***Official Gameday Thread Browns at Ravens
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I'm amazed by those who think everything in this world is black and white. "Gee, if you can blame anything else for sucking, then OBJ must not be one of the problems." That is like preschool level thinking. The two are not mutually exclusive: You see, OBJ can suck at the same time when other players/coaches suck. Don't you grasp that? An OBJ brings much more darkness than just dropping a pass. And in a mere few weeks he will showcase his twisted attitude. Someone could say it's a real sh--y attitude.
I do see that that was my point that you’re pointing all the fingers at OBJ when the whole rest of the team sucked swamp water. I am not saying he didn’t suck too but people act like 38 to 6 loss was all on his shoulders
I do see that that was my point that you’re pointing all the fingers at OBJ when the whole rest of the team sucked swamp water. I am not saying he didn’t suck too but people act like 38 to 6 loss was all on his shoulders
Well, I don't put it all on OBJ, but he didn't help. There is something inherently wrong with this team. Did you notice the body language?
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I do see that that was my point that you’re pointing all the fingers at OBJ when the whole rest of the team sucked swamp water. I am not saying he didn’t suck too but people act like 38 to 6 loss was all on his shoulders
Well, I don't put it all on OBJ, but he didn't help. There is something inherently wrong with this team. Did you notice the body language?
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I know this is hard, but this is a new coaching staff coming off a very trying offseason.
I know they looked horrible, but hopefully they rebound in the next few weeks. I'm not saying they will, but I'm going to try to give them a bit of time to really judge how things look.
OBJ, on the other hand? This is just Groundhog Day with him at this point.
I know this is hard, but this is a new coaching staff coming off a very trying offseason.
I know they looked horrible, but hopefully they rebound in the next few weeks. I'm not saying they will, but I'm going to try to give them a bit of time to really judge how things look.
OBJ, on the other hand? This is just Groundhog Day with him at this point.
Soooooooo, I went back and watched a couple things. I wanted to see if Baker missed OBJ as many times as I thought. Unfortunately, he did. There were two deep-ish throws down the middle that Baker threw behind OBJ, and one should have resulted in a pick but OBJ did enough to disrupt the play. These were the exact throws Lamar Jackson made with ease. There were multiple other times where Baker appeared to be looking right at an open guy but didn't pull the trigger. THAT'S what concerns me.
Baker's struggles had very little to do with knowledge of the offense. You don't have to be knowledgeable to make an accurate throw. To hit your release valve for 6 yards on 2nd and 10. To find your bazillion dollar TE for more than FIFTEEN FREAKING YARDS.
Baker didn't just look bad, he WAS bad, and I'm not sure he's redeemable. If you can't make intermediate throws down the seam or across the middle, you can't play QB. The really sad thing is that he used to be KNOWN for those passes. Whatever is wrong with Baker is between his ears, and I don't know if that's fixable. He was truly worse than people are saying, and I'm not sure what to do next.
Baker will likely be down in a good chunk of games this year. At this point, I literally have no idea who our linebackers are going to be because Phillips is gone for the year (I assume). The Ravens had people running WIDE open Sunday, and even when people were covered they STILL made every catch. Our offense is not designed to come from behind, so we're going to need our defense to simply find a way to keep us in it until our offense (ahem, our QUARTERBACK) finds his footing....or God help us...gets replaced.
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I do see that that was my point that you’re pointing all the fingers at OBJ when the whole rest of the team sucked swamp water. I am not saying he didn’t suck too but people act like 38 to 6 loss was all on his shoulders
Well, I don't put it all on OBJ, but he didn't help. There is something inherently wrong with this team. Did you notice the body language?
Well, I don't put it all on OBJ, but he didn't help. There is something inherently wrong with this team. Did you notice the body language?
Bingo. And it isn't about the coaches, nor the owner. We saw not a shred of difference in this team yesterday from Freddies team, nor Hues team.
There is no way a team should be this bad for this long.
I do see that that was my point that you’re pointing all the fingers at OBJ when the whole rest of the team sucked swamp water. I am not saying he didn’t suck too but people act like 38 to 6 loss was all on his shoulders
He's supposed to be a great player.
Great players have had this tendency at times to carry a team when they suck.
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This article about how bad Baker played and you're not going to like it.
This article about how bad Baker played and you're not going to like it.
Seems he picked up where he left off last year.
Does this mean we have the worst QB in the division?
...again.?
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I'm going to treat this like I'm a bookie that you owe a debt too. I understand, times is tough out there. I'll expect you to be back tomorrow with double.
Hey tia did you catch the Broncos-Titans game? One thing that Tannehill did was pull the Def offsides at a crucial point and the commentator said that the best pro QBs
in the NFL in the empty stadium environment were doing what great experienced pro QBs do, double counts and hard counts.
Hey tia did you catch the Broncos-Titans game? One thing that Tannehill did was pull the Def offsides at a crucial point and the commentator said that the best pro QBs
in the NFL in the empty stadium environment were doing what great experienced pro QBs do, double counts and hard counts.
I did not, but I'll be sure to go back and watch.
Ditto on the analysis, but...
I just can't help but think Baker's issue is a simple one... namely that he's no longer playing football. Now he's a professional QB with a job.
Think back 2 years when he was younger and dumber and fuller of... think back another year to OU... even in big games like in Columbus he was playing... he was an ass and a poor winer, but he was playing a game. He was was cocksure... he was unflappable... he believed in himself.
Now with a job in a bigger faster league he just playing scared to screw up... and so naturally that's what he does. He's playing "tight".
By my recollection he cut loose only three throws on Sunday. Two were on the run (not by design) when he couldn't think he just reacted... and played a little ball.
Somehow he's got to find the fun again... and Stef needs to help him find it.
I honestly have to disagree... To an extent.
The throw I just pointing out is probably the best example of just "cutting loose". There is a time and a place for that - Russel Wilson is the best example. But you also need to have fun while methodically working within the structure of the offense v what the defense has shown.
Otherwise you just want to grip it and rip it every down and that does make you another Johnny Manziel.
Baker needs to play with a measure of control and also know when to be the gun slinger off script. If he only functions as the latter, then he'll never be a solution to the franchise without being the former as well.
Some of those poor throws Sunday to open receivers were him just cutting too loose. As a result, he puts too much into his throw and it sails. Yes, it's a thing.
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Leaving clean pockets was a huge issue last year. And he seemed to be late and behind on a lot of receivers yesterday.
He threw to a ton of wide open WRs at OU. Lincoln Riley is/was a great play caller and of course these aren’t BigXII Defenses either
Are you blaming the play caller? WRs? Oline?
Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker.
Yes, Riley is a hell of a coach. And you'll notice one of the first things he brought back to the OU attack was making play action the foundation of the offense. Doesn't matter if it was lateral or downhill action, Baker rarely threw downfield unless it involved a play fake first. And when he would attempt without...? Well, you'll have to find my pre-draft assessment of him somewhere I here, but I remember not being kind to how he poorly read coverage off a straight drop.
Blame? I'm not looking for blame at this moment, I'm looking for fixes. The oline wasn't the biggest issue, and It's hard to just "assign" blame to the WR's if you can't be on the same page as your QB. If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
Blame? I'm not looking for blame at this moment, I'm looking for fixes. The oline wasn't the biggest issue, and It's hard to just "assign" blame to the WR's if you can't be on the same page as your QB.
Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker
If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
outstanding worded pair of dilemmas here ^^ Tia.. The same type of stuff the all 22's showed last season too... Tennessee & Ravens 2nd game, saw tons of designed 1st false coverage's. That only gets Baker confused. (The Ghosts) Bake than will panic, not taking his ?'s off 1st read, pulling the ball down, to broken plays or fire drill plays.. ?.. Does our QB room watch our opponents coverage tape?
Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Aaron Donald’s dominant SNF performance was one of the best from Week 1Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Blame? I'm not looking for blame at this moment, I'm looking for fixes. The oline wasn't the biggest issue, and It's hard to just "assign" blame to the WR's if you can't be on the same page as your QB.
Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker
If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
outstanding worded pair of dilemmas here ^^ Tia.. The same type of stuff the all 22's showed last season too... Tennessee & Ravens 2nd game, saw tons of designed 1st false coverage's. That only gets Baker confused. (The Ghosts) Bake than will panic, not taking his ?'s off 1st read, pulling the ball down, to broken plays or fire drill plays.. ?.. Does our QB room watch our opponents coverage tape?
Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Aaron Donald’s dominant SNF performance was one of the best from Week 1Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker
If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
outstanding worded pair of dilemmas here ^^ Tia.. The same type of stuff the all 22's showed last season too... Tennessee & Ravens 2nd game, saw tons of designed 1st false coverage's. That only gets Baker confused. Bake than will panic, not taking his ?'s off 1st read, pulling the ball down, to broken plays or fire drill plays.. ?.. Does our QB room watch our opponents coverage tape?
Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Aaron Donald’s dominant SNF performance was one of the best from Week 1Larry O is fine... everyone else around him is garbage.. And Myles Garrett still has no POSITIVE effect on the outcome of games.. He's NOT a game changer by any stretch of the imagination..,,,,
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This article about how bad Baker played and you're not going to like it.
Seems he picked up where he left off last year.
Does this mean we have the worst QB in the division?
...again.?
Seems he picked up where he left off last year.
Does this mean we have the worst QB in the division?
...again.?
Right now, yes we do. Burrow lead his team down the field and threw the winning TD but refs called offensive PI and Bengals missed the tying FG. Burrow definitely got better in the 2nd half, and that's not great for us. Additionally, we literally have no secondary and no linebackers. Well, Denzel Ward is a stud, but that's it.
Watch the Baker's first appearance against the Jets and watch his play Sunday. It's not the same guy. We DO have to calm down a little bit and understand that we likely played the 2nd best team in the league. Like, how would Burrow look against the Ravens? Probably not great. My biggest concern is that Baker couldn't deliver the ball to open people and he largely looked like a backup QB. He did nothing special. Even his TD was thrown to a WIDE OPEN guy.
Our defense has been decimated by injuries and our QB is a head case. If we win Thursday, it'll be a slug fest. I'd honestly feel better if Baker would have just completed SOME of the 3rd down throws and scored SOME points. His inability to score in garbage time really terrifies me, and we were absolutely the worst team in the league Sunday.
We have a short week and a humongous division game in 2 freaking days. It's time to change the narrative and make a statement. We come out and play a solid game that brings us a W...we'll be right back on track. We shit the bed and lose...well...it'll be bad. VERY bad.
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Seems he picked up where he left off last year.
Does this mean we have the worst QB in the division?
...again.?
Right now, yes we do. Burrow lead his team down the field and threw the winning TD but refs called offensive PI and Bengals missed the tying FG. Burrow definitely got better in the 2nd half, and that's not great for us. Additionally, we literally have no secondary and no linebackers. Well, Denzel Ward is a stud, but that's it.
Watch the Baker's first appearance against the Jets and watch his play Sunday. It's not the same guy. We DO have to calm down a little bit and understand that we likely played the 2nd best team in the league. Like, how would Burrow look against the Ravens? Probably not great. My biggest concern is that Baker couldn't deliver the ball to open people and he largely looked like a backup QB. He did nothing special. Even his TD was thrown to a WIDE OPEN guy.
Our defense has been decimated by injuries and our QB is a head case. If we win Thursday, it'll be a slug fest. I'd honestly feel better if Baker would have just completed SOME of the 3rd down throws and scored SOME points. His inability to score in garbage time really terrifies me, and we were absolutely the worst team in the league Sunday.
We have a short week and a humongous division game in 2 freaking days. It's time to change the narrative and make a statement. We come out and play a solid game that brings us a W...we'll be right back on track. We shit the bed and lose...well...it'll be bad. VERY bad.
Right now, yes we do. Burrow lead his team down the field and threw the winning TD but refs called offensive PI and Bengals missed the tying FG. Burrow definitely got better in the 2nd half, and that's not great for us. Additionally, we literally have no secondary and no linebackers. Well, Denzel Ward is a stud, but that's it.
Watch the Baker's first appearance against the Jets and watch his play Sunday. It's not the same guy. We DO have to calm down a little bit and understand that we likely played the 2nd best team in the league. Like, how would Burrow look against the Ravens? Probably not great. My biggest concern is that Baker couldn't deliver the ball to open people and he largely looked like a backup QB. He did nothing special. Even his TD was thrown to a WIDE OPEN guy.
Our defense has been decimated by injuries and our QB is a head case. If we win Thursday, it'll be a slug fest. I'd honestly feel better if Baker would have just completed SOME of the 3rd down throws and scored SOME points. His inability to score in garbage time really terrifies me, and we were absolutely the worst team in the league Sunday.
We have a short week and a humongous division game in 2 freaking days. It's time to change the narrative and make a statement. We come out and play a solid game that brings us a W...we'll be right back on track. We shit the bed and lose...well...it'll be bad. VERY bad.
Well one good thing about playing Cincy for the #1 vs. #2 draft pick overall. We can win the game and be #2, but they have their QB. Hello Lawrence!
Meanwhile back at the ranch, I'm betting Baker is replaced by game 8 or earlier by a more trusted & experienced QB in this offense-Case Keenum. Baker has
met the brick wall of mediocrity unless he suddenly "gets it". I think tia's review was spot on unfortunately.
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Two things with Baker since 2018.
1. Movement in the pocket was better that’s why the Russ comparisons were prevalent. He was chubby last year. And when things got bad He had a check down option throughout 2018- last year the play caller didn’t believe in it2. He wasn’t asked to go empty sets and sling it downfield that often. His accuracy issues that he has now were not exposed due to the offensive scheme (being under center, more play action, 25-30 throw type games).
I hate to say it but I think you see a guy not putting in the work too.
Sunday I said oh $&@@ every time we were in empty sets. We’ve been awful in this set going on two years now. He’s late and behind too many times - not processing reads quickly enoughThe line is not the problem, OBJ can be better, but QBs around the league deal with far greater issues. The line took the fall last year- they performed well at times but we all pointed out to the 3-4 bad games when in reality our play caller and QB were always the main issue
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Two things with Baker since 2018.
1. Movement in the pocket was better that’s why the Russ comparisons were prevalent. He was chubby last year. And when things got bad He had a check down option throughout 2018- last year the play caller didn’t believe in it2. He wasn’t asked to go empty sets and sling it downfield that often. His accuracy issues that he has now were not exposed due to the offensive scheme (being under center, more play action, 25-30 throw type games).
I hate to say it but I think you see a guy not putting in the work too.
Sunday I said oh $&@@ every time we were in empty sets. We’ve been awful in this set going on two years now. He’s late and behind too many times - not processing reads quickly enoughThe line is not the problem, OBJ can be better, but QBs around the league deal with far greater issues. The line took the fall last year- they performed well at times but we all pointed out to the 3-4 bad games when in reality our play caller and QB were always the main issue
The line is not the problem, OBJ can be better, but QBs around the league deal with far greater issues
Yeah, you're right. What bugs me is missing the throws that are there. Lamar Jackson literally didn't miss ONE in first half. And he wasn't supposed to be able to pass accurately.
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I think Baker will be fine? (hope) - it's a brand new offense - going against a defense that is one of the best in the NFL.
They seemed to be thinking instead of just playing. That's to be expected especially without a preseason to iron out the kinks.
Here's to a win Thurs.
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The line is not the problem, OBJ can be better, but QBs around the league deal with far greater issues
Yeah, you're right. What bugs me is missing the throws that are there. Lamar Jackson literally didn't miss ONE in first half. And he wasn't supposed to be able to pass accurately.
Yeah, you're right. What bugs me is missing the throws that are there. Lamar Jackson literally didn't miss ONE in first half. And he wasn't supposed to be able to pass accurately.
True, except Lamar was going against an injury plagued secondary, and Baker was going against a top secondary, probably the best in the NFL. It's said they have the top three db's in the NFL, so there's that.
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Blame? I'm not looking for blame at this moment, I'm looking for fixes. The oline wasn't the biggest issue, and It's hard to just "assign" blame to the WR's if you can't be on the same page as your QB.
Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker
If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
outstanding worded pair of dilemmas here ^^ Tia.. The same type of stuff the all 22's showed last season too... Tennessee & Ravens 2nd game, saw tons of designed 1st false coverage's. That only gets Baker confused. (The Ghosts) Bake than will panic, not taking his ?'s off 1st read, pulling the ball down, to broken plays or fire drill plays.. ?.. Does our QB room watch our opponents coverage tape?
Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Aaron Donald’s dominant SNF performance was one of the best from Week 1Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker
If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
outstanding worded pair of dilemmas here ^^ Tia.. The same type of stuff the all 22's showed last season too... Tennessee & Ravens 2nd game, saw tons of designed 1st false coverage's. That only gets Baker confused. (The Ghosts) Bake than will panic, not taking his ?'s off 1st read, pulling the ball down, to broken plays or fire drill plays.. ?.. Does our QB room watch our opponents coverage tape?
Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Aaron Donald’s dominant SNF performance was one of the best from Week 1Can't stress this enough, Bakers timing from the gun is just "off". He's much more in rythmn under center. Tour was the first to point that out last season and by 1/4 through the year it was readily apparent to anyone with a pair of eyes.
I think being a bit more, i guess ill use the word "creative" with our play action, might help solve some temporary issues. JoJo Natson is a high 4.3 runner, some of those tap sweeps, even the fakes and misdirection that the Chiefs show go a long way into slowing down a pass rush and giving Mahomes increased time to throw without pressure. Of course that sets up things like the screen game as well which this coaching staff desperately needs to also creatively involve more often. That was one of the nice things about those early days after Freddie took over as OC... I haven't seen our screen or misdirection game work that well in years.
Involving the backs in the passing game on non-blatantly obvious throwing downs+distances can really help get Baker in rythmn as well. I like Stef as a coach, but he leaves a whole cadre of attack methods off the table in favor of a more "traditional" approach far too often.
And the lack of commitment to the run game early is a sign of a play caller turned HC over thinking things far much. He saw the stuff Campbell put on Chubb and went empty sets on early downs. Without doing the math, I'd wager the numbers crunch out to show that as our most inefficient formation based on expected yardage gain.
Edit: and yes, Jobi played like an animal. I said it a year or so ago, but when he puts it together consistently, he's our future 3 tech when we move on from Sheldon. If he continues playing at a high level by mid-season, Barry would be wise to get him locked up to a smart deal. 3 maybe 4 years. He isn't such a name where he'll command a ton of cash. But between Jobi, Billings, possibly Elliot - you could have a good interior rotation for the next 4 year's rather inexpensive. And much like how the Gmen did it for years, that's the approach i take to IDL. Notable exceptions of course (Donald, Cox, Buckner)
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The line is not the problem, OBJ can be better, but QBs around the league deal with far greater issues
Yeah, you're right. What bugs me is missing the throws that are there. Lamar Jackson literally didn't miss ONE in first half. And he wasn't supposed to be able to pass accurately.
Yeah, you're right. What bugs me is missing the throws that are there. Lamar Jackson literally didn't miss ONE in first half. And he wasn't supposed to be able to pass accurately.
I agree he made his plays.
But Lamar made one tough throw deep and on the money. He missed Mark Andrews until mark Andrews bailed him out and he didn’t throw into tight windows or coverage all game. He played a defense petrified of getting gashed in the run game. Baker played a defense waiting for us to go down field and change the score quickly -
Blame? I'm not looking for blame at this moment, I'm looking for fixes. The oline wasn't the biggest issue, and It's hard to just "assign" blame to the WR's if you can't be on the same page as your QB.
Ghosts and anticipating pressure as opposed to "feeling" pressure has been, and will likely always be a big deal with Baker
If you're reading the coverage right, then how do you adjust to a QB who isn't seeing the same things? That is a very more detailed journey that needs to be fleshed out.
outstanding worded pair of dilemmas here ^^ Tia.. The same type of stuff the all 22's showed last season too... Tennessee & Ravens 2nd game, saw tons of designed 1st false coverage's. That only gets Baker confused. (The Ghosts) Bake than will panic, not taking his ?'s off 1st read, pulling the ball down, to broken plays or fire drill plays.. ?.. Does our QB room watch our opponents coverage tape?
Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Aaron Donald’s dominant SNF performance was one of the best from Week 1Imho, Bake has got to get back to his Lincoln Riley tape days. Few on rhythm drops, but mostly back to on rhythm throws. Under center nor Not.. The ball has got to come out on time.. get the widest broom sticks money can buy at practice & get back to the basics of throwing thru windows, not breaking them..There's this thing called '"putting some air & touch under your football pass". Bake has totally lost it, if he ever had it? if it takes a benching? So.. be... it..! #6?
OH-- and than there is this...atta boy ?'s
Baker will be fine. A bad start yesterday had a compounding effect. He should find a way to get OBJ involved early on, and we’ll see a different OBJ.
Vernon had a terrible play early where he gave up weak side contain in the laziest manner. Shouldn’t happen to a veteran.
Larry O was impressive as hell. We need him to be that guy for us in the middle. Explosive. -
Baker said it was a "punch in the mouth" that they needed. I imagine the entire offense isn't settled in yet.
It's heartening to note: Stefanski said they were outplayed and outcoached. That says a lot of good things about this coaching staff,
instead of throwing his players under the bus but a previous head coach that isn't worth mentioning...
https://sports.yahoo.com/baker-mayfield-sometimes-nice-punch-133823544.html
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Baker said it was a "punch in the mouth" that they needed. I imagine the entire offense isn't settled in yet.
It's heartening to note: Stefanski said they were outplayed and outcoached. That says a lot of good things about this coaching staff,
instead of throwing his players under the bus but a previous head coach that isn't worth mentioning...
https://sports.yahoo.com/baker-mayfield-sometimes-nice-punch-133823544.html
Baker said it was a "punch in the mouth" that they needed. I imagine the entire offense isn't settled in yet.
It's heartening to note: Stefanski said they were outplayed and outcoached. That says a lot of good things about this coaching staff,
instead of throwing his players under the bus but a previous head coach that isn't worth mentioning...
https://sports.yahoo.com/baker-mayfield-sometimes-nice-punch-133823544.html
They needed a punch in the mouth last year... a year too late!
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I know this is hard, but this is a new coaching staff coming off a very trying offseason.
I know they looked horrible, but hopefully they rebound in the next few weeks. I'm not saying they will, but I'm going to try to give them a bit of time to really judge how things look.
OBJ, on the other hand? This is just Groundhog Day with him at this point.
Soooooooo, I went back and watched a couple things. I wanted to see if Baker missed OBJ as many times as I thought. Unfortunately, he did. There were two deep-ish throws down the middle that Baker threw behind OBJ, and one should have resulted in a pick but OBJ did enough to disrupt the play. These were the exact throws Lamar Jackson made with ease. There were multiple other times where Baker appeared to be looking right at an open guy but didn't pull the trigger. THAT'S what concerns me.
Baker's struggles had very little to do with knowledge of the offense. You don't have to be knowledgeable to make an accurate throw. To hit your release valve for 6 yards on 2nd and 10. To find your bazillion dollar TE for more than FIFTEEN FREAKING YARDS.
Baker didn't just look bad, he WAS bad, and I'm not sure he's redeemable. If you can't make intermediate throws down the seam or across the middle, you can't play QB. The really sad thing is that he used to be KNOWN for those passes. Whatever is wrong with Baker is between his ears, and I don't know if that's fixable. He was truly worse than people are saying, and I'm not sure what to do next.
Baker will likely be down in a good chunk of games this year. At this point, I literally have no idea who our linebackers are going to be because Phillips is gone for the year (I assume). The Ravens had people running WIDE open Sunday, and even when people were covered they STILL made every catch. Our offense is not designed to come from behind, so we're going to need our defense to simply find a way to keep us in it until our offense (ahem, our QUARTERBACK) finds his footing....or God help us...gets replaced.
Soooooooo, I went back and watched a couple things. I wanted to see if Baker missed OBJ as many times as I thought. Unfortunately, he did. There were two deep-ish throws down the middle that Baker threw behind OBJ, and one should have resulted in a pick but OBJ did enough to disrupt the play. These were the exact throws Lamar Jackson made with ease. There were multiple other times where Baker appeared to be looking right at an open guy but didn't pull the trigger. THAT'S what concerns me.
Baker's struggles had very little to do with knowledge of the offense. You don't have to be knowledgeable to make an accurate throw. To hit your release valve for 6 yards on 2nd and 10. To find your bazillion dollar TE for more than FIFTEEN FREAKING YARDS.
Baker didn't just look bad, he WAS bad, and I'm not sure he's redeemable. If you can't make intermediate throws down the seam or across the middle, you can't play QB. The really sad thing is that he used to be KNOWN for those passes. Whatever is wrong with Baker is between his ears, and I don't know if that's fixable. He was truly worse than people are saying, and I'm not sure what to do next.
Baker will likely be down in a good chunk of games this year. At this point, I literally have no idea who our linebackers are going to be because Phillips is gone for the year (I assume). The Ravens had people running WIDE open Sunday, and even when people were covered they STILL made every catch. Our offense is not designed to come from behind, so we're going to need our defense to simply find a way to keep us in it until our offense (ahem, our QUARTERBACK) finds his footing....or God help us...gets replaced.
Jiggs, you nailed it again. I rewatched some of it and feel the same way you do. Baker was bad, and it has nothing to do with the "new system." New systems don't make you throw inaccurately or not see/miss receivers.
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