansas St.

                               The Final  P-5 Conference,  the ACC does much better:

                              20.  Duke

                              38. Georgia Tech

                              54. North Carolina

                              107.  Virginia

                              115.   Pitt

                              201-250:  Miami,   Wake Forest, Va. Tech

                              251-300:  Florida St.  Syracuse;

                              301-350:  Boston College,  NC St.

                              Over 500:  Clemson,  Louisville

                              Honestly though, I have to take this ranking with a grain of salt.  It seems very Eurocentric, and I don't know if they have a clue about American schools. 

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

                                Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                                4. Stanford

                                13. Cal-Berkely

                                17. UCLA

                                21. Michigan

                                22. Northwestern

                                48. Illinois

                                51. Wisconsin

                                62. USC

                                70. Ohio State

                                78. Penn St.

                                79. Minnesota

                                84. Michigan St.

                                88. Purdue

                                91. Maryland

                                104. Arizona

                                116. Vanderbilt

                                124. Colorado

                                130. Washington

                                134. Indiana

                                155. Arizona St.

                                168. Rutgers

                                175. Florida

                                178. Texas A&M

                                Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                                Between 251-300:  Oregon

                                Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                                Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                                Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                                Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                                https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                                I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

                                Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

                                Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                                  I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

                                  Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

                                  Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

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                                  @mjp28 said:

                                  I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

                                  Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

                                  Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

                                  Number of schools in the Top 200 per each conf.:

                                  Big Ten:  12

                                  Pac 12:   8

                                  ACC:  5

                                  SEC: 3

                                  Big 12:   1

                                  Ivy League school rankings:

                                  6. Princeton

                                  7. Harvard

                                  8. Yale

                                  11.  Penn

                                  16. Columbia

                                  19. Cornell

                                  53. Brown

                                  94. Dartmouth

                                  FYI....this ranking had   Cal Tech,  Stanford, and MIT rated above any of the Ivy League schools. 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

                                    Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                                    4. Stanford

                                    13. Cal-Berkely

                                    17. UCLA

                                    21. Michigan

                                    22. Northwestern

                                    48. Illinois

                                    51. Wisconsin

                                    62. USC

                                    70. Ohio State

                                    78. Penn St.

                                    79. Minnesota

                                    84. Michigan St.

                                    88. Purdue

                                    91. Maryland

                                    104. Arizona

                                    116. Vanderbilt

                                    124. Colorado

                                    130. Washington

                                    134. Indiana

                                    155. Arizona St.

                                    168. Rutgers

                                    175. Florida

                                    178. Texas A&M

                                    Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                                    Between 251-300:  Oregon

                                    Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                                    Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                                    Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                                    Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                                    https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                                    4. Stanford

                                    13. Cal-Berkely

                                    17. UCLA

                                    21. Michigan

                                    22. Northwestern

                                    48. Illinois

                                    51. Wisconsin

                                    62. USC

                                    70. Ohio State

                                    78. Penn St.

                                    79. Minnesota

                                    84. Michigan St.

                                    88. Purdue

                                    91. Maryland

                                    104. Arizona

                                    116. Vanderbilt

                                    124. Colorado

                                    130. Washington

                                    134. Indiana

                                    155. Arizona St.

                                    168. Rutgers

                                    175. Florida

                                    178. Texas A&M

                                    Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                                    Between 251-300:  Oregon

                                    Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                                    Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                                    Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                                    Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                                    https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

                                    Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

                                    This takes a genius to figure out?

                                    I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

                                    Just saying

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                                      Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                                      Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                                        4. Stanford

                                        13. Cal-Berkely

                                        17. UCLA

                                        21. Michigan

                                        22. Northwestern

                                        48. Illinois

                                        51. Wisconsin

                                        62. USC

                                        70. Ohio State

                                        78. Penn St.

                                        79. Minnesota

                                        84. Michigan St.

                                        88. Purdue

                                        91. Maryland

                                        104. Arizona

                                        116. Vanderbilt

                                        124. Colorado

                                        130. Washington

                                        134. Indiana

                                        155. Arizona St.

                                        168. Rutgers

                                        175. Florida

                                        178. Texas A&M

                                        Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                                        Between 251-300:  Oregon

                                        Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                                        Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                                        Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                                        Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                                        https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

                                        Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

                                        This takes a genius to figure out?

                                        I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

                                        Just saying

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                                        @ballpeen said:

                                        Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

                                        This takes a genius to figure out?

                                        I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

                                        Just saying

                                        The question had to do with Vanderbilt being in the SEC where Dutch  said that it was there to "bring up the GPA" of the conference, just as Northwestern is in the Big Ten to bring up its "GPA".....so I started checking out the data......and the above is what I found.  I did not know what the result of the data was going to be, (though honestly I did suspect that the Big 10 would rank out higher overall). But I did just give the data. So don't blame me....blame the data. (note I also said that you may have to take these rankings...and all rankings of this sort... with a grain of salt).

                                        And I am aware that FLA.  law has a good rep.   (almost as good as  Cleveland-Marshall...😆😛

                                        (actually....US News and World Report ranks   Fla.  at #48,   CSU at #106) 

                                        http://schools.lawschoolnumbers.com/rankings/us-news-report-law-school-rankings

                                        (as for a Doctor...I would reccommend  Johns Hopkins or the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine.

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                                          Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                                          @icecube said:

                                          Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                                          Fascinating, I guess?.

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