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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @ballpeen said:

    Not many Vandy fans.  You only see them when they are playing a team you want to watch.

    Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

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    @the-gipper said:

    Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

    Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

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      I live in a tri- state area.  The Georgia state line is 11 miles from the house.  As the bird flies, Alabama is maybe 20 miles over Lookout Mountain.  As such, you see a lot of different hats when in a sports bar, thus, I was very aware of Nick.  

      You see a lot of different games, but you are always going to see the Vols, Bulldogs, and the Tide.

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      @ballpeen said:

      I live in a tri- state area.  The Georgia state line is 11 miles from the house.  As the bird flies, Alabama is maybe 20 miles over Lookout Mountain.  As such, you see a lot of different hats when in a sports bar, thus, I was very aware of Nick.  

      You see a lot of different games, but you are always going to see the Vols, Bulldogs, and the Tide.

      SEC territory. That's the big boys' conference. 

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        @nickers said:

        Yeah... I'm not sure what Bill saw in Sony Michel.. Nice back.. But Chubb is the best back in the biz right now.. Zeke Elliott is pretty good but can't stay on the field or he's too doped up like Ricky Williams..

        Chubb came off a nasty knee injury. I never actually saw it before researching it now. It’s not for the feint of heart to see, while coming after the play AND out of bounds. 

        Probably the main reason he wasn’t a 1st rounder. What a selection by Dorsey, anyhow. 

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        @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

        Chubb came off a nasty knee injury. I never actually saw it before researching it now. It’s not for the feint of heart to see, while coming after the play AND out of bounds. 

        Probably the main reason he wasn’t a 1st rounder. What a selection by Dorsey, anyhow. 

        Not many backs go in the 1st round these days. A lot of very good backs go in the 2nd and 3rd. Only 1 back went in the 1st round this year, with the last pick in the 1st. And only one RB went in the 1st in 2019.  

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          @the-gipper said:

          Why is Vandy even a member of the SEC?

          Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

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          @dutch-oven said:

          Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

          Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

          4. Stanford

          13. Cal-Berkely

          17. UCLA

          21. Michigan

          22. Northwestern

          48. Illinois

          51. Wisconsin

          62. USC

          70. Ohio State

          78. Penn St.

          79. Minnesota

          84. Michigan St.

          88. Purdue

          91. Maryland

          104. Arizona

          116. Vanderbilt

          124. Colorado

          130. Washington

          134. Indiana

          155. Arizona St.

          168. Rutgers

          175. Florida

          178. Texas A&M

          Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

          Between 251-300:  Oregon

          Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

          Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

          Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

          Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

          https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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            Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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              Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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              @dutch-oven said:

              Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

              Well....the Big 12 didn't fare any better, honestly.  Here are the rankings for those schools:

              38.  Texas

              351-400 Iowa St.

              401-500:   Kansas,  OK Stl

              Over 500:  Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech,  West Va. Kansas St.

               The Final  P-5 Conference,  the ACC does much better:

              20.  Duke

              38. Georgia Tech

              54. North Carolina

              107.  Virginia

              115.   Pitt

              201-250:  Miami,   Wake Forest, Va. Tech

              251-300:  Florida St.  Syracuse;

              301-350:  Boston College,  NC St.

              Over 500:  Clemson,  Louisville

              Honestly though, I have to take this ranking with a grain of salt.  It seems very Eurocentric, and I don't know if they have a clue about American schools. 

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                @dutch-oven said:

                Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

                Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                4. Stanford

                13. Cal-Berkely

                17. UCLA

                21. Michigan

                22. Northwestern

                48. Illinois

                51. Wisconsin

                62. USC

                70. Ohio State

                78. Penn St.

                79. Minnesota

                84. Michigan St.

                88. Purdue

                91. Maryland

                104. Arizona

                116. Vanderbilt

                124. Colorado

                130. Washington

                134. Indiana

                155. Arizona St.

                168. Rutgers

                175. Florida

                178. Texas A&M

                Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                Between 251-300:  Oregon

                Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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                @the-gipper said:

                Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

                Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

                Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                  I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

                  Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

                  Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

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                  @mjp28 said:

                  I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

                  Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

                  Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

                  Number of schools in the Top 200 per each conf.:

                  Big Ten:  12

                  Pac 12:   8

                  ACC:  5

                  SEC: 3

                  Big 12:   1

                  Ivy League school rankings:

                  6. Princeton

                  7. Harvard

                  8. Yale

                  11.  Penn

                  16. Columbia

                  19. Cornell

                  53. Brown

                  94. Dartmouth

                  FYI....this ranking had   Cal Tech,  Stanford, and MIT rated above any of the Ivy League schools. 

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

                    Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                    4. Stanford

                    13. Cal-Berkely

                    17. UCLA

                    21. Michigan

                    22. Northwestern

                    48. Illinois

                    51. Wisconsin

                    62. USC

                    70. Ohio State

                    78. Penn St.

                    79. Minnesota

                    84. Michigan St.

                    88. Purdue

                    91. Maryland

                    104. Arizona

                    116. Vanderbilt

                    124. Colorado

                    130. Washington

                    134. Indiana

                    155. Arizona St.

                    168. Rutgers

                    175. Florida

                    178. Texas A&M

                    Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                    Between 251-300:  Oregon

                    Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                    Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                    Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                    Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                    https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                    4. Stanford

                    13. Cal-Berkely

                    17. UCLA

                    21. Michigan

                    22. Northwestern

                    48. Illinois

                    51. Wisconsin

                    62. USC

                    70. Ohio State

                    78. Penn St.

                    79. Minnesota

                    84. Michigan St.

                    88. Purdue

                    91. Maryland

                    104. Arizona

                    116. Vanderbilt

                    124. Colorado

                    130. Washington

                    134. Indiana

                    155. Arizona St.

                    168. Rutgers

                    175. Florida

                    178. Texas A&M

                    Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                    Between 251-300:  Oregon

                    Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                    Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                    Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                    Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                    https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

                    Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

                    This takes a genius to figure out?

                    I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

                    Just saying

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                      Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

                        4. Stanford

                        13. Cal-Berkely

                        17. UCLA

                        21. Michigan

                        22. Northwestern

                        48. Illinois

                        51. Wisconsin

                        62. USC

                        70. Ohio State

                        78. Penn St.

                        79. Minnesota

                        84. Michigan St.

                        88. Purdue

                        91. Maryland

                        104. Arizona

                        116. Vanderbilt

                        124. Colorado

                        130. Washington

                        134. Indiana

                        155. Arizona St.

                        168. Rutgers

                        175. Florida

                        178. Texas A&M

                        Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

                        Between 251-300:  Oregon

                        Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

                        Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

                        Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

                        Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

                        https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

                        Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

                        This takes a genius to figure out?

                        I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

                        Just saying

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                        @ballpeen said:

                        Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

                        This takes a genius to figure out?

                        I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

                        Just saying

                        The question had to do with Vanderbilt being in the SEC where Dutch  said that it was there to "bring up the GPA" of the conference, just as Northwestern is in the Big Ten to bring up its "GPA".....so I started checking out the data......and the above is what I found.  I did not know what the result of the data was going to be, (though honestly I did suspect that the Big 10 would rank out higher overall). But I did just give the data. So don't blame me....blame the data. (note I also said that you may have to take these rankings...and all rankings of this sort... with a grain of salt).

                        And I am aware that FLA.  law has a good rep.   (almost as good as  Cleveland-Marshall...😆😛

                        (actually....US News and World Report ranks   Fla.  at #48,   CSU at #106) 

                        http://schools.lawschoolnumbers.com/rankings/us-news-report-law-school-rankings

                        (as for a Doctor...I would reccommend  Johns Hopkins or the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine.

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                          Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                          @icecube said:

                          Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                          Fascinating, I guess?.

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                            Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                            @icecube said:

                            Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                            Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

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                              @icecube said:

                              Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                              Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

                              OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

                                OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

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                                @icecube said:

                                OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

                                50/50

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

                                  OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

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                                  @icecube said:

                                  OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

                                  I believe that the SEC has a different set of standards when it comes to grades and football players than most other conferences.

                                  Top SEC versus B10 I'd go with the B10 over the SEC and most P5 schools.

                                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                    @icecube said:

                                    OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

                                    50/50

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    50/50

                                    https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                                    A little less than 50-50

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      50/50

                                      https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                                      A little less than 50-50

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                                      https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                                      A little less than 50-50

                                      The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                                      You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

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                                        @icecube said:

                                        https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                                        A little less than 50-50

                                        The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                                        You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                                        You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

                                        Recent history says you are wrong. OSU losses to top SEC teams is the the norm. OSU beats the weak big 10 teams and what happens when they face the Alabamas of the world? They get their chicklets knocked out. Frame that question. 

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                                          You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

                                          Recent history says you are wrong. OSU losses to top SEC teams is the the norm. OSU beats the weak big 10 teams and what happens when they face the Alabamas of the world? They get their chicklets knocked out. Frame that question. 

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                                          @icecube said:

                                          Recent history says you are wrong. OSU losses to top SEC teams is the the norm. OSU beats the weak big 10 teams and what happens when they face the Alabamas of the world? They get their chicklets knocked out. Frame that question. 

                                          Except of course they beat Alabama the last two times they played them including in the CFP

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