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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @browns149 said:

    Can’t believe he outlasted Gase in NYJ

    But then I heard the Jets want to lose every game, so keeping Gase is probably a good thing for them

    Do you think they are giving up on Darnold?  and Tanking for Trevor? 

    WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on
    #17

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you think they are giving up on Darnold?  and Tanking for Trevor? 

    After seeing what the Cardinals did I'm thinking yes, precedent has been set. Sucks because I thought Darnold was best QB in that class.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    I figured he was a goner as soon as he traded Hopkins away.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #18

    @texasag1969 said:

    I figured he was a goner as soon as he traded Hopkins away.

    The guy is dumber than a doorknob. 

  • WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you think they are giving up on Darnold?  and Tanking for Trevor? 

    After seeing what the Cardinals did I'm thinking yes, precedent has been set. Sucks because I thought Darnold was best QB in that class.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #19

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    After seeing what the Cardinals did I'm thinking yes, precedent has been set. Sucks because I thought Darnold was best QB in that class.

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

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  • I Icecube

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    After seeing what the Cardinals did I'm thinking yes, precedent has been set. Sucks because I thought Darnold was best QB in that class.

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on
    #20

    @icecube said:

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    Yeah I seen him play but Gase is as bad as Freddie and they're devoid of talent, so I don't think he got a fair shake.

    Canton DawgC 1 Reply
  • N Neo

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Hopkins literally my favorite WR. He's just incredible. Although I'm partial to OBJ lately! ?

    I've said it before, I've never seen Hopkins drop a pass. Just amazing.

    I Icecube wrote on
    #21

    @neo said:

    I've said it before, I've never seen Hopkins drop a pass. Just amazing.

    And given away for a RB who's last decent season was in 2016.....

    I think Bill tries so hard to imitate Hoodie that he loses his way. You can't just mimic another person 100% and be successful. When Bill found out how much Hops wanted in his next contract, he flipped out and over-reacted. 

  • WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies

    @icecube said:

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    Yeah I seen him play but Gase is as bad as Freddie and they're devoid of talent, so I don't think he got a fair shake.

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on
    #22

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    Yeah I seen him play but Gase is as bad as Freddie and they're devoid of talent, so I don't think he got a fair shake.

    Just think...Gase thought he was too good for Cleveland and wouldn’t give an interview.

    Karma is a bitch.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @tour2ma said:

    Final thought...

    Another case of a decent HC who had his team in the playoffs going to "the boss" and saying, "Boss, if I could just have control of personnel..."

    How many times have we seen that be the end of a HC?

    Butch Davis and Eric Mangini on lines 1 and 2... 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #23

    @dutch-oven said:

    Butch Davis and Eric Mangini on lines 1 and 2... 

    When was Mangini a GM? He wasn't when he was our HC.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • N Neo

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Hopkins literally my favorite WR. He's just incredible. Although I'm partial to OBJ lately! ?

    I've said it before, I've never seen Hopkins drop a pass. Just amazing.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #24

    @neo said:

    I've said it before, I've never seen Hopkins drop a pass. Just amazing.

    I have...

    ... I thought it was the first sign of the End of Days...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #25

    Thread appropriate tidbit from an article I'm reading...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Thread appropriate tidbit from an article I'm reading...

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #26

    @tour2ma said:

    Thread appropriate tidbit from an article I'm reading...

    Can anyone say any of that breaks their heart?

  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #27

    I  wasn't or .. Am not a fan of Bill O'Brien... Don't let the door hit your ass Bill.. We know how this show goes round these here parts... Take yo self elsewhere and keep it as far away from Cleveland as you possibly can... Good luck Romeo...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @dutch-oven said:

    Butch Davis and Eric Mangini on lines 1 and 2... 

    When was Mangini a GM? He wasn't when he was our HC.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #28

    @tour2ma said:

    When was Mangini a GM? He wasn't when he was our HC.

    He pretty much was running the whole show in '09, his first season with the Browns. 

    George Kokinis was an empty suit that was hired AFTER Mangini, and he was fired halfway through the 2009 season. Trust me, Mangini was running the Browns lock, stock and barrel... I and many others on the old board I was on argued for years with the brilliant mind that is Pete Smith (yes, THAT Pete Smith) about how Mangini completely butchered that draft. ? 

  • I Icecube

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    After seeing what the Cardinals did I'm thinking yes, precedent has been set. Sucks because I thought Darnold was best QB in that class.

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on
    #29

    @icecube said:

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    You won't get any arguments out me about his sub-par play but look at the number Freddie did to Baker, it may take another year for him to recover. If I remember right Matt choose to bang bitches at USC while in the NFL, and party during the season like a crazy frat-boy.

  • I Icecube

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    After seeing what the Cardinals did I'm thinking yes, precedent has been set. Sucks because I thought Darnold was best QB in that class.

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #30

    @icecube said:

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    The question is if Sam is terrible, or just playing on a terrible team?  It's been the ruination of many highly drafted first round qbs.  David Carr comes to mind immediately.... Our own Tim Couch may be in the running... 

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @icecube said:

    Have you watched Sam play? He mostly sucks. I was never sold on him. He played on USC when they had better athletes than their opponents. He's another Matt Leinart. 

    The question is if Sam is terrible, or just playing on a terrible team?  It's been the ruination of many highly drafted first round qbs.  David Carr comes to mind immediately.... Our own Tim Couch may be in the running... 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #31

    @hoorta said:

    The question is if Sam is terrible, or just playing on a terrible team?  It's been the ruination of many highly drafted first round qbs.  David Carr comes to mind immediately.... Our own Tim Couch may be in the running... 

    We had Baker all set up for failure, but somebody went and prioritized the OL and kept 4 superior RBs + a FB + blocking TEs. Go figure.?

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on
    #32

    This guy went to the playoffs 4 of 6 years. Yeesh. I guess he completely screwed himself...but still...

    The GipperT I 2 Replies
  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    This guy went to the playoffs 4 of 6 years. Yeesh. I guess he completely screwed himself...but still...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #33

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This guy went to the playoffs 4 of 6 years. Yeesh. I guess he completely screwed himself...but still...

    That is what happens often when the HC wants to also be the GM.   Occasionally it works out.  More often not, it seems, including our foray into Butch Davis trying to do that sort of thing. 

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  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #34

    Texans don't have a LB or DB worth trading for - unless OBrien will give Berry their CB Roby for a 2021 4th as a parting gift - so I'm actually happy with Texans treading water.  Means there's one less AFC playoff contender..

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
    Tour2maT I hoortaH 3 Replies
  • U Unsympathetic

    Texans don't have a LB or DB worth trading for - unless OBrien will give Berry their CB Roby for a 2021 4th as a parting gift - so I'm actually happy with Texans treading water.  Means there's one less AFC playoff contender..

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #35

    @unsympathetic said:

    Texans don't have a LB or DB worth trading for -

    Obviously depends upon the price, but...

    • OLB Zach Cunningham is an impact player and could easily translate to our 4-3... inside or outside. His ILB, a trimmed-down McKinney, has turned into a nice player that could be a 2-down MLB in our 4-3. Either would improve our current LB room.
    • CB-wise they have Hargreaves and, as you mention, Roby. Meh...
    • Safety? I liked Justin Reid in that 2018 Safety class (it wasn't the 2017 Class by a mile, but it did not suck)... still do.
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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    This guy went to the playoffs 4 of 6 years. Yeesh. I guess he completely screwed himself...but still...

    I Icecube wrote on
    #36

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This guy went to the playoffs 4 of 6 years. Yeesh. I guess he completely screwed himself...but still...

    I think the fans/owners were sick of 0-3 starts, scrambling to make the playoffs and then not getting any further than the previous year. Plus, his garbage GM moves were nothing short of embarrassing. 

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