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  • @dutch-oven said:

    That dude couldn't stop pimping Baker all pre-draft ?

    But hell, the guy I liked early on - Rosen - barely is employed in the NFL. By the time the draft happened I really didn't like any of them. ?

    Yeah, I liked Rosen too. Tour was responsible for that pick. He dodged a bullet.

    From that draft though, the one that I like the most is the guy your BFF cal was pumping for: Josh Allen. He has gained accuracy and has leadership. He isn't a great QB but man he does better than Mayfield in many aspects...

    @nero said:

    Yeah, I liked Rosen too. Tour was responsible for that pick. He dodged a bullet.

    From that draft though, the one that I like the most is the guy your BFF cal was pumping for: Josh Allen. He has gained accuracy and has leadership. He isn't a great QB but man he does better than Mayfield in many aspects...

    I watched all of Rosen's UCLA games and was pretty vocal that the dude may have looked the part, but he didn't have that thing beating in his chest to actually make him the part. 

    There is still no measure for that... no matter how tight you make the kool tank tops and lycra shorts at the combine. 

  • @nero said:

    Yeah, I liked Rosen too. Tour was responsible for that pick. He dodged a bullet.

    From that draft though, the one that I like the most is the guy your BFF cal was pumping for: Josh Allen. He has gained accuracy and has leadership. He isn't a great QB but man he does better than Mayfield in many aspects...

    I watched all of Rosen's UCLA games and was pretty vocal that the dude may have looked the part, but he didn't have that thing beating in his chest to actually make him the part. 

    There is still no measure for that... no matter how tight you make the kool tank tops and lycra shorts at the combine. 

    @d-bone said:

    I watched all of Rosen's UCLA games and was pretty vocal that the dude may have looked the part, but he didn't have that thing beating in his chest to actually make him the part. 

    There is still no measure for that... no matter how tight you make the kool tank tops and lycra shorts at the combine. 

    No need to take out the big guns and talk about the lycra shots, sir. That's way out of the line. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    That dude couldn't stop pimping Baker all pre-draft ?

    But hell, the guy I liked early on - Rosen - barely is employed in the NFL. By the time the draft happened I really didn't like any of them. ?

    Yeah, I liked Rosen too. Tour was responsible for that pick. He dodged a bullet.

    From that draft though, the one that I like the most is the guy your BFF cal was pumping for: Josh Allen. He has gained accuracy and has leadership. He isn't a great QB but man he does better than Mayfield in many aspects...

    @nero said:

    Yeah, I liked Rosen too. Tour was responsible for that pick. He dodged a bullet.

    From that draft though, the one that I like the most is the guy your BFF cal was pumping for: Josh Allen. He has gained accuracy and has leadership. He isn't a great QB but man he does better than Mayfield in many aspects...

    By the time the draft came I soured on everyone ? Too many red flags with Rosen, thought Darnold came out too early, wasn't impressed with Mayfield physically,  and Allen to me was too raw and played inferior competition...

    Mayfield just isn't dynamic at all. The only thing he does really well is passing off play-action, but that is so predicated on running the ball well and being up. He's just not the guy you get on his back and he leads you to victories. He's our Andy Dalton.

  • @nero said:

    Yeah, I liked Rosen too. Tour was responsible for that pick. He dodged a bullet.

    From that draft though, the one that I like the most is the guy your BFF cal was pumping for: Josh Allen. He has gained accuracy and has leadership. He isn't a great QB but man he does better than Mayfield in many aspects...

    By the time the draft came I soured on everyone ? Too many red flags with Rosen, thought Darnold came out too early, wasn't impressed with Mayfield physically,  and Allen to me was too raw and played inferior competition...

    Mayfield just isn't dynamic at all. The only thing he does really well is passing off play-action, but that is so predicated on running the ball well and being up. He's just not the guy you get on his back and he leads you to victories. He's our Andy Dalton.

    @dutch-oven said:

    By the time the draft came I soured on everyone ? Too many red flags with Rosen, thought Darnold came out too early, wasn't impressed with Mayfield physically,  and Allen to me was too raw and played inferior competition...

    Mayfield just isn't dynamic at all. The only thing he does really well is passing off play-action, but that is so predicated on running the ball well and being up. He's just not the guy you get on his back and he leads you to victories. He's our Andy Dalton.

    He is nowhere near as good as Andy Dalton 

  • I know..... He'll want too much money. Probably won't even hit the market, etc. There are 1,000 reasons why it won't happen. Still, I'll be dreaming about Dak Prescott hitting the market next year.

  • So we got Faker Nayfield instead of josh Allen, Great

    @typicalbrowns50 said:

    So we got Faker Nayfield instead of josh Allen, Great

    was josh the one u wanted on draft day ? I wanted darnold and i still think he is better than baker

  • @typicalbrowns50 said:

    So we got Faker Nayfield instead of josh Allen, Great

    was josh the one u wanted on draft day ? I wanted darnold and i still think he is better than baker

    @atom said:

    was josh the one u wanted on draft day ? I wanted darnold and i still think he is better than baker

    I was saying we were getting JFF II without the drugs/alcohol. Baker can't read defenses.

  • Without the run we looked like little bitches out there. We missed Chubb. Our O line got dominated also. We did not compensate for the blitz 

  • I really like the kid, but if this is the peak of his abilities as a QB, then he's gotta go. Our team is way too talented to be hobbled by mediocre QB play.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    I really like the kid, but if this is the peak of his abilities as a QB, then he's gotta go. Our team is way too talented to be hobbled by mediocre QB play.

    People trashing Manziel because he was a midget. So they go out and draft someone who's like an inch taller. There is a reason why Baker has more success outside the pocket. He is a one read QB that can't see over the line. 

  • Charlie Frye v2.0

    @d-bone said:

    Charlie Frye v2.0

    Wow, I totally forgot about that dude. Tells you something about him.

  • N Neo

    @d-bone said:

    Charlie Frye v2.0

    Wow, I totally forgot about that dude. Tells you something about him.

    @neo said:

    Wow, I totally forgot about that dude. Tells you something about him.

    Charlie Frye is 6’4”. Give Baker that height and we may have something 

  • Jesus...  been a while since I’ve seen this much bitching from grown ass men... They lost a fucking game and are 4-2 with Cincy coming up next week. I feel like some of you haven’t been around/forgot what this shitshow usually looks like this time of year.

    The quicker you accept the fact that Baker is the QB in Cleveland for the foreseeable future the better off your going to be.  This is the NFL. You either draft a QB or you don’t get one until they are old and flamed out. And no... Case Keenum isn’t better. The guy’s been on 7 nfl teams since 2012.  Oh ya... and he is 6’1”
     

    You know who was tall? Brandon Weeden. Ya let’s draft him again in the mid first round... or Brady Quinn! Great idea.

  • N Neo

    @jbluhm86 said:

    I really like the kid, but if this is the peak of his abilities as a QB, then he's gotta go. Our team is way too talented to be hobbled by mediocre QB play.

    People trashing Manziel because he was a midget. So they go out and draft someone who's like an inch taller. There is a reason why Baker has more success outside the pocket. He is a one read QB that can't see over the line. 

    @neo said:

    People trashing Manziel because he was a midget. So they go out and draft someone who's like an inch taller. There is a reason why Baker has more success outside the pocket. He is a one read QB that can't see over the line. 

    @hx214 said:

    Jesus...  been a while since I’ve seen this much bitching from grown ass men... They lost a fucking game and are 4-2 with Cincy coming up next week. I feel like some of you haven’t been around/forgot what this shitshow usually looks like this time of year.

    The quicker you accept the fact that Baker is the QB in Cleveland for the foreseeable future the better off your going to be.  This is the NFL. You either draft a QB or you don’t get one until they are old and flamed out. And no... Case Keenum isn’t better. The guy’s been on 7 nfl teams since 2012.  Oh ya... and he is 6’1”
     

    You know who was tall? Brandon Weeden. Ya let’s draft him again in the mid first round... or Brady Quinn! Great idea.

    Height isn't the issue. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are both under 6 feet tall and both are Superbowl champions and are leaders of perennial playoff teams, so short QBs can succeed in this league. So far, Baker has shown that when you take the run game away from him, he cannot seem to step up and lead this team. It really sucks to say that because he is a good person, but it's looking like what we're seeing now is the upper limit of his abilities. What excuses does he have left? We're fucking stacked in the WR, RB and TE positions, the O-Line's play is better than it's ever been, and we finally have a decent HC. He has no one else left to blame for his shit play than himself.

  • @neo said:

    Wow, I totally forgot about that dude. Tells you something about him.

    Charlie Frye is 6’4”. Give Baker that height and we may have something 

    @browns149 said:

    Charlie Frye is 6’4”. Give Baker that height and we may have something 

    @hx214 said:

    You know who was tall? Brandon Weeden

    Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are shorter but it doesn't seem to bother them because they know how to maneuver the pocket and find the throwing lanes. Baker needs to be out of the pocket and feels ghosts in the pocket. Since Baker doesn't have the great pocket awareness the others have, being on the short side hurts him.

    Brandon Weeden was old enough to retire when we drafted him. Still don't understand that one.

  • @neo said:

    People trashing Manziel because he was a midget. So they go out and draft someone who's like an inch taller. There is a reason why Baker has more success outside the pocket. He is a one read QB that can't see over the line. 

    @hx214 said:

    Jesus...  been a while since I’ve seen this much bitching from grown ass men... They lost a fucking game and are 4-2 with Cincy coming up next week. I feel like some of you haven’t been around/forgot what this shitshow usually looks like this time of year.

    The quicker you accept the fact that Baker is the QB in Cleveland for the foreseeable future the better off your going to be.  This is the NFL. You either draft a QB or you don’t get one until they are old and flamed out. And no... Case Keenum isn’t better. The guy’s been on 7 nfl teams since 2012.  Oh ya... and he is 6’1”
     

    You know who was tall? Brandon Weeden. Ya let’s draft him again in the mid first round... or Brady Quinn! Great idea.

    Height isn't the issue. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are both under 6 feet tall and both are Superbowl champions and are leaders of perennial playoff teams, so short QBs can succeed in this league. So far, Baker has shown that when you take the run game away from him, he cannot seem to step up and lead this team. It really sucks to say that because he is a good person, but it's looking like what we're seeing now is the upper limit of his abilities. What excuses does he have left? We're fucking stacked in the WR, RB and TE positions, the O-Line's play is better than it's ever been, and we finally have a decent HC. He has no one else left to blame for his shit play than himself.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Height isn't the issue. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are both under 6 feet tall and both are Superbowl champions and are leaders of perennial playoff teams, so short QBs can succeed in this league. So far, Baker has shown that when you take the run game away from him, he cannot seem to step up and lead this team. It really sucks to say that because he is a good person, but it's looking like what we're seeing now is the upper limit of his abilities. What excuses does he have left? We're fucking stacked in the WR, RB and TE positions, the O-Line's play is better than it's ever been, and we finally have a decent HC. He has no one else left to blame for his shit play than himself.

    I'm gonna agree here... If we get stable qb play today and a stout defense.. we win today.. But the coaching today was exceptionally shitty... So lets not excuse them either... It was a team loss today.. Yeah... Baker sucked... But it was more than him...

  • Go back and read my pre draft assessment on Baker throwing outside of OU's play-action designs.

    That's most of your problem.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Go back and read my pre draft assessment on Baker throwing outside of OU's play-action designs.

    That's most of your problem.

    What was your pre draft assessment on the two MVP's drafted recently Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson?  

    I know this forum didn't like the idea of taking Kyler Murray at #17 if he was available, which he wasn't, because there is nobody worth their football salt, possessing any decent insight into the game that would let him slide that far down the board.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Height isn't the issue. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are both under 6 feet tall and both are Superbowl champions and are leaders of perennial playoff teams, so short QBs can succeed in this league. So far, Baker has shown that when you take the run game away from him, he cannot seem to step up and lead this team. It really sucks to say that because he is a good person, but it's looking like what we're seeing now is the upper limit of his abilities. What excuses does he have left? We're fucking stacked in the WR, RB and TE positions, the O-Line's play is better than it's ever been, and we finally have a decent HC. He has no one else left to blame for his shit play than himself.

    I'm gonna agree here... If we get stable qb play today and a stout defense.. we win today.. But the coaching today was exceptionally shitty... So lets not excuse them either... It was a team loss today.. Yeah... Baker sucked... But it was more than him...

    @nickers said:

    I'm gonna agree here... If we get stable qb play today and a stout defense.. we win today.. But the coaching today was exceptionally shitty... So lets not excuse them either... It was a team loss today.. Yeah... Baker sucked... But it was more than him...

    It really felt like the Steelers were a step ahead all day. Defensively we had a game plan for what we thought we were going to see, like a bunch of short passes, and seemed prepared early on with some of those getting deflected and almost intercepted, but their offense pulled out more bags of tricks that our defense wasn't ready for. And on offense, the Line looked like they had a rough day, particularly the Tackles. I really think they got exposed today by speed. 

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Height isn't the issue. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are both under 6 feet tall and both are Superbowl champions and are leaders of perennial playoff teams, so short QBs can succeed in this league. So far, Baker has shown that when you take the run game away from him, he cannot seem to step up and lead this team. It really sucks to say that because he is a good person, but it's looking like what we're seeing now is the upper limit of his abilities. What excuses does he have left? We're fucking stacked in the WR, RB and TE positions, the O-Line's play is better than it's ever been, and we finally have a decent HC. He has no one else left to blame for his shit play than himself.

    I'm gonna agree here... If we get stable qb play today and a stout defense.. we win today.. But the coaching today was exceptionally shitty... So lets not excuse them either... It was a team loss today.. Yeah... Baker sucked... But it was more than him...

    @nickers said:

    I'm gonna agree here... If we get stable qb play today and a stout defense.. we win today.. But the coaching today was exceptionally shitty... So lets not excuse them either... It was a team loss today.. Yeah... Baker sucked... But it was more than him...

    I totally agree we were out coached. That was obvious. 
     

  • Jesus...  been a while since I’ve seen this much bitching from grown ass men... They lost a fucking game and are 4-2 with Cincy coming up next week. I feel like some of you haven’t been around/forgot what this shitshow usually looks like this time of year.

    The quicker you accept the fact that Baker is the QB in Cleveland for the foreseeable future the better off your going to be.  This is the NFL. You either draft a QB or you don’t get one until they are old and flamed out. And no... Case Keenum isn’t better. The guy’s been on 7 nfl teams since 2012.  Oh ya... and he is 6’1”
     

    You know who was tall? Brandon Weeden. Ya let’s draft him again in the mid first round... or Brady Quinn! Great idea.

    @hx214 said:

    Jesus...  been a while since I’ve seen this much bitching from grown ass men... They lost a fucking game and are 4-2 with Cincy coming up next week. I feel like some of you haven’t been around/forgot what this shitshow usually looks like this time of year.

    The quicker you accept the fact that Baker is the QB in Cleveland for the foreseeable future the better off your going to be.  This is the NFL. You either draft a QB or you don’t get one until they are old and flamed out. And no... Case Keenum isn’t better. The guy’s been on 7 nfl teams since 2012.  Oh ya... and he is 6’1”
     

    You know who was tall? Brandon Weeden. Ya let’s draft him again in the mid first round... or Brady Quinn! Great idea.

    If Baker continues this play he won’t be here in the foreseeable future

    The people in charge have no loyalty to him at all