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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

    Well....the Big 12 didn't fare any better, honestly.  Here are the rankings for those schools:

    38.  Texas

    351-400 Iowa St.

    401-500:   Kansas,  OK Stl

    Over 500:  Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech,  West Va. Kansas St.

     The Final  P-5 Conference,  the ACC does much better:

    20.  Duke

    38. Georgia Tech

    54. North Carolina

    107.  Virginia

    115.   Pitt

    201-250:  Miami,   Wake Forest, Va. Tech

    251-300:  Florida St.  Syracuse;

    301-350:  Boston College,  NC St.

    Over 500:  Clemson,  Louisville

    Honestly though, I have to take this ranking with a grain of salt.  It seems very Eurocentric, and I don't know if they have a clue about American schools. 

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      @dutch-oven said:

      Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

      Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

      4. Stanford

      13. Cal-Berkely

      17. UCLA

      21. Michigan

      22. Northwestern

      48. Illinois

      51. Wisconsin

      62. USC

      70. Ohio State

      78. Penn St.

      79. Minnesota

      84. Michigan St.

      88. Purdue

      91. Maryland

      104. Arizona

      116. Vanderbilt

      124. Colorado

      130. Washington

      134. Indiana

      155. Arizona St.

      168. Rutgers

      175. Florida

      178. Texas A&M

      Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

      Between 251-300:  Oregon

      Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

      Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

      Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

      Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

      https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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      @the-gipper said:

      Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

      I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

      Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

      Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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        @the-gipper said:

        Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

        I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

        Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

        Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

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        @mjp28 said:

        I've seen various ratings like this in the past no big surprise and. GO BIG TEN !

        Now I wouldn't want to make a run against the IVY LEAGUE on the books.

        Nice too that Ohio State is up there with Alabama in football talent on the field.

        Number of schools in the Top 200 per each conf.:

        Big Ten:  12

        Pac 12:   8

        ACC:  5

        SEC: 3

        Big 12:   1

        Ivy League school rankings:

        6. Princeton

        7. Harvard

        8. Yale

        11.  Penn

        16. Columbia

        19. Cornell

        53. Brown

        94. Dartmouth

        FYI....this ranking had   Cal Tech,  Stanford, and MIT rated above any of the Ivy League schools. 

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          @dutch-oven said:

          Just to up the collective GPA of the SEC... like Northwestern for the Big Ten.

          Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

          4. Stanford

          13. Cal-Berkely

          17. UCLA

          21. Michigan

          22. Northwestern

          48. Illinois

          51. Wisconsin

          62. USC

          70. Ohio State

          78. Penn St.

          79. Minnesota

          84. Michigan St.

          88. Purdue

          91. Maryland

          104. Arizona

          116. Vanderbilt

          124. Colorado

          130. Washington

          134. Indiana

          155. Arizona St.

          168. Rutgers

          175. Florida

          178. Texas A&M

          Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

          Between 251-300:  Oregon

          Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

          Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

          Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

          Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

          https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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          @the-gipper said:

          Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

          4. Stanford

          13. Cal-Berkely

          17. UCLA

          21. Michigan

          22. Northwestern

          48. Illinois

          51. Wisconsin

          62. USC

          70. Ohio State

          78. Penn St.

          79. Minnesota

          84. Michigan St.

          88. Purdue

          91. Maryland

          104. Arizona

          116. Vanderbilt

          124. Colorado

          130. Washington

          134. Indiana

          155. Arizona St.

          168. Rutgers

          175. Florida

          178. Texas A&M

          Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

          Between 251-300:  Oregon

          Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

          Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

          Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

          Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

          https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

          Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

          This takes a genius to figure out?

          I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

          Just saying

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

            Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

            Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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              @the-gipper said:

              Except that  the Big Ten Conference academic wise is considered quite  long way ahead of the SEC, though the Pac 12 has a good Academic Reputation.    Just for shits and giggles, I looked up where the schools in each of those 3 conferences rated on a World Wide basis of respected academic institutions,  and here are those world wide rankings, color coded based on conference.  Blue for Pac 12,  Red for Big Ten, Green for SEC

              4. Stanford

              13. Cal-Berkely

              17. UCLA

              21. Michigan

              22. Northwestern

              48. Illinois

              51. Wisconsin

              62. USC

              70. Ohio State

              78. Penn St.

              79. Minnesota

              84. Michigan St.

              88. Purdue

              91. Maryland

              104. Arizona

              116. Vanderbilt

              124. Colorado

              130. Washington

              134. Indiana

              155. Arizona St.

              168. Rutgers

              175. Florida

              178. Texas A&M

              Between 201 and 250: Iowa,   Utah

              Between 251-300:  Oregon

              Between 301 and 250:  Tennessee

              Between 351 and 400:  Oregon St. and Washington St.

              Between 401 and 500:  Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina,  Nebraska

              Not rated in the top 500: Auburn, Mississippi,   Miss. St., LSU, Arkansas,  

              https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/20/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

              Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

              This takes a genius to figure out?

              I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

              Just saying

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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              @ballpeen said:

              Ok, cool.   If I am looking for a MD, I am probably looking towards Duke, Stanford, or one of the Ivey's.  If I am looking for a football player, I am checking the SEC first.

              This takes a genius to figure out?

              I graduated from Florida Law.  It has a good reputation.  To be honest, I am not sure I like your tone.

              Just saying

              The question had to do with Vanderbilt being in the SEC where Dutch  said that it was there to "bring up the GPA" of the conference, just as Northwestern is in the Big Ten to bring up its "GPA".....so I started checking out the data......and the above is what I found.  I did not know what the result of the data was going to be, (though honestly I did suspect that the Big 10 would rank out higher overall). But I did just give the data. So don't blame me....blame the data. (note I also said that you may have to take these rankings...and all rankings of this sort... with a grain of salt).

              And I am aware that FLA.  law has a good rep.   (almost as good as  Cleveland-Marshall...😆😛

              (actually....US News and World Report ranks   Fla.  at #48,   CSU at #106) 

              http://schools.lawschoolnumbers.com/rankings/us-news-report-law-school-rankings

              (as for a Doctor...I would reccommend  Johns Hopkins or the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine.

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                @dutch-oven said:

                Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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                @icecube said:

                Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                Fascinating, I guess?.

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Holy crap, I'm not shocked that southern universities graded poorly, but that's sad. 

                  Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

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                  @icecube said:

                  Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                  Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

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                    @icecube said:

                    Yea but the SEC grades well in caving northern conferences faces in playing football. 

                    Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

                    OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

                      OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

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                      @icecube said:

                      OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

                      50/50

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Northern conferences?  You mean like the MAC  or the Missouri Valley conference?  You are probably right there. 

                        OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

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                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                        @icecube said:

                        OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

                        I believe that the SEC has a different set of standards when it comes to grades and football players than most other conferences.

                        Top SEC versus B10 I'd go with the B10 over the SEC and most P5 schools.

                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                          @icecube said:

                          OK, the top SEC team is playing the top big 10 team, what are the odds SEC tops them?

                          50/50

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          50/50

                          https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                          A little less than 50-50

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            50/50

                            https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                            A little less than 50-50

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                            @icecube said:

                            https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                            A little less than 50-50

                            The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                            You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

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                              @icecube said:

                              https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/college-football-national-championship-history

                              A little less than 50-50

                              The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                              You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                              You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

                              Recent history says you are wrong. OSU losses to top SEC teams is the the norm. OSU beats the weak big 10 teams and what happens when they face the Alabamas of the world? They get their chicklets knocked out. Frame that question. 

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                The Top Team in the Big Ten is THE Ohio State University.  I would give them a 50/50 chance against any team in the nation,  SEC or otherwise. 

                                You asked what I thought  would happen if the Top Big Ten Team would play the Top SEC team....not what did happen in the past.  (If that is what you wanted, you should have framed your question differently)   I asumed you were talking going forward.  I will take my chances on Ohio State at 50/50 any time.  

                                Recent history says you are wrong. OSU losses to top SEC teams is the the norm. OSU beats the weak big 10 teams and what happens when they face the Alabamas of the world? They get their chicklets knocked out. Frame that question. 

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                                @icecube said:

                                Recent history says you are wrong. OSU losses to top SEC teams is the the norm. OSU beats the weak big 10 teams and what happens when they face the Alabamas of the world? They get their chicklets knocked out. Frame that question. 

                                Except of course they beat Alabama the last two times they played them including in the CFP

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