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  • Good thing about Bell is that you can tell him: 'OK, we pay you 500,000 this year, you work behind the best run Oline and we'll see next offseason.'

    That way the Jets still have to eat up most of his salary (and he won't mind it, probably he likes it), he has a good opportunity to put up big numbers thanks to the OLine to get a contending team interested, and he can mess with the Steelers being in the same division. It also helps that the Browns currently look good. 

    Only setback for him is that we already have Chubb and Hunt and the former doesn't have a season ending injury, so if all three are healthy it's going to be hard to keep all of them fed (though I would love keeping Baker throwing under 10 yard passes al the time). It's just like we won't sign any good FA WR because no one is going to come until we get rid of either Landry or OBJ simply because you can't keep everyone happy.   

    @nero said:

    Good thing about Bell is that you can tell him: 'OK, we pay you 500,000 this year, you work behind the best run Oline and we'll see next offseason.'
     

    Similar to the Hunt situation here, signed him for two right before Chubb went down.

    But he is a Cleveland kids living out his dream.......for 2/$15M.    😉

  • Per what an announcer said on ESPN,   the Browns supposedly have the 2d easiest remaining schedule.  I assume that is on the basis of their future opponents current records.  Here is that schedule:

    6 Sun October 18 1:00PM ET preview       @ Pittsburgh Steelers                              
    7 Sun October 25 1:00PM ET preview       @ Cincinnati Bengals                              
    8 Sun November 1 1:00PM ET preview         Las Vegas Raiders                              
    9                 Bye Week                              
    10 Sun November 15 1:00PM ET preview         Houston Texans                              
    11 Sun November 22 1:00PM ET preview         Philadelphia Eagles                              
    12 Sun November 29 1:00PM ET preview       @ Jacksonville Jaguars                              
    13 Sun December 6 1:00PM ET preview       @ Tennessee Titans                              
    14 Mon December 14 8:00PM ET preview         Baltimore Ravens                              
    15 Sun December 20 1:00PM ET preview       @ New York Giants                              
    16 Sun December 27 12:00PM ET preview       @ New York Jets                              
    17 Sun January 3 1:00PM ET preview         Pittsburgh Steelers

    It looks to me that we have a combination of game against, yes, the worst teams going,  but also games against the Best teams going.

    Winless Giants and Jets.  1 win Jags, Eagles Texans, Bengals.

    Who here does not expect the Browns to win each and every one of those games?  Should we not expect  6 more victories in those games (which would give us 10 wins!!)

    But....they also play undefeated Steelers (twice)  and Titans.  One loss Ravens.  And the two loss Raiders who just took down the defending Champ Chiefs. 

    Fact is, we may not win all those games vs. the "bad teams"  nor lose all those games against the "good teams". 

    So, what are your expectations at this point? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Per what an announcer said on ESPN,   the Browns supposedly have the 2d easiest remaining schedule.  I assume that is on the basis of their future opponents current records.  Here is that schedule:

    6 Sun October 18 1:00PM ET preview       @ Pittsburgh Steelers                              
    7 Sun October 25 1:00PM ET preview       @ Cincinnati Bengals                              
    8 Sun November 1 1:00PM ET preview         Las Vegas Raiders                              
    9                 Bye Week                              
    10 Sun November 15 1:00PM ET preview         Houston Texans                              
    11 Sun November 22 1:00PM ET preview         Philadelphia Eagles                              
    12 Sun November 29 1:00PM ET preview       @ Jacksonville Jaguars                              
    13 Sun December 6 1:00PM ET preview       @ Tennessee Titans                              
    14 Mon December 14 8:00PM ET preview         Baltimore Ravens                              
    15 Sun December 20 1:00PM ET preview       @ New York Giants                              
    16 Sun December 27 12:00PM ET preview       @ New York Jets                              
    17 Sun January 3 1:00PM ET preview         Pittsburgh Steelers

    It looks to me that we have a combination of game against, yes, the worst teams going,  but also games against the Best teams going.

    Winless Giants and Jets.  1 win Jags, Eagles Texans, Bengals.

    Who here does not expect the Browns to win each and every one of those games?  Should we not expect  6 more victories in those games (which would give us 10 wins!!)

    I think this year is different but how many times over the years have we seen post like this only to have the Browns fall apart...lets take it one game at a time

  • @the-gipper said:

    Per what an announcer said on ESPN,   the Browns supposedly have the 2d easiest remaining schedule.  I assume that is on the basis of their future opponents current records.  Here is that schedule:

    6 Sun October 18 1:00PM ET preview       @ Pittsburgh Steelers                              
    7 Sun October 25 1:00PM ET preview       @ Cincinnati Bengals                              
    8 Sun November 1 1:00PM ET preview         Las Vegas Raiders                              
    9                 Bye Week                              
    10 Sun November 15 1:00PM ET preview         Houston Texans                              
    11 Sun November 22 1:00PM ET preview         Philadelphia Eagles                              
    12 Sun November 29 1:00PM ET preview       @ Jacksonville Jaguars                              
    13 Sun December 6 1:00PM ET preview       @ Tennessee Titans                              
    14 Mon December 14 8:00PM ET preview         Baltimore Ravens                              
    15 Sun December 20 1:00PM ET preview       @ New York Giants                              
    16 Sun December 27 12:00PM ET preview       @ New York Jets                              
    17 Sun January 3 1:00PM ET preview         Pittsburgh Steelers

    It looks to me that we have a combination of game against, yes, the worst teams going,  but also games against the Best teams going.

    Winless Giants and Jets.  1 win Jags, Eagles Texans, Bengals.

    Who here does not expect the Browns to win each and every one of those games?  Should we not expect  6 more victories in those games (which would give us 10 wins!!)

    I think this year is different but how many times over the years have we seen post like this only to have the Browns fall apart...lets take it one game at a time

    @footbalfan1962 said:

    I think this year is different but how many times over the years have we seen post like this only to have the Browns fall apart...lets take it one game at a time

    I'll move up from 6-10 to 7-9.??

  • I'm expecting* Stef will announce today that Case Keenum will be starting in Pittsburgh.. 😮.yikes!.?..  would this not be the Stef move to make Tomlin's head explode? Why not even wait on announcing it? Oh!!   let's say, how bout waiting until game time? Baker becomes emergency back-up QB for only Steeler week..  

    ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

  • I'm expecting* Stef will announce today that Case Keenum will be starting in Pittsburgh.. 😮.yikes!.?..  would this not be the Stef move to make Tomlin's head explode? Why not even wait on announcing it? Oh!!   let's say, how bout waiting until game time? Baker becomes emergency back-up QB for only Steeler week..  

    ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

    @gumby73 said:

    I'm expecting* Stef will announce today that Case Keenum will be starting in Pittsburgh.. 😮.yikes!.?..  would this not be the Stef move to make Tomlin's head explode? Why not even wait on announcing it? Oh!!   let's say, how bout waiting until game time? Baker becomes emergency back-up QB for only Steeler week..  

    ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

  • @gumby73 said:

    I'm expecting* Stef will announce today that Case Keenum will be starting in Pittsburgh.. 😮.yikes!.?..  would this not be the Stef move to make Tomlin's head explode? Why not even wait on announcing it? Oh!!   let's say, how bout waiting until game time? Baker becomes emergency back-up QB for only Steeler week..  

    ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

    after rewinding several times Bakes last attempted throw? I can't disagree with this at all ^^ where's he taking the shot? Shoulder or Ribs?.. they certainly ain't tell'in.. Hoping we see FULL* on today's Injury report ?

  • @gumby73 said:

    I'm expecting* Stef will announce today that Case Keenum will be starting in Pittsburgh.. 😮.yikes!.?..  would this not be the Stef move to make Tomlin's head explode? Why not even wait on announcing it? Oh!!   let's say, how bout waiting until game time? Baker becomes emergency back-up QB for only Steeler week..  

    ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

    Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

    Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

    @vagitron said:

    Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

    Ribs, depending on area, affect lats (dorsal) which can run up into your posterior delts (shoulder)

  • @vagitron said:

    Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

    Ribs, depending on area, affect lats (dorsal) which can run up into your posterior delts (shoulder)

    @tiamat63 said:

    Ribs, depending on area, affect lats (dorsal) which can run up into your posterior delts (shoulder)

    Yep.  I like Baker.  Frankly I always have liked Baker and I think we will get better.  He just needs continuity and a fleshed out system.  

    "Mama, didn't raise no wuss" was a great line from him before this game.  He just got knocked around because as i said leading into this our pass rush is relentless.  Cam knocked him pretty good at one point and that was pretty much when he was done for the game despite staying in.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

    Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

    @vagitron said:

    The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

    Absolutely. 

    The Steelers have talented players, of course, but most importantly they have a stable system in place that allows them to bring in new players and coaches and keep rolling. They are not forced to "reinvent the wheel" every two seasons like they are in Cleveland. Its why some nobody named Spillane can come in and replace Bush and make plays all over the place. It's why they can let guys go to free agency and keep chugging along.