Browns Training Camp 2020

ballpeen

@the-gipper said:

Well, with Billings choosing to opt out....what other options do the Browns have for depth on the DL. You have Garrett, Vernon, Richardson and Ogunjobi, and behind there is Clayborn, Jordan, Ekuale. So...he has to at least be a rotation guy.

That is about it for now. We may look at a free agent, and then later we have camp cuts.

ballpeen

At this point, unless 32 teams have screwed up, pretty much everybody worth a flip is signed. All teams have good scouting departments. They know who has a chance to play.

If I was in charge, I would rank the top 10 D lines in the league, both for starters and depth, and when they start releasing D line players, I look to pick them up. Just because you can't make a team with 4 quality starters and 3 really good back-ups doesn't mean you can't make mine.

Same with guards since we are looking for a couple of them.

Building the bottom of the roster is as important as building the top of the roster.

gumby73

66 total NFL Opt Outs... https://nfl.com/news/list-of-nfl-players-to-opt-out-of-2020-season 1) Pats with 8 2.) Browns with 5 3.) Jets with 4 4) Seven teams with 3

Drew Forbes, Drake Dorbeck, Malcolm Pridgeon, Colby Gossett, 4 O-line.. 1 DL Andrew Billings... Good Luck & respect your choice..

To date.. 56 players have tested positive for Covid-19..

Team field drills should begin mid August.. 9-5 Teams must cut to 53, by 4pm.. 9-13 Browns @ Ravens...

5 weeks from Week 1.. And If Teams wait to add bodies at cut down? They will be on your team a week before Week 1 kicks off...Tick..tock..

mjp28

Our professional athletes have obviously reached the better than us working stiffs prima dona status in fact they have long passed even our congressman. "Here's a little stipend to get you through these tough times."

........To be designated a voluntary opt-out, a player must be under contract or subject to a tender. The player's contract will toll and all provisions of that contract for the tolled year will be applicable the following season; however, he will not receive an accrued season. The player will be eligible for a stipend of $150,000 to be treated as a salary advance against his tolled contract; an undrafted free agent, however, is not eligible for the stipend.......

.......It is not mandatory for a "higher risk" player to opt out. A higher-risk opt-out will receive an accrued season toward free agency and all benefits and minimum salary credit for a credited season and is also eligible for a stipend of $350,000, which will not constitute a salary advance.......

jiggins7919

I was more than a little surprised to see Drew Forbes opt out. It was looking like he had a future in the league and now I'm not so sure. I mean, that's basically two years without really playing ball.

Orion

@gumby73 said:

If Teams wait to add bodies at cut down? They will be on your team a week before Week 1 kicks off

I don't know how much we can accomplish before roster cuts. We obviously will be looking for offensive guards but rosters right now are quite fat with just about anybody that knows how to play tackle football (90 guys on some teams). And the cut down to 80 next week will be just bodies.

With the opt out of 66 players, that's 61 fewer decent players not being cut because teams have to keep guys that ordinarily would've been cut. (and maybe go to a practice squad) - The pool of cuts will be of lesser quality this year.

gumby73

@orion said:

I don't know how much we can accomplish before roster cuts. We obviously will be looking for offensive guards but rosters right now are quite fat with just about anybody that knows how to play tackle football (90 guys on some teams). And the cut down to 80 next week will be just bodies.

With the opt out of 66 players, that's 61 fewer decent players not being cut because teams have to keep guys that ordinarily would've been cut. (and maybe go to a practice squad) - The pool of cuts will be of lesser quality this year.

Just had a good confab with my former ball coach up in Toledo..The main topic were still confused on.. is this... Practice Squads,, and this is the latest confirmation of eligibility.. https://cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-revised-cba-salary-cap-details-training-camp-timeline-roster-size-and-more-to-know/

53 plus 16=69..2 to 3 players/team, always get protected by PuP list and or Injured Reserve, so that will cut into that pie.

But It looks like were still waiting on a confirmation of? (see link^^) a) only protecting 4 PS players of 16? or B.) up to 6 allowed Vets? is that the new number teams can protect?

Coach thought trading for OL help now would be draft pick compensation robbery..Teams knowing with Covid testing vs. Trench warfare..Teams ain't giving up no one for free with that high of a risk position, that they may need themselves.. Your better off waiting on the 5-6 last cuts that teams will have to make.. Stay tuned ?... and Exhale...Da Browns have no Players, at this time on Covid/reserve..

Orion

@gumby73 said:

Your better off waiting on the 5-6 last cuts that teams will have to make..

Yup. As soon as they're cut, you put in for a few and see where the dice lands.

ballpeen

No doubt the pool will be thinner, and it is usually pretty thin

Orion

I betchya fewer 'older vets' get cut this year. If for no other reason than , they know the system, they know the plays, the coaches know them (this of course, rarely applies to us as we're always firing coaches). They are going to have such a short period of time, and no games for evaluating actual on field, full speed talent of new players.

I'm not certain, but I think the cut down to 80 is a couple of days before pads go on.

gumby73

@orion said:

I betchya fewer 'older vets' get cut this year. If for no other reason than , they know the system, they know the plays, the coaches know them (this of course, rarely applies to us as we're always firing coaches). They are going to have such a short period of time, and no games for evaluating actual on field, full speed talent of new players.

I'm not certain, but I think the cut down to 80 is a couple of days before pads go on. Next Sunday August 16th..

From the Rumor mill.. Keep your ears open to a FA RG Josh Kline. Kline played in Stef's system at Vikings. #26 in top 100 FA's.Than grab 1 more off the final scrap pile.If Berry want's a RG position competition? Bring him on, before pads & hit the playbook.. But get this...

So am listening to the Professor John Clayton on NFL radio delivering my route..Jimmy the 11th caller from Cleveland ask Clayton..

1) Rules to PS eligibility-- Clayton agree's that it's 16.. 10 can be with no experience..6 can be Veterans..But still only 4 can be protected from not being picked off your PS of 16 ?

2) Clayton stated that..eligible FA's can only pass team Physical's at Team's Camp sites..They also have to pass 3 Covid tests before entering there Buildings to get said Team Physical's ? so 4 days later, teams may be able to sign a FA..

Orion

@gumby73 said:

eligible FA's can only pass team Physical's at Team's Camp sites..They also have to pass 3 Covid tests before entering there Buildings to get said Team Physical's ? so 4 days later, teams may be able to sign a FA..

.....that's right....the infamous COVID test days. By the time the team is heading off to the first game he'll still be figuring out his way around the facility. "Where's the rest room?"

So that last roster cut signing is not gonna help you much early on.

gumby73

Browns a week away from padded practice. And were back to a full 80 man squad. J.Landry/Pharaoh Brown & Karl Joesph have all returned from the PUP list. To date we have nobody on Covid/reserve..

Few noted transactions.. Browns have added a Cornerback- MJ Steward..And added a Guard-Micheal Dunn..TE-Nate Wieting was Waived.. Roster is a 80..

Games are played with game Officials. Here's a Covid19/opt out, agreement with the NFL.. https://nfl.com/news/nflra-announce-protections-for-2020-season-opt-out-program

Orion

@gumby73 said:

And added a Guard-Micheal Dunn.

- Dunn is 6-5, 315-pounds and is officially in his first NFL season out of Maryland. Originally signed by the Rams as an undrafted free agent in 2017, Dunn has spent time on the Rams (2017) and Jaguars (2018) practice squads. He also spent time with the Dolphins during the 2019 preseason and was a member of the Birmingham Iron (AAF) in 2019 and Seattle Dragons (XFL) in 2020. -

...pickin's are a little slim out there.

Orion

The Cleveland Browns have made the following roster moves:

Signed (1):

G Jovahn Fair

Waived (1):

CB Jameson Houston

Fair is a 6-2, 310 pound rookie out of Temple. Originally signed by Kansas City as an undrafted free agent, Fair started 42 of his 45 career games at Temple. He is a native of Akron and attended Firestone High School.

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....why would KC need him? They have Irving.

gumby73

@orion said:

The Cleveland Browns have made the following roster moves:

Waived (4): WR Tony Brown, LB Jermaine Grace, DE George Obinna, DT Justin Zimmer (non-football injury)

The Browns active roster is currently at 80 players.

Browns bring back & sign DE George Obinna (this guy is built like a tank ?, but undersized to play in today's DE world, imo)..Than cut a un-drafted DT in Jeff Whatley.. so maybe we were after the Eagles Vinny Curry? Waiting on the results of a surprise Wednesday visit to camp by G Ronald Leary..

and here's a total preview of before phase 1 of conditioning camp & more https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/cleveland-browns-2020-training-camp-preview-everything-you-need-to-know.html But will STO (sports time ohio) be airing the Friday start of Camp from 2-4pm? pads can go on Sunday..

gumby73

Day 1 recap https://dawgsbynature.com/2020/8/14/21369223/cleveland-browns-training-camp-recap-day-1-welcome-to-2020

media tweets (stroll bar down) https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/cleveland-browns-training-camp-2020-live-updates.html

Browns Daily full Camp video is up on Youtube.. over 2 hours! and I will not be posting that kind of long bandwidth Daily...

ballpeen

@gumby73 said:

1) Rules to PS eligibility-- Clayton agree's that it's 16.. 10 can be with no experience..6 can be Veterans..But still only 4 can be protected from not being picked off your PS of 16 ?

Being able to protect 4 is better than what it was. I assume you have to pay them more.

mjp28

On STO after the Indians game I saw parts of the BROWNS training camp daily......yeah it feel like it's finally football season.

Interesting bit on the new BROWNS new coach flying down to Texas to meet with Mayfield just before the pandemic hit.

For the first time since 2014, Cleveland Browns Training Camp Daily returns to SportsTime Ohio. From April 21, 2017 02:30 AM nearing the end of that agreement.

STO is excited to take Browns fans inside Browns Training Camp with Training Camp Daily, debuting this Thursday, July 27 at 11pm. Each new 30-minute show will debut daily of Training Camp days, including weekends, following Indians game coverage with a replay the following morning at 11am. There will be a total of 15 shows.

During each show, the most recognizable and informed Browns broadcasters in the region will interview players, cover roster decisions, report position battles, provide injury updates, and discuss the upcoming season from the sidelines of the practice field in Berea.

Hear from this group of experts, who knows the Browns like no one else:

• Jim Donovan

• Doug Dieken

• Tony Grossi

• Nathan Zegura

• Matt Wilhelm

• Dustin Fox

Earlier this year, STO, FOX Sports Ohio and the Cleveland Browns reached a new multi-year television agreement. As part of this renewed partnership, STO will deliver the most comprehensive coverage of the Browns starting withTraining Camp Daily and continuing all season with Red Zone and Building the Browns.

Dutch Oven

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/browns-waste-no-practice-time-establishing-an-offensive-identity-early-in-training-camp.html

Interesting article on how the offense looks early on.

Can't believe it is only four weeks until the season begins, in Baltimore.