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  • @tiamat63 said:

     If the Brownies Oline is able to go and in solid health, they can win up front and keep rotating Chubb + Kareem.     At this rate, you're going to have to force that 8th man into the box because Baker is playing like one of the worst QB's in the NFL.   Need to keep as much space outside for him to throw with.

    Don't go until you know.   Bengals won't threaten deep if they don't have time to get the ball off.   That means 5 and 7 step combos are off the plate - Divide, Mills, double moves, deep floods... off the table.   Make them pay for it and be aggressive underneath.

    Christ.. was this ever a good pre-game post ^^... Your box of nails is in the mail Tia...           Shout out to Chris Hubbard... Stick to the Callahan coaching path ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Christ.. was this ever a good pre-game post ^^... Your box of nails is in the mail Tia...           Shout out to Chris Hubbard... Stick to the Callahan coaching path ?

    Apappreciate the nod.  I take pride in giving analysis that i want to hold up over time.

    Always humbling to get compliments though.

  • @bob806 said:

    Yeah, I'm a "glass half full" guy but the D is likely to struggle for awhile. Injuries and another new scheme. They should make some adjustments before Sep 27th that should work.

    I'm just happy they got the W. Something to build upon, woof.

    #23, Sendejo - seems like he had his second poor game. I'm surprised the Bengals didn't throw at him often. If he did anything right, I missed it. The weakest link so far. the injuries hurt the secondary badly, and a few players have said they had come miscommunications....

    @calfoxwc said:

    #23, Sendejo - seems like he had his second poor game. I'm surprised the Bengals didn't throw at him often. If he did anything right, I missed it. The weakest link so far. the injuries hurt the secondary badly, and a few players have said they had come miscommunications....

    Yep. They brought in a couple veterans & drafted Delpit.

    Sendejo needs to step it up for sure. A veteran presence isn't any good if they aren't making plays.

  • @bob806 said:

    Yeah, I'm a "glass half full" guy but the D is likely to struggle for awhile. Injuries and another new scheme. They should make some adjustments before Sep 27th that should work.

    I'm just happy they got the W. Something to build upon, woof.

    #23, Sendejo - seems like he had his second poor game. I'm surprised the Bengals didn't throw at him often. If he did anything right, I missed it. The weakest link so far. the injuries hurt the secondary badly, and a few players have said they had come miscommunications....

    @calfoxwc said:

    #23, Sendejo - seems like he had his second poor game. I'm surprised the Bengals didn't throw at him often. If he did anything right, I missed it. 

    I get your frustrations ?..I seriously do..I find myself continually bitching at Sendejo/T.Thomas/M.Smith/Goodson & T.Mitch sometimes....But! Sendejo lead us in tackles last night.. Well..and,  I keep telling 'self.. I'd rather see Malcolm Smith than TikiTaki"... Joseph is really peeking a nerve also.. am headed over to our ST issues?, but heck, at least Phefer is trying EVERY-body in the pool! 

  • Don't let the PFF grade from week 1 on Sendejo fool you.  Those nerds have no idea how their grading should go sometimes. 

    For example the deep shot to Brown by Lamar, that isn't on Andrew.  You can't ask any safety to square up on a 4.3 receiver who was given a free release and expect good results.  You're putting that DB in a no-win situation.  The fact he made a TD saving tackle was impressive.

    I'll dive into his tape when i get the time.

  • This was pretty damn fun. I thought we'd win like 31-17 or something, but I didn't think we'd give up that many points. There's so many things to discuss about our victory and I don't have time right now, haha. 

    Mayfield was outstanding. His ball placement was scary good and it was the kind of accuracy he was drafted for. It really was excellent. 

    Burrow will be a problem for a LONG time and I don't like it. I hope he survives a terrible OL. 

    Running the ball is fun. That last drive was heavenly. 

    I hate our defense. Like, for real. 

    Why can't we tackle on kickoffs? 

    Thank you Myles Garrett for saving the game after our botched 4th down. 

    That bomb to OBJ was terrific! 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I hate our defense. Like, for real. 

    Our "Defense" or our defensive personnel?

  • @tiamat63 said:

     If the Brownies Oline is able to go and in solid health, they can win up front and keep rotating Chubb + Kareem.     At this rate, you're going to have to force that 8th man into the box because Baker is playing like one of the worst QB's in the NFL.   Need to keep as much space outside for him to throw with.

    Don't go until you know.   Bengals won't threaten deep if they don't have time to get the ball off.   That means 5 and 7 step combos are off the plate - Divide, Mills, double moves, deep floods... off the table.   Make them pay for it and be aggressive underneath.

    Christ.. was this ever a good pre-game post ^^... Your box of nails is in the mail Tia...           Shout out to Chris Hubbard... Stick to the Callahan coaching path ?

    @gumby73 said:

     Shout out to Chris Hubbard... Stick to the Callahan coaching path ?

    Huge unsung hero... I can't recall hearing his name once last nite... and for an OL that's the minimum standard.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Don't let the PFF grade from week 1 on Sendejo fool you.  Those nerds have no idea how their grading should go sometimes. 

    For example the deep shot to Brown by Lamar, that isn't on Andrew.  You can't ask any safety to square up on a 4.3 receiver who was given a free release and expect good results.  You're putting that DB in a no-win situation.  The fact he made a TD saving tackle was impressive.

    I'll dive into his tape when i get the time.

    True... but the deep sideline should never be the hole when playing 2-deep... I learned that from Madden... 😉

  • The Browns are forming an identity. While the talk is about touches to OBJ, Landry, etc.  We have the best 1-2 punch in the backfield and a line that is very capable of opening up holes.  We also have an intelligent coach that I hope can sense this now rather than week 8-9 when we are fumbling games.  
     

    We need to keep the defense off the field especially early on as much as possible.  My goal would be 40 runs 30 passes.  Last night was 34/23.  I’d like us to go 2/3 TE sets too, make teams prepare for something they don’t see often.  Slow the game down.  Beat up front 7s.  Keep Baker’s empty set and shots down field limited but tick up the play action deep or Hunt on the perimeter or TE down the seams. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I hate our defense. Like, for real. 

    Our "Defense" or our defensive personnel?

    @tour2ma said:

    Our "Defense" or our defensive personnel?

    That's a good question and I'm not sure I actually know the answer. Let's see how we look with Johnson, Greedy, and Mack back. 

  • Interesting article - Stock up, Stock down"

    I would have listed Harrison Bryant as a stock up - one play, he showed what he is capable of - just wait til he gets some more experience under his belt and gets a few more chances.

    STOCK UP - Hooper, Ward, Stefanski, Baker, Richardson.

    STOCK DOWN - those who covet drama from Baker and OBJ....special teams....and good ole #23, Sendejo.

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-stock-report-who-rose-up-and-who-fell-down-in-clevelands-week-2-win-over-the-bengals/

  • @calfoxwc said:

    #23, Sendejo - seems like he had his second poor game. I'm surprised the Bengals didn't throw at him often. If he did anything right, I missed it. 

    I get your frustrations ?..I seriously do..I find myself continually bitching at Sendejo/T.Thomas/M.Smith/Goodson & T.Mitch sometimes....But! Sendejo lead us in tackles last night.. Well..and,  I keep telling 'self.. I'd rather see Malcolm Smith than TikiTaki"... Joseph is really peeking a nerve also.. am headed over to our ST issues?, but heck, at least Phefer is trying EVERY-body in the pool! 

    @gumby73 said:

    I get your frustrations ?..I seriously do..I find myself continually bitching at Sendejo/T.Thomas/M.Smith/Goodson & T.Mitch sometimes....But! Sendejo lead us in tackles last night.. Well..and,  I keep telling 'self.. I'd rather see Malcolm Smith than TikiTaki"... Joseph is really peeking a nerve also.. am headed over to our ST issues?, but heck, at least Phefer is trying EVERY-body in the pool! 

    Sendejo led the team in tackles because the Bengals threw the ball 60 times down field. Who the hell else was going to do the tackling? The middle guard?

  • We ran behind Jed Wills ALOT and he looked good and I can’t remember him giving up a sack/pressure etc

    @sdbacker80 said:

    We ran behind Jed Wills ALOT and he looked good and I can’t remember him giving up a sack/pressure etc

    I'm going to rewatch the game and concentrate on his play every offensive down just to see what we have now.

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  • @sdbacker80 said:

    We ran behind Jed Wills ALOT and he looked good and I can’t remember him giving up a sack/pressure etc

    I'm going to rewatch the game and concentrate on his play every offensive down just to see what we have now.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm going to rewatch the game and concentrate on his play every offensive down just to see what we have now.

    Im thinking that the offence may improve as the season goes on and run game might get more in the groove.  Remember too they played woeful Cincinnati in the last game and gave up 30+ points and went 0-5 in forth down stops, a few more stops they could have had had the run game on the field more and probably scored more points.

    Same somewhat with the defense as it goes on.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'm going to rewatch the game and concentrate on his play every offensive down just to see what we have now.

    Im thinking that the offence may improve as the season goes on and run game might get more in the groove.  Remember too they played woeful Cincinnati in the last game and gave up 30+ points and went 0-5 in forth down stops, a few more stops they could have had had the run game on the field more and probably scored more points.

    Same somewhat with the defense as it goes on.

    @mjp28 said:

    Im thinking that the offence may improve as the season goes on

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

  • @mjp28 said:

    Im thinking that the offence may improve as the season goes on

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

    You mean Your Honor Gipper ?   😉

  • @mjp28 said:

    Im thinking that the offence may improve as the season goes on

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

    LOL LOL

  • @mjp28 said:

    Im thinking that the offence may improve as the season goes on

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    I thought offence was Gipper's specialty under the law.??

    If by that you mean that I put people in jail for or hand out fines for committing offences then yes it is. 

  • So we’re all clear here, the dick sucking of Burrow I think is a little much. 
     

    be threw 61 times, and only had 80 more yards than Baker, who threw 23 times...

    bengals are obviously scheming to protect Burrow. 

  • So we’re all clear here, the dick sucking of Burrow I think is a little much. 
     

    be threw 61 times, and only had 80 more yards than Baker, who threw 23 times...

    bengals are obviously scheming to protect Burrow. 

    @typicalbrowns50 said:

    So we’re all clear here, the dick sucking of Burrow I think is a little much. 
     

    be threw 61 times, and only had 80 more yards than Baker, who threw 23 times...

    bengals are obviously scheming to protect Burrow. 

    Brilliant analysis.   So an offense that has issues struggling to pass block is highlighting their rookie QB's strength, his short and intermediate accuracy, by trying to get the ball out quick.  Plus side, saving the wear and tear on his body so he doesn't end up like Couch.

    That's called good coaching.  

  • @typicalbrowns50 said:

    So we’re all clear here, the dick sucking of Burrow I think is a little much. 
     

    be threw 61 times, and only had 80 more yards than Baker, who threw 23 times...

    bengals are obviously scheming to protect Burrow. 

    Brilliant analysis.   So an offense that has issues struggling to pass block is highlighting their rookie QB's strength, his short and intermediate accuracy, by trying to get the ball out quick.  Plus side, saving the wear and tear on his body so he doesn't end up like Couch.

    That's called good coaching.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Brilliant analysis.   So an offense that has issues struggling to pass block is highlighting their rookie QB's strength, his short and intermediate accuracy, by trying to get the ball out quick.  Plus side, saving the wear and tear on his body so he doesn't end up like Couch.

    That's called good coaching.  

    That is the Cincinnati franchise out there they better do whatever it takes to protect him.

    Same with Mayfield and now they have the 1-2 punch at running back to do just that.  Look for Baker to have the pass option less passes and more ypc to help him out.

    GO BROWNS, high power offence and pray for the defence.......baby !