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  • Good news or bad news depending on how you look at it...

    "The Browns practiced without four of their five top cornerbacks. That the passing game still couldn’t gain any traction either says the offense is struggling or the Browns have the deepest secondary in modern football history."

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/passing-offense-continues-sputter-browns-113246803.html

  • Good news or bad news depending on how you look at it...

    "The Browns practiced without four of their five top cornerbacks. That the passing game still couldn’t gain any traction either says the offense is struggling or the Browns have the deepest secondary in modern football history."

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/passing-offense-continues-sputter-browns-113246803.html

    @d-bone said:

    Good news or bad news depending on how you look at it...

    "The Browns practiced without four of their five top cornerbacks. That the passing game still couldn’t gain any traction either says the offense is struggling or the Browns have the deepest secondary in modern football history."

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/passing-offense-continues-sputter-browns-113246803.html

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

  • @d-bone said:

    Good news or bad news depending on how you look at it...

    "The Browns practiced without four of their five top cornerbacks. That the passing game still couldn’t gain any traction either says the offense is struggling or the Browns have the deepest secondary in modern football history."

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/passing-offense-continues-sputter-browns-113246803.html

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

    Pretty in Pink.?

  • @d-bone said:

    Good news or bad news depending on how you look at it...

    "The Browns practiced without four of their five top cornerbacks. That the passing game still couldn’t gain any traction either says the offense is struggling or the Browns have the deepest secondary in modern football history."

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/passing-offense-continues-sputter-browns-113246803.html

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

    Of course it's possible to have a good bit of both.

    - New coach, new OC, new personnel, new language, new philosophy (to an extent)   COVID struck so - limited off season work, no OTA's, no mini camps...

    - Joe Woods is comes in, puts players in a better position to succeed, cuts down his calls to make the early digestion of  the defense easier,  players fly around faster having to think less...

  • @d-bone said:

    Good news or bad news depending on how you look at it...

    "The Browns practiced without four of their five top cornerbacks. That the passing game still couldn’t gain any traction either says the offense is struggling or the Browns have the deepest secondary in modern football history."

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/passing-offense-continues-sputter-browns-113246803.html

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    It has to be the latter, because the former cannot be true. Freddie Kitchens was the sole reason the offense struggled last year.... ?

    It has Been a beating a dead horse competition on this issue.  You are kind on onboard where I saw things last year.

    Blame assignment game:

     Baker 33% - Poor reads, poor movement in the pocket (did really well in the category his rookie year) leaving clean pockets, missed throws

    Playcaller/Personnel groups 33%- we were destined for failure I’d estimate a 33% prior to the snap.  I can go back each game and I’m sure if you read the comments of each game we have an abundance of head scratchers each game.

    Oline 16.5%- Baker and the past regime made this area more of need than it actually needed to be based on the above.  But no doubt their were series and a few games that the edges could not hold up.

    WRs 16.5%.- I love OBJ but he needs to improve his play and effort during play breakdowns.  Rolling and coming back to the QB.   There were times throughout the year we had a WR go left and he should have gone right.  We had injuries, guys sitting out before and during the season and guys playing hurt.  So continuity didn’t exist.

    I’m lost on the last 1% any guesses?

    anyway Joe Woods is darn good coordinator he will have a taller task this year in Cleveland than what he had in SF. He’s got some pieces here though.

  • Let's just leave it* at....some camp days were cancelled today, while the Browns got some work in... https://brownszone.com/2020/08/27/training-camp-log-day-11-3/    

  • They had their 1st indoor practice of the year today.  The field is a little shorter because the weight room is set up at one end now.

  • The Cleveland Browns officially added wide receiver Damion Willis to the 80-man roster on Saturday.

    To make room for Willis, the club released wide receiver D.J. Montgomery.

    The Browns claimed Willis off waivers from the Cincinnati Bengals on Wednesday but needed to wait for him to clear the COVID-19 screening and testing protocol before he could be added to the active roster.

    Willis, who is 6-foot-3 and 204 pounds, joined the Bengals in 2019 as an undrafted free agent out of Troy. He played 10 games for Cincinnati, making two starts, and finished his rookie season with nine receptions for 82 yards.

    He may be more widely known for playing two seasons at East Mississippi Community College, which was featured on the first two seasons of the Netflix documentary Last Chance U.

    The addition of Willis keeps Cleveland’s wide receiver group at a robust 11 players.

    Montgomery was an undrafted free agent in 2019 and he spent the entire season on Cleveland’s reserve/injured list after he had a hamstring injury during the preseason.

  • 5. Njoku’s Mysterious Disappearance: After coming out to begin practice, TE David Njoku walked back inside a little bit after, and “didn’t appear to be injured.”

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    Hi.  We'll be needing your playbook...

  • Missing preseason games? 

    Channel 5 in Cleveland is replaying the 2008 Browns vs NY Giants Monday Night Football game tonight, starting at 8. The Browns beat the reigning Super Bowl Champ Giants pretty handily. 

  • 5. Njoku’s Mysterious Disappearance: After coming out to begin practice, TE David Njoku walked back inside a little bit after, and “didn’t appear to be injured.”

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    Hi.  We'll be needing your playbook...

    @orion said:

    5. Njoku’s Mysterious Disappearance: After coming out to begin practice, TE David Njoku walked back inside a little bit after, and “didn’t appear to be injured.”

     Than the twitter verse went Njoku trade shopping.. and most are guessing maybe traded to Colts for FS Malik Hooker?..Colts may have lost their TE2.. guess we'll see shortly...

    Yanick Ngakoue really wanted out of J-ville...Traded to Vikings for a 21 2nd & a 2022 5th,that could get to a 4th or 3rd...Ngakoue as reported...maybe taking a deal just under 13M with Vikes, not needing to sign Jags tag price of over 17M?...Vikings? welcome to cap hell! but loaded up on defense..

    Finally... The Browns will play a inter-squad scrimmage today at FES, starting about 1:30.. Live updates can be found at cleveland.com...But, I'm not sure if Browns Daily will have access to airing it? 

    Two weeks away from at Ravens?  Was there ever a doubt? 😉.... ??  

  • @orion said:

    5. Njoku’s Mysterious Disappearance: After coming out to begin practice, TE David Njoku walked back inside a little bit after, and “didn’t appear to be injured.”

     Than the twitter verse went Njoku trade shopping.. and most are guessing maybe traded to Colts for FS Malik Hooker?..Colts may have lost their TE2.. guess we'll see shortly...

    Yanick Ngakoue really wanted out of J-ville...Traded to Vikings for a 21 2nd & a 2022 5th,that could get to a 4th or 3rd...Ngakoue as reported...maybe taking a deal just under 13M with Vikes, not needing to sign Jags tag price of over 17M?...Vikings? welcome to cap hell! but loaded up on defense..

    Finally... The Browns will play a inter-squad scrimmage today at FES, starting about 1:30.. Live updates can be found at cleveland.com...But, I'm not sure if Browns Daily will have access to airing it? 

    Two weeks away from at Ravens?  Was there ever a doubt? 😉.... ??  

    @gumby73 said:

    Finally... The Browns will play a inter-squad scrimmage today at FES, starting about 1:30.. Live updates can be found at cleveland.com...But, I'm not sure if Browns Daily will have access to airing it?   

    Last night I swear I heard Grossi say that from here to the start of the season practices are closed to the media. 

    With no preseason games and with baseball only a month or so into their season (but only a month or so until it ends) I sometimes forget its almost September. Hard to believe the season is almost starting, and with a new coaching staff and no real offseason, I sure hope they are ready for it. 

    Hell, only a week until I post Dutch's Questions... everyone start figuring out their Browns predictions!  

  • Is there going to be a Tavern on here this year? 

  • @orion said:

    5. Njoku’s Mysterious Disappearance: After coming out to begin practice, TE David Njoku walked back inside a little bit after, and “didn’t appear to be injured.”

     Than the twitter verse went Njoku trade shopping.. and most are guessing maybe traded to Colts for FS Malik Hooker?..Colts may have lost their TE2.. guess we'll see shortly...

    Yanick Ngakoue really wanted out of J-ville...Traded to Vikings for a 21 2nd & a 2022 5th,that could get to a 4th or 3rd...Ngakoue as reported...maybe taking a deal just under 13M with Vikes, not needing to sign Jags tag price of over 17M?...Vikings? welcome to cap hell! but loaded up on defense..

    Finally... The Browns will play a inter-squad scrimmage today at FES, starting about 1:30.. Live updates can be found at cleveland.com...But, I'm not sure if Browns Daily will have access to airing it? 

    Two weeks away from at Ravens?  Was there ever a doubt? 😉.... ??  

    @gumby73 said:

    Yanick Ngakoue really wanted out of J-ville...Traded to Vikings for a 21 2nd & a 2022 5th,that could get to a 4th or 3rd...Ngakoue as reported...maybe taking a deal just under 13M with Vikes, not needing to sign Jags tag price of over 17M?...Vikings? welcome to cap hell! but loaded up on defense..

    Anybody trust Cabot's sources on this one? https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/the-browns-had-serious-trade-talks-for-yannick-ngakoue-dealt-to-the-vikings-but-opted-to-move-on.html

  • youtube browns live ....or nfl network

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Njoku has big day down at First Energy.... 

    One never knows what to expect with Njoku.  He's a roller coaster.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Njoku has big day down at First Energy.... 

    One never knows what to expect with Njoku.  He's a roller coaster.

    @orion said:

    One never knows what to expect with Njoku.  He's a roller coaster.

    He really is. 

    They used a first rounder on a physically talented, but raw 21 year old kid... and in many ways he's still just that. 

    I think there's room for three talented TEs in this offense, though. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Njoku has big day down at First Energy.... 

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/08/david-njoku-has-a-big-day-at-firstenergy-stadium-browns-training-camp-observations.html 

    @orion said:

    One never knows what to expect with Njoku.  He's a roller coaster.

    2 minute drill vid.

  • Finally... getting a day off.. I got to watch Browns Live actually LIVE*.... some of what i saw

    1) Kenum is legit. a) Few wasted steps working around the pocket.. b.) gets the ball out quickly to the right guy. accurate c) he's not counting on seeing the receiver than throwing..he's trusting the playbook than leading receivers to his thrown ball.. world of difference, from Baker right now..

    2.) I don't mind the 2's being legit either..at some point, we can interchange them within the packages/units. Either Woods has got his players in the right spots? Or and by now? They know the playbook just as well as the offense too? were not solely relying on LB's in coverage.. groups are flocking to the football..

    3.) We showed nothing that says we can stop the Run less than 5 yards downfield?..... But for god please....Run the damn Rock!! than do it again...?

    4) Pre-snap delay of games & False Starts & illegal formations.... ? Stop them 🥷..being stupid will cost you drives..... while holding sometimes saves lives..