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  • @jrb12711 said:

    Baker has the 2nd leading rusher, a back up RB they paid 13 million dollars, a five time pro bowl WR who set the record for most receptions through 5 years, the highest paid TE in the league, and a WR most consider top 10 in the nfl. Three of our offensive lineman and pro bowlers, and our tackle is a top 10 pick. Not to mention, Baker was numero uno drafted. 

    None of that is true for ravens on offense and we just got embarrassed. Willie Snead will have more yards than OBJ today. Should I instead explain that like a 2nd grader to you?

    I think the interpretation is saying Baker is more talented than Lamar. I read it that way as well.  Probably should’ve said, more talent around him.

    @baconhound said:

    I think the interpretation is saying Baker is more talented than Lamar. I read it that way as well.  Probably should’ve said, more talent around him.

    I mean my original comment pretty clearly says “talent around him”. Don’t know why that was cut off.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    The defense is a bunch of nobodies playing against arguably the 2nd best QB in the league. ObJ is an 18 million dollar player who had a gimme catch that he dropped that completely changes the outlook of this game. He deserves way more blame. 

    OBJ is not working out. How some of you keep defending him is outrageous. I don't care about anything but production, and anything that hinders production is then an issue. I don't care what skank he has sh---g on him, what color his hair is, but for SOME reason, he is NOT working out in Da Land. I think it helps lead to the total team underperformance. 

    Did anyone else notice that Baker never seems to stand up in the pocket, and move up when there is pressure? I saw Jackson do it several times, one for a TD. All Baker seems to do is run backwards or to the side and that causes him to be limited in who he can throw to; always ends up with a pop gun throw to someone covered. It's just bad. No better than last season. 

    @icecube said:

    OBJ is not working out. How some of you keep defending him is outrageous. I don't care about anything but production, and anything that hinders production is then an issue. I don't care what skank he has sh---g on him, what color his hair is, but for SOME reason, he is NOT working out in Da Land. I think it helps lead to the total team underperformance. 

    Did anyone else notice that Baker never seems to stand up in the pocket, and move up when there is pressure? I saw Jackson do it several times, one for a TD. All Baker seems to do is run backwards or to the side and that causes him to be limited in who he can throw to; always ends up with a pop gun throw to someone covered. It's just bad. No better than last season. 

    It was overtly obvious Baker was told to force the ball to him 3rd quarter. It obviously didn’t work. His demeanor is one of someone who doesn’t give a shit.

    and yes, for sure. The pocket was VERY clean today for 6. He bailed too early multiple times.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    None of those players were drafted by the Cleveland Browns... please don’t forget the situation Baker was drafted into. This game was not on Baker. Baltimore is better and has more continuity. Fake punt down 7-0? 3rd and 2 drop? Can’t blame the QB for stuff that. Yea the INT sucked but our defense couldn’t stop Baltimore anyways. 

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    @d-bone said:

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    The week 1 in a new system eye test? Against Baltimore?
    I won’t overreact. 

  • Would have killed to see a double move from ODB today.

    Balt played like they had zero fear of the deep ball.  Just attacked the first thing in front of them all day.

  • @icecube said:

    Did anyone else notice that Baker never seems to stand up in the pocket, and move up when there is pressure? I saw Jackson do it several times, one for a TD. All Baker seems to do is run backwards or to the side and that causes him to be limited in who he can throw to; always ends up with a pop gun throw to someone covered. It's just bad. No better than last season. 

    Yeah, I noticed it. I noticed him not being able to complete hardly anything and frequently missing his release valve. He looked very bad, no other way to say it. I certainly don't want him benched, but he's got 1 more half. If he lays an egg, I can promise we'll see Keenum. You have to be able to move the sticks. He was awful today. Remember, just because Keenum might come in, it doesn't mean Baker lost the job. Just means that we're looking for a spark. Can't go 0-2 and 0-2 in division. Stefanski will try everything. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Yeah, I noticed it. I noticed him not being able to complete hardly anything and frequently missing his release valve. He looked very bad, no other way to say it. I certainly don't want him benched, but he's got 1 more half. If he lays an egg, I can promise we'll see Keenum. You have to be able to move the sticks. He was awful today. Remember, just because Keenum might come in, it doesn't mean Baker lost the job. Just means that we're looking for a spark. Can't go 0-2 and 0-2 in division. Stefanski will try everything. 

    They are not benching Baker the 2nd game into the season. Also a lot of this probably had to do with going against probably the best secondary in the NFL and falling far behind. Bet the tone of the game is different if OBJ catches that ball on 3rd and 2 at the end of the half. If we were able to have a more balanced attack Baker's numbers would have been better. Lets also not forget the whole team is learning yet another system for the 2nd year in a row and does so with less practice then they would normally get. I wouldn't panic after 1 game against a team that 14-2 last year.

  • @d-bone said:

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    The week 1 in a new system eye test? Against Baltimore?
    I won’t overreact. 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    The week 1 in a new system eye test? Against Baltimore?
    I won’t overreact. 

    Way more than this game for me. He looked no different than he did for 16 games last year, and he is what he is. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Yeah, I noticed it. I noticed him not being able to complete hardly anything and frequently missing his release valve. He looked very bad, no other way to say it. I certainly don't want him benched, but he's got 1 more half. If he lays an egg, I can promise we'll see Keenum. You have to be able to move the sticks. He was awful today. Remember, just because Keenum might come in, it doesn't mean Baker lost the job. Just means that we're looking for a spark. Can't go 0-2 and 0-2 in division. Stefanski will try everything. 

    They are not benching Baker the 2nd game into the season. Also a lot of this probably had to do with going against probably the best secondary in the NFL and falling far behind. Bet the tone of the game is different if OBJ catches that ball on 3rd and 2 at the end of the half. If we were able to have a more balanced attack Baker's numbers would have been better. Lets also not forget the whole team is learning yet another system for the 2nd year in a row and does so with less practice then they would normally get. I wouldn't panic after 1 game against a team that 14-2 last year.

    @runyon27 said:

    They are not benching Baker the 2nd game into the season. Also a lot of this probably had to do with going against probably the best secondary in the NFL and falling far behind. Bet the tone of the game is different if OBJ catches that ball on 3rd and 2 at the end of the half. If we were able to have a more balanced attack Baker's numbers would have been better. Lets also not forget the whole team is learning yet another system for the 2nd year in a row and does so with less practice then they would normally get. I wouldn't panic after 1 game against a team that 14-2 last year.

    I didn't say bench for the year, but you can bet your ass he'll be on the pine if he's playing poorly again. Stefanski knows Keenum from Minnesota and likes him. I don't WANT this to happen. I think you're right, in that it was a monstrously difficult game playing in a new system. But Keenum knows the system and we can't go down 0-2 in division. I WANT Baker to be the guy, more than anything. I just know what I saw today. 

  • Everyone just looked and played disinterested.... That falls on the HC... discouraging!

  • @icecube said:

    OBJ is not working out. How some of you keep defending him is outrageous. I don't care about anything but production, and anything that hinders production is then an issue. I don't care what skank he has sh---g on him, what color his hair is, but for SOME reason, he is NOT working out in Da Land. I think it helps lead to the total team underperformance. 

    Did anyone else notice that Baker never seems to stand up in the pocket, and move up when there is pressure? I saw Jackson do it several times, one for a TD. All Baker seems to do is run backwards or to the side and that causes him to be limited in who he can throw to; always ends up with a pop gun throw to someone covered. It's just bad. No better than last season. 

    It was overtly obvious Baker was told to force the ball to him 3rd quarter. It obviously didn’t work. His demeanor is one of someone who doesn’t give a shit.

    and yes, for sure. The pocket was VERY clean today for 6. He bailed too early multiple times.

    @jrb12711 said:

    It was overtly obvious Baker was told to force the ball to him 3rd quarter. It obviously didn’t work. His demeanor is one of someone who doesn’t give a shit.

    and yes, for sure. The pocket was VERY clean today for 6. He bailed too early multiple times.

    It's like he never did anything to improve from last year; he looks like the exact same player - new coach, new OC, added better players....and none of it meant anything. I saw the same BM as last year, no difference. And for the love of God why can't ANY receivers get any separation? How can they not ever get open? 

  • Luck of the draw or just a fancy way of saying that we still can’t play with the big dogs? 
    rats- 38

    anal ytics- 6

    now them are some numbers that matter—— pilgrim

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    None of those players were drafted by the Cleveland Browns... please don’t forget the situation Baker was drafted into. This game was not on Baker. Baltimore is better and has more continuity. Fake punt down 7-0? 3rd and 2 drop? Can’t blame the QB for stuff that. Yea the INT sucked but our defense couldn’t stop Baltimore anyways. 

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    @d-bone said:

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    Maybe that's the solution and that way we have someone moving the rock consistently. 

  • Everyone just looked and played disinterested.... That falls on the HC... discouraging!

    @nickers said:

    Everyone just looked and played disinterested.... That falls on the HC... discouraging!

    The only thing Steff did well was wear his mask, which I actually find as a negative. I'd rather have a coach who ripped that thing off in passion instead of proving the perfect example of how he was told to wear it. Remember when Hoodie tried to comply with that Microsoft Touch tablet and it wasn't working so he smashed it on the bench? I'd prefer that kind of politically incorrectness that gets the job done, not look all politically correct but suck. 

  • Everyone just looked and played disinterested.... That falls on the HC... discouraging!

    @nickers said:

    Everyone just looked and played disinterested.... That falls on the HC... discouraging!

    I sense a total lack of leadership to be found anywhere on that team. It comes down to Mr. Jimmy. 

  • @nickers said:

    Everyone just looked and played disinterested.... That falls on the HC... discouraging!

    The only thing Steff did well was wear his mask, which I actually find as a negative. I'd rather have a coach who ripped that thing off in passion instead of proving the perfect example of how he was told to wear it. Remember when Hoodie tried to comply with that Microsoft Touch tablet and it wasn't working so he smashed it on the bench? I'd prefer that kind of politically incorrectness that gets the job done, not look all politically correct but suck. 

    @icecube said:

    The only thing Steff did well was wear his mask, which I actually find as a negative. I'd rather have a coach who ripped that thing off in passion instead of proving the perfect example of how he was told to wear it. Remember when Hoodie tried to comply with that Microsoft Touch tablet and it wasn't working so he smashed it on the bench? I'd prefer that kind of politically incorrectness that gets the job done, not look all politically correct but suck. 

    Moneytard got his soyboy HC.... What can I say...

  • @baconhound said:

    I think the interpretation is saying Baker is more talented than Lamar. I read it that way as well.  Probably should’ve said, more talent around him.

    I mean my original comment pretty clearly says “talent around him”. Don’t know why that was cut off.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I mean my original comment pretty clearly says “talent around him”. Don’t know why that was cut off.

    Well it was so that’s where the confusion came in.  Probably was what was posted before the edit ?

  • Sweet baby Jesus, please let Baker Mayfield be good and end our suffering with the QB position. In Bernie Kosar's name we pray, amen. 

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    None of those players were drafted by the Cleveland Browns... please don’t forget the situation Baker was drafted into. This game was not on Baker. Baltimore is better and has more continuity. Fake punt down 7-0? 3rd and 2 drop? Can’t blame the QB for stuff that. Yea the INT sucked but our defense couldn’t stop Baltimore anyways. 

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    @d-bone said:

    Man, if you can't see that Baker is not passing the eye test, then we are watching 2 different players under center for the Browns. 

    In the pocket I see your case, but man, did he make some nice throws on the move.

    I think time makes him think too much.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Pretty difficult watching a rival quarterback turning into a superstar while your number one pick is failing to progress, especially when your dude has clearly better talent. Only silver lining today here Is that outside the chiefs this was the toughest week one draw in the NFL.

    It's really frustrating, man. I just don't understand how an organization can suck so bad for so long without showing any signs of improvement over decades. It just boggles the mind.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    It's really frustrating, man. I just don't understand how an organization can suck so bad for so long without showing any signs of improvement over decades. It just boggles the mind.

    Mr. Jimmy

  • We really need to get to Thursday and have a good game. Short week is actually a blessing. 

  • Missed opportunity- Game was over at half.  So why not Work on  this new offense not 4 - 5 wide with Baker pumping it for 5 seconds and throwing into 7 man coverages.