How did the Defense get so bad?
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I lost count of how many 4th down stops we didn’t make last night. I don’t even need fingers to count how many 4th down stops we made.
I lost count of how many 4th down stops we didn’t make last night. I don’t even need fingers to count how many 4th down stops we made.
I remember when it was 5/5 keeping Cinci in the game. Even a few stops and they could have put the Hunt/Chubb running game back on the field to run the clock out and maybe scored even more.
Every sports announcer I've seen so far that the BROWNS have the best 1-2 punch for a running game in the NFL.
The both might keep either from winning the running back in yardage. -But- winning games, controlling the clock, keeping the defense off the field are all more important !
GO BROWNS... just win games, baby !
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Does anyone remember Joe Schobert?... The D captain?... Losing him hurt a lot like I knew it would.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Does anyone remember Joe Schobert?... The D captain?... Losing him hurt a lot like I knew it would.
Does anyone remember Joe Schobert?... The D captain?... Losing him hurt a lot like I knew it would.
Yeah you wonder why that decision was made. I was thinking maybe he had some underlying injury that the FO would know about. Maybe budgets which run a lot of things in today's world.
D captain to off the team ?
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...plus how many DCs in how many years?
It ain't rocket science... except to Gipper.
What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers.
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...plus how many DCs in how many years?
It ain't rocket science... except to Gipper.
What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers.
What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers.
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Gipper is so cute when he goes potty mouth...
... OBJ would like it tho... allegedly...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
...plus how many DCs in how many years?
It ain't rocket science... except to Gipper.
What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers.
What a pussy answer. you want it to be that simple but it fucking just isn’t. Part of my belief is that this general manager ,who you like to suck the dick of , has dropped the ball in talent acquisition on that side of things so Lick his scrotum if you must while the rest of us try to come up with answers.
Gipper is so cute when he goes potty mouth...
... OBJ would like it tho... allegedly...
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Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball.
Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball.
lol.... not all agreed with Ghoulie IIRC...
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Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball.
Just so we're clear for the history of this forum, I'm reading this thread as an acknowledgement that "offensive playmakers" don't solve every issue on both sides of the ball.
NSS
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Just for reference, here's how the Browns defenses fared in the four seasons with Joe Schobert:
2016: Allowed 28.3 points per game (16th out of 16 AFC teams)
2017: Allowed 25.6 points per game (15th/16)
2018: Allowed 24.5 points per game (11th/16)
2019: Allowed 24.6 points per game (12th/16)
As I said before, when was this defense good?
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I don't know how this is shocking. Other than All-World Ward, nobody in the back 7 can cover at all.
Maybe Kevin Johnson or Greedy will help, but unless and until they get full speed, this season is going to be a lot of 35-30, 42-38, and Parkey shanking game winners. Phillips and Wilson aren't improving the pass D any.. watching Burrow pick this team apart means it's going to be a long season. They need to upgrade the pass D both at safety and LB after this season.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
I lost count of how many 4th down stops we didn’t make last night. I don’t even need fingers to count how many 4th down stops we made.
bagels were 8 of 18 on 3rd..and 5 out of 5 on 4ths...glad to help...our back 7 is astoundingly bad..
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I don't know how this is shocking. Other than All-World Ward, nobody in the back 7 can cover at all.
Maybe Kevin Johnson or Greedy will help, but unless and until they get full speed, this season is going to be a lot of 35-30, 42-38, and Parkey shanking game winners. Phillips and Wilson aren't improving the pass D any.. watching Burrow pick this team apart means it's going to be a long season. They need to upgrade the pass D both at safety and LB after this season.
I don't know how this is shocking. Other than All-World Ward, nobody in the back 7 can cover at all.
Maybe Kevin Johnson or Greedy will help, but unless and until they get full speed, this season is going to be a lot of 35-30, 42-38, and Parkey shanking game winners. Phillips and Wilson aren't improving the pass D any.. watching Burrow pick this team apart means it's going to be a long season. They need to upgrade the pass D both at safety and LB after this season.
And I don't think this offense (read: Baker Mayfield) is dynamic enough to consistently put up 25-30 points a game to overcome this defense.
And Greedy needs to get on the field - before he's officially considered an injury-prone player who cannot be depended upon. I believe he's missed over a 1/3 of the NFL games he's been eligible to play in.
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Just for reference, here's how the Browns defenses fared in the four seasons with Joe Schobert:
2016: Allowed 28.3 points per game (16th out of 16 AFC teams)
2017: Allowed 25.6 points per game (15th/16)
2018: Allowed 24.5 points per game (11th/16)
2019: Allowed 24.6 points per game (12th/16)
As I said before, when was this defense good?
Just for reference, here's how the Browns defenses fared in the four seasons with Joe Schobert:
2016: Allowed 28.3 points per game (16th out of 16 AFC teams)
2017: Allowed 25.6 points per game (15th/16)
2018: Allowed 24.5 points per game (11th/16)
2019: Allowed 24.6 points per game (12th/16)
As I said before, when was this defense good?
I never thought it was good, but during the worst years it was definitely better than the awful O we had, so I guess the offense doing better than the defense makes some people worry aabout the defense.
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I don't know how this is shocking. Other than All-World Ward, nobody in the back 7 can cover at all.
Maybe Kevin Johnson or Greedy will help, but unless and until they get full speed, this season is going to be a lot of 35-30, 42-38, and Parkey shanking game winners. Phillips and Wilson aren't improving the pass D any.. watching Burrow pick this team apart means it's going to be a long season. They need to upgrade the pass D both at safety and LB after this season.
And I don't think this offense (read: Baker Mayfield) is dynamic enough to consistently put up 25-30 points a game to overcome this defense.
And Greedy needs to get on the field - before he's officially considered an injury-prone player who cannot be depended upon. I believe he's missed over a 1/3 of the NFL games he's been eligible to play in.
And I don't think this offense (read: Baker Mayfield) is dynamic enough to consistently put up 25-30 points a game to overcome this defense.
And Greedy needs to get on the field - before he's officially considered an injury-prone player who cannot be depended upon. I believe he's missed over a 1/3 of the NFL games he's been eligible to play in.
We need ball control. I think we can do this if we continue to run block well. Limit possessions by the other team. Get a few splash plays from Garrett and Co.
I’m with you on Greedy.
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I wonder how many pass rush wins he had against quite a few double teams?
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