Keys to the Browns upcoming successful seasons - secret weapons

Icecube

@bob806 said:

Donovan Peoples-Jones could be a great find. Return man, good hands.

Gip thinks Peeps is a better prospect than Chase Claypool. Too bad he won't actually bet on it.

The Gipper

@icecube said:

Gip thinks Peeps is a better prospect than Chase Claypool. Too bad he won't actually bet on it.

I did not say that corncunthole. I said DPJ's production in college is ever so incrementally less than Claypool's had been, (plus the fact that Claypool played 4 years opposed to 3 for Peeps so that makes the comparison even more difficult). I also said that Claypool goddam good and well better be considered a better prospect than Peeps because he was drafted only like 140 places above DPJ.

So, OK, sure. For a hot fudge sundae, I will say that 5 years from now Peeps will turn out to have just as productive career as Claypool.

Call me in 5 years.

calfoxwc

interesting - yesterday's update ...Harrison Bryant is turning heads at camp, and Peoples-Jones is making a

case for himself here and there.

https://www.brownsnation.com/te-harrison-bryant-is-turning-heads-at-browns-training-camp/

The Gipper

@the-gipper said:

I did not say that corncunthole. I said DPJ's production in college is ever so incrementally less than Claypool's had been, (plus the fact that Claypool played 4 years opposed to 3 for Peeps so that makes the comparison even more difficult). I also said that Claypool goddam good and well better be considered a better prospect than Peeps because he was drafted only like 140 places above DPJ.

So, OK, sure. For a hot fudge sundae, I will say that 5 years from now Peeps will turn out to have just as productive career as Claypool.

Call me in 5 years.

Were you going to take me up on this bet?

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jiggins7919

@calfoxwc said:

interesting - yesterday's update ...Harrison Bryant is turning heads at camp, and Peoples-Jones is making a

case for himself here and there.

https://www.brownsnation.com/te-harrison-bryant-is-turning-heads-at-browns-training-camp/

We need some good news because there really hasn't been much. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the teams who aren't implementing new systems are going to absolutely dominate IMO. This year was significantly shortened and the preseason plain doesn't exist. Guess who we play first? We play the team with the most galvanized identity in the league...the Ravens. They know exactly what they want to do, how to do it, and they won't be trying to learn new things.

Conversely, every single day I read about our beloved Browns it's more bad news about the offense. Yesterday they could hardly complete a pass with the top 6 DBs out or injured! I realize the defense is always ahead of the offense, but it's getting a little more urgent. To be fair, we haven't had that many practices, we lost a padded practice with the recent covid scare, and we still have 3 weeks before Baltimore. But guess what? The Ravens don't care about being fair. They won't feel bad about us not having a typical offseason to install our new shit.

We're going to lean on the running game early, and that's totally fine with me. But to do that, we can't be down 20 points. We need some good offensive news next week or it's gonna get messy. I REALLY don't like reading about Baker sailing throws high still...that can't happen again. And Jesus, please no more injuries, ok?

calfoxwc

@jiggins7919 said:

We need some good news because there really hasn't been much. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the teams who aren't implementing new systems are going to absolutely dominate IMO. This year was significantly shortened and the preseason plain doesn't exist. Guess who we play first? We play the team with the most galvanized identity in the league...the Ravens. They know exactly what they want to do, how to do it, and they won't be trying to learn new things.

Conversely, every single day I read about our beloved Browns it's more bad news about the offense. Yesterday they could hardly complete a pass with the top 6 DBs out or injured! I realize the defense is always ahead of the offense, but it's getting a little more urgent. To be fair, we haven't had that many practices, we lost a padded practice with the recent covid scare, and we still have 3 weeks before Baltimore. But guess what? The Ravens don't care about being fair. They won't feel bad about us not having a typical offseason to install our new shit.

We're going to lean on the running game early, and that's totally fine with me. But to do that, we can't be down 20 points. We need some good offensive news next week or it's gonna get messy. I REALLY don't like reading about Baker sailing throws high still...that can't happen again. And Jesus, please no more injuries, ok?

I didn't know it til just now- but I posted that Greedy is hurt now, might? miss time.... I'll delete it if it's already been said...

A lot of us? would have felt the Browns would have a great chance at winning the division...but with the significant injuries..

I have to wonder now. But if any HC can adjust and still win - it will be Stefanski I think.

"secret weapons" will play a far bigger role in the Browns - given the injuries.

Stefanski is just an inspiring guy - a good press conference - (Chubb is back, etc)

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/kevin-stefanski-jedrick-wills-jr-is-progressing-every-day

jiggins7919

@calfoxwc said:

I didn't know it til just now- but I posted that Greedy is hurt now, might? miss time.... I'll delete it if it's already been said..

Greedy is definitely missing a good amount of time, we just don't know HOW much.

The Gipper

@jiggins7919 said:

Greedy is definitely missing a good amount of time, we just don't know HOW much.

What’s his problem?

nickers

The keys to success are... Stay off the IR

jiggins7919

@the-gipper said:

What’s his problem?

Shoulder injury. Nobody is saying exactly what it is, but it's not good.

jiggins7919

@jiggins7919 said:

Shoulder injury. Nobody is saying exactly what it is, but it's not good.

Well, now they're saying he's "truly day to day".

That's INCREDIBLE news!

Dutch Oven

@jiggins7919 said:

Well, now they're saying he's "truly day to day".

Aren't we all? ?

gumby73

I guess i really never caught this connection early on?

TE Harrison Bryant at Florida Atlantic was coached by Charlie Weiss jr..That is the son of Pats blowhard... Charlie Weiss Sr. now on NFL radio.. While traveling to work this past week, I heard Charlie Sr. compare Harrison Bryant as a combo of Mark Bravro & Zach Ertz... Charlie rarely thinks highly of the Browns in any season..but this season, Charlie Sr. really liked the drafting of HB by AB...

We hear rookie's may not see much playing time due to lack of prep time?... or just Hang your hopes on seeing? Wills, Harrison Bryant & Nick Harris ?

mjp28

@jiggins7919 said:

Well, now they're saying he's "truly day to day".

That's INCREDIBLE news!

"But aren't we all"....ESPN'S Chris Berman's famous line.

calfoxwc

@gumby73 said:

I guess i really never caught this connection early on?

TE Harrison Bryant at Florida Atlantic was coached by Charlie Weiss jr..That is the son of Pats blowhard... Charlie Weiss Sr. now on NFL radio.. While traveling to work this past week, I heard Charlie Sr. compare Harrison Bryant as a combo of Mark Bravro & Zach Ertz... Charlie rarely thinks highly of the Browns in any season..but this season, Charlie Sr. really liked the drafting of HB by AB...

We hear rookie's may not see much playing time due to lack of prep time?... or just Hang your hopes on seeing? Wills, Harrison Bryant & Nick Harris ?

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center. and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp.

jiggins7919

@calfoxwc said:

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center. and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp.

I'm completely floored by Harrison Bryant. It's one thing to make a handful of catches in practice, but apparently he's been torching people from the beginning and still turning it on. I also like Carlson, who is another receiving TE that will be tough to get rid of. Carlson is the guy who effectively ended that Steelers game last year by catching a very difficult TD.

One of the studs of training camp has been Austin Hooper, which is GREAT news for us. We'll be running a bunch of two TE sets, so having Harrison Bryant turning into a viable threat is a serious boon to our attack. We're going to be pretty tough to stop if we can get these pieces working together.

I can see us running a TON of boot-action short passes to our TEs and to Kareem Hunt. Hunt catching a 3 yard boot pass can easily turn into a big play.

Dutch Oven

@jiggins7919 said:

I can see us running a TON of boot-action short passes to our TEs and to Kareem Hunt. Hunt catching a 3 yard boot pass can easily turn into a big play.

Do you think Chubb gets the vast majority of rushes, while Hunt plays the "Duke Johnson" role again (a few carries, but used more as a 3rd down back who catches the ball more than runs it), or do you see Hunt being a true 1A to Chubb's 1 (where he plays a full series for every two series Chubb is in for)?

gumby73

@calfoxwc said:

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. maybe Not* after what I just watched ?... Will's can't drop kick to catch up to a outside rusher yet...thou... he can run block at this level

Browns rotating Alex Taylor and Kendall Lamm at first team RT. Conklin seems fine on the sideline. will he see LT snaps? paid like one..

17m

Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center. RG maybe?.... but he's not ready to start either, for neither

and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. showed Great hands in traffic today

Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp. not today..No joke was the best TE1 & 2 on the field...

The Gipper

Browns rotating Alex Taylor and Kendall Lamm at first team RT. Conklin seems fine on the sideline. will he see LT snaps? paid like one..

WTF is this? Conklin not brought in to be a backup

jiggins7919

@dutch-oven said:

Do you think Chubb gets the vast majority of rushes, while Hunt plays the "Duke Johnson" role again (a few carries, but used more as a 3rd down back who catches the ball more than runs it), or do you see Hunt being a true 1A to Chubb's 1 (where he plays a full series for every two series Chubb is in for)?

That is a terrific question and not one that likely has an answer. What I mean is, every game could be different. Apparently Hunt has looked otherworldly in camp, and the struggle now is to figure out how to utilize both our talented runners. Making it more fuzzy is the fact that Hunt absolutely excels in the wide zone rush attack, which is precisely what we will run.

If I had to GUESS, I would think it will look more like your first scenario with Hunt being the traditional 3rd down back and Chubb getting the lion's share of the carries, but there's something to remember, and that's the fact this administration didn't draft Chubb. They obviously love the man, but if they think Hunt delivers more bang for the buck they'll play him, I have no doubt. And as good as Chubb is near the goal line, Kareem Hunt is on a different level from virtually anyone else in the world. He's so quick running or catching it and inside the 5 yard line will be anyone's guess. Fantasy wise, they're both going to take from the other.