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  • @calfoxwc said:

    Um, yes you sure the hell ARE. There IS a big difference - stop swimming in Egypt...don't drink while swimming...

    Judicial Watch Finds Millions of ‘Extra’ Registrants on ...

    Jan 02, 2020 · Judicial Watch found major voting list issues in California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, and Colorado. The following counties have excessive registration rates or have failed to cancel sufficient numbers of ineligible registrations: Colorado. Jefferson County. California. Imperial County. Monterey County. Orange County. Riverside County

    Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR

    https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790319853

    Dec 20, 2019 · So, for example, Georgia earlier this week took 300,000 inactive voters off the registration lists. That's still being challenged in court. But …

    What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote?  I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico.... 😁  

    The problem is easily solved.  Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records... 

    That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States...  My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number.... 

    @hoorta said:

    What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote?  I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico.... 😁  

    The problem is easily solved.  Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records... 

    That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States...  My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number.... 

    Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.

  • @hoorta said:

    Because Trump has it in his mind only absentee ballots are OK, not mail in ones. Never mind several states have used mail in ballots for years. 

    I'll even grant you the 1% chance some ballots went out to people who are dead, or recently moved. That would assume dishonesty on the part of the person who recieved one by mistake to fill it out, and mail it back. And I've heard the signatures are checked against those on file, so that should stop most of that fraud. 

    Why are the Dems making a big deal out of it? Because Trump is actively trying to suppress mail in voting. Or did you miss he's suing Nevada over it? Another big deal when his lackey Postmaster General is decommissioning and removing mail sorting machines. Add in, recent surveys are showing far more Democrats intend to vote by mail than Republicans. Not Rocket Science what Trump is trying to do. 

    Judge orders new election in New Jersey over voter fraud charges

    @vambo said:

    Why  the need for mail in voting?  Never had an entire mail in vote before?  1 in five were invalid recently that's quite a few if over 100,000,000 vote.  Wait until 2024 then try it why rush?

    Those machines were scheduled to be decommissioned before Trump.

    Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd.  But that's what I just was getting at V....  Those invalid votes got caught.  No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....  

    Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else....  LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election..... 

    To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such,  but for everything else- M-W-F works for me... 

    And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off.  I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.  

  • @vambo said:

    Why  the need for mail in voting?  Never had an entire mail in vote before?  1 in five were invalid recently that's quite a few if over 100,000,000 vote.  Wait until 2024 then try it why rush?

    Those machines were scheduled to be decommissioned before Trump.

    Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd.  But that's what I just was getting at V....  Those invalid votes got caught.  No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....  

    Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else....  LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election..... 

    To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such,  but for everything else- M-W-F works for me... 

    And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off.  I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.  

    @hoorta said:

    Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd.  But that's what I just was getting at V....  Those invalid votes got caught.  No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....  

    Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else....  LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election..... 

    To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such,  but for everything else- M-W-F works for me... 

    And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off.  I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.  

    So masks don't work?

  • @hoorta said:

    What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote?  I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico.... 😁  

    The problem is easily solved.  Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records... 

    That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States...  My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number.... 

    Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.

    @vambo said:

    Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.

    True, but you can lie, and no one is going to check on the truthfulness of your answers...  

    FWIW, 10 years back- I was one of the unlucky ones who got fingered for an "extensive" Census questionnaire. I was sorely tempted to just answer complete bullshit to f**k up the works.  How many people live here? 15. What's your nationality?  Antarctican...  What is your family income? $3 billion a year...  You get my point.  🙂  

  • @hoorta said:

    Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd.  But that's what I just was getting at V....  Those invalid votes got caught.  No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....  

    Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else....  LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election..... 

    To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such,  but for everything else- M-W-F works for me... 

    And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off.  I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.  

    So masks don't work?

    @vambo said:

    So masks don't work?

    Ah- come on they're not totally effective, but they do reduce the risk- and that's a fact Jack... Some would only feel comfortable walking around outside in space suits they're so paranoid. But if you want to tempt fate, and not wear one- your call...  

  • @vambo said:

    Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.

    True, but you can lie, and no one is going to check on the truthfulness of your answers...  

    FWIW, 10 years back- I was one of the unlucky ones who got fingered for an "extensive" Census questionnaire. I was sorely tempted to just answer complete bullshit to f**k up the works.  How many people live here? 15. What's your nationality?  Antarctican...  What is your family income? $3 billion a year...  You get my point.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    True, but you can lie, and no one is going to check on the truthfulness of your answers...  

    FWIW, 10 years back- I was one of the unlucky ones who got fingered for an "extensive" Census questionnaire. I was sorely tempted to just answer complete bullshit to f**k up the works.  How many people live here? 15. What's your nationality?  Antarctican...  What is your family income? $3 billion a year...  You get my point.  🙂  

    Good reason not to do mail in voting it's harder to lie in person. thank you.😉

  • @vambo said:

    So masks don't work?

    Ah- come on they're not totally effective, but they do reduce the risk- and that's a fact Jack... Some would only feel comfortable walking around outside in space suits they're so paranoid. But if you want to tempt fate, and not wear one- your call...  

    @hoorta said:

    Ah- come on they're not totally effective, but they do reduce the risk- and that's a fact Jack... Some would only feel comfortable walking around outside in space suits they're so paranoid. But if you want to tempt fate, and not wear one- your call...  

    So masks work no need for mail in voting. 😁

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Um, yes you sure the hell ARE. There IS a big difference - stop swimming in Egypt...don't drink while swimming...

    Judicial Watch Finds Millions of ‘Extra’ Registrants on ...

    Jan 02, 2020 · Judicial Watch found major voting list issues in California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, and Colorado. The following counties have excessive registration rates or have failed to cancel sufficient numbers of ineligible registrations: Colorado. Jefferson County. California. Imperial County. Monterey County. Orange County. Riverside County

    Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR

    https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790319853

    Dec 20, 2019 · So, for example, Georgia earlier this week took 300,000 inactive voters off the registration lists. That's still being challenged in court. But …

    What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote?  I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico.... 😁  

    The problem is easily solved.  Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records... 

    That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States...  My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number.... 

    @hoorta said:

    That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States...  My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number.... 

    I don't have a problem, you swim in Egypt. You spout off your leftwing numbers, but any numbers that don't fit, you throw a fit. I never said I BELIEVED the numbers, I don't know.

      STOP and THINK for a minute, Hoorta. maybe it's only 1/16. I reckon that's 9.5 million. How close was the last election, without pause for deflection? Did I get your attention?

    eh. sorry. lol

    But your adamant TDS deserves some conflict - since you throw out accusations and criticisms of Pres Trump, and you won't criticize your hidin biden or your kamoola - when it comes to being honest about it, you do the hula. (okay, I just did that because it rhymed -

    you swim in Egypt. Again, I can list HUNDREDS of great and good things terrible old Pres Trump and VP Pence - HAVE DONE FOR AMERICA. MAGA !

    and you still can't name even ONE good or great thing your obaMao and biden accomplished in EIGHT FREAKING GOD FORSAKEN DESTRUCTIVE TO AMERICA YEARS.

       You can't name one, you're done.

  • @hoorta said:

    Ah- come on they're not totally effective, but they do reduce the risk- and that's a fact Jack... Some would only feel comfortable walking around outside in space suits they're so paranoid. But if you want to tempt fate, and not wear one- your call...  

    So masks work no need for mail in voting. 😁

    @vambo said:

    So masks work no need for mail in voting. 😁

    And Trump almost never wears a mask, un American... The guy who votes by mail ya know...   You guys wouldn't recognize the hypocrisy of it all if it walked up to you and bit you in your MAGA asses.....   😁   

  • @vambo said:

    So masks work no need for mail in voting. 😁

    And Trump almost never wears a mask, un American... The guy who votes by mail ya know...   You guys wouldn't recognize the hypocrisy of it all if it walked up to you and bit you in your MAGA asses.....   😁   

    @hoorta said:

    And Trump almost never wears a mask, un American... The guy who votes by mail ya know...   You guys wouldn't recognize the hypocrisy of it all if it walked up to you and bit you in your MAGA asses.....   😁   

    Why can't you have a conversation without bringing Trump into it?  Sad so sad and seriously seek professional help you have a Trump addiction.

    I bet you call out Trump's name during sex...?

  • well, Hoorta keeps stepping in it then denying his shoes stink.

    Lies about mail in balloting...blah blahblah...

    https://www.redstate.com/christopher-arps/2020/08/21/%e2%80%9csue-until-your-blue%e2%80%9d-plus-244-other-ways-democrats-plan-on-stealing-2020-election/

    Sue Until You’re Blue” Plus 244 Other Ways Democrats Plan To Steal 2020 Election

    According to the Public Interest Legal Foundation, a 501(c)(3) public interest law firm dedicated entirely to election integrity, there were 244 counties that exceeded 100% voter registration and another 279 counties across 31 states that exhibited registration rates of 95 to 99 percent.

    You don’t have to be a math whiz or a political genius to figure out many of these registrations are probably fraudulent, but under the Democrat’s universal mail in ballot plan, these fraudulent registrations would receive a legitimate ballot.