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  • 6 games in at 4-2 and the pitchforks are already out... You guys don't deserve a franchise QB... You deserve a Trubisky/Hoyer type...

    @nickers said:

    6 games in at 4-2 and the pitchforks are already out... You guys don't deserve a franchise QB... You deserve a Trubisky/Hoyer type...

    The point is, Baker ain't a franchise QB. After his rookie season, he looked like he could very well develop into one, but since he has not evolved or improved, he has regressed. And now in his 3rd year, he looks nothing like a franchise QB. If you can shut down the rush, Browns have little chance. The Balt. and Pgh games illustrated that. 

  • I never realized there were so many QB whisperers on this forum.  Give the poor man a couple seasons with THE SAME COACH AND OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.....THEN.....you can be judgemental. What a fickle bunch you are!

  • @neo said:

    Wow.

    Everyone needs to watch this. The Steelers are not 31 points better than the Browns, neither are the Ravens 32 points better.

    The Browns and the Steelers are equals...up and down the roster.

    Except at one position.

    @gorka said:

    Wow.

    Everyone needs to watch this. The Steelers are not 31 points better than the Browns, neither are the Ravens 32 points better.

    The Browns and the Steelers are equals...up and down the roster.

    Except at one position.

    0:55 What Marcellus said and 3:20 (what other dude said) is the reason I posted this. 

    1) The Browns can't rely solely on Baker to carry the team even with all the weapons.

    2) He still can't read defenses. I don't know the guys name, but he even said the cover 1 robber is one of the first plays they learn. Baker is going backwards.

    edit

    If the Browns want to go places, Baker has to be able to make plays when other areas aren't contributing. Why where the Steelers so successful? Stop the run game and read Baker's eyes because he is a one read pony.

  • I never realized there were so many QB whisperers on this forum.  Give the poor man a couple seasons with THE SAME COACH AND OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.....THEN.....you can be judgemental. What a fickle bunch you are!

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    I never realized there were so many QB whisperers on this forum.  Give the poor man a couple seasons with THE SAME COACH AND OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.....THEN.....you can be judgemental. What a fickle bunch you are!

    The offense is LOADED with talent. Every time Jarvis makes a contested catch off a defenders back or throws a TD to Odell, every time Odell Beckham runs 50 yards for a TD on a reverse, every time Chubb rips of long gainers, or Hunt runs for big yards or scores, it exposes Baker even more and more. Everybody else is showing that they are explosive and can score and Baker comes out and throws a pick 6 to Fitzpatrick on a throw he should not be making in his 3rd year. Baker is proving himself to be the weak link in the offense.

  • Baker should not have been playing. How accurate are you at throwing a football with bruised ribs? I've had them....IT HURTS!! His fault was that he tried to play when he shouldn't have.

  • Baker should not have been playing. How accurate are you at throwing a football with bruised ribs? I've had them....IT HURTS!! His fault was that he tried to play when he shouldn't have.

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    Baker should not have been playing. How accurate are you at throwing a football with bruised ribs? I've had them....IT HURTS!! His fault was that he tried to play when he shouldn't have.

    Accuracy has nothing to do with eye misplacement.   That Baker didn't see pre-snap personnel and their alignments is my biggest concern with this team now, and the foreseeable future.   I even went through and highlighted with a breakdown that 1st pick against the Ravens week 1.

    The mental command while trying to execute fairly simple NFL level concepts is incredibly alarming.

  • @brownsfan4evr said:

    Baker should not have been playing. How accurate are you at throwing a football with bruised ribs? I've had them....IT HURTS!! His fault was that he tried to play when he shouldn't have.

    Accuracy has nothing to do with eye misplacement.   That Baker didn't see pre-snap personnel and their alignments is my biggest concern with this team now, and the foreseeable future.   I even went through and highlighted with a breakdown that 1st pick against the Ravens week 1.

    The mental command while trying to execute fairly simple NFL level concepts is incredibly alarming.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Accuracy has nothing to do with eye misplacement.   That Baker didn't see pre-snap personnel and their alignments is my biggest concern with this team now, and the foreseeable future.   I even went through and highlighted with a breakdown that 1st pick against the Ravens week 1.

    The mental command while trying to execute fairly simple NFL level concepts is incredibly alarming.

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

  • I never realized there were so many QB whisperers on this forum.  Give the poor man a couple seasons with THE SAME COACH AND OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.....THEN.....you can be judgemental. What a fickle bunch you are!

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    I never realized there were so many QB whisperers on this forum.  Give the poor man a couple seasons with THE SAME COACH AND OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.....THEN.....you can be judgemental. What a fickle bunch you are!

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    Baker should not have been playing. How accurate are you at throwing a football with bruised ribs? I've had them....IT HURTS!! His fault was that he tried to play when he shouldn't have.

    We have the exact same complaint. So are you being fickle too???

  • @brownsfan4evr said:

    I never realized there were so many QB whisperers on this forum.  Give the poor man a couple seasons with THE SAME COACH AND OFFENSIVE SYSTEM.....THEN.....you can be judgemental. What a fickle bunch you are!

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    Baker should not have been playing. How accurate are you at throwing a football with bruised ribs? I've had them....IT HURTS!! His fault was that he tried to play when he shouldn't have.

    We have the exact same complaint. So are you being fickle too???

    @texasag1969 said:

    We have the exact same complaint. So are you being fickle too???

    You have the same complaint, most everybody else is throwing him under the bus.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    We have the exact same complaint. So are you being fickle too???

    You have the same complaint, most everybody else is throwing him under the bus.

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    You have the same complaint, most everybody else is throwing him under the bus.

    Stating that he has limitations that most likely will keep him from being a very good to great QB is not what I would call "throwing him under the bus". 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Accuracy has nothing to do with eye misplacement.   That Baker didn't see pre-snap personnel and their alignments is my biggest concern with this team now, and the foreseeable future.   I even went through and highlighted with a breakdown that 1st pick against the Ravens week 1.

    The mental command while trying to execute fairly simple NFL level concepts is incredibly alarming.

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

    @nickers said:

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

    Don't ever fucking lump me in with the casual fan ever again.  If I say something on here in the mold of what I'm discussing now (Baker) - then significant thought and film has been put into it.

    Right now our QB is handicapping this offense.  Being truthful isn't "jumping ship". 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Accuracy has nothing to do with eye misplacement.   That Baker didn't see pre-snap personnel and their alignments is my biggest concern with this team now, and the foreseeable future.   I even went through and highlighted with a breakdown that 1st pick against the Ravens week 1.

    The mental command while trying to execute fairly simple NFL level concepts is incredibly alarming.

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

    @nickers said:

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

    Are the NFL analysts also overreacting then?  Or is it just because they like hating on Cleveland?

    I don't believe either.

  • @nickers said:

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

    Don't ever fucking lump me in with the casual fan ever again.  If I say something on here in the mold of what I'm discussing now (Baker) - then significant thought and film has been put into it.

    Right now our QB is handicapping this offense.  Being truthful isn't "jumping ship". 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Don't ever fucking lump me in with the casual fan ever again.  If I say something on here in the mold of what I'm discussing now (Baker) - then significant thought and film has been put into it.

    Right now our QB is handicapping this offense.  Being truthful isn't "jumping ship". 

    I lumped you in... DEAL WITH IT!

  • @nickers said:

    What is alarming is we have have fans like you who jump ship....

    2020: 10 TDs 6 INTs 1,095 yds 86.75 QBR

    2019: 5 TDs 11 INTs 1,496 yds 63.71 QBR

    I'll take his numbers at this point over last years... You are ALL overreacting!

    Are the NFL analysts also overreacting then?  Or is it just because they like hating on Cleveland?

    I don't believe either.

    @gorka said:

    Are the NFL analysts also overreacting then?  Or is it just because they like hating on Cleveland?

    I don't believe either.

    They're paid to overreact so yes for the lot of them.. And yes.. They LOVE hating on Cleveland have since we ruled the league in the 40's and 50's...

  • @gorka said:

    Are the NFL analysts also overreacting then?  Or is it just because they like hating on Cleveland?

    I don't believe either.

    They're paid to overreact so yes for the lot of them.. And yes.. They LOVE hating on Cleveland have since we ruled the league in the 40's and 50's...

    @nickers said:

    They're paid to overreact so yes for the lot of them.. And yes.. They LOVE hating on Cleveland have since we ruled the league in the 40's and 50's...

    I really did LOL .  Are you joking? 

    Come to think of it where's Gipper been? Still reeling from being blown out by the "spermsuckers"  I suppose. I imagine him crouched in a corner rocking back and forth  with his thumb in his mouth clinging to a photo of Jim Brown.

    I want to be wrong about Baker. I really do. Hopefully I will be.

  • Baker can't read defensive coverages, he made the same pick against the Ravens and Steelers. He's also become quite inaccurate  and evolving into an average QB, I'll predict that he won't be offered an extension this offseason unless he significantly turns things around.

  • Baker can't read defensive coverages, he made the same pick against the Ravens and Steelers. He's also become quite inaccurate  and evolving into an average QB, I'll predict that he won't be offered an extension this offseason unless he significantly turns things around.

    @mddawg said:

    Baker can't read defensive coverages, he made the same pick against the Ravens and Steelers. He's also become quite inaccurate  and evolving into an average QB, I'll predict that he won't be offered an extension this offseason unless he significantly turns things around.

    I can't see us not exercising his 5th-year option. He'd have to completely fall apart for that not to happen.

  • @mddawg said:

    Baker can't read defensive coverages, he made the same pick against the Ravens and Steelers. He's also become quite inaccurate  and evolving into an average QB, I'll predict that he won't be offered an extension this offseason unless he significantly turns things around.

    I can't see us not exercising his 5th-year option. He'd have to completely fall apart for that not to happen.

    @tour2ma said:

    I can't see us not exercising his 5th-year option. He'd have to completely fall apart for that not to happen.

    Take a look at the $ associated with said option for a QB?  

    I can think of 20million reasons why Barry wouldn't.

  • @mddawg said:

    Baker can't read defensive coverages, he made the same pick against the Ravens and Steelers. He's also become quite inaccurate  and evolving into an average QB, I'll predict that he won't be offered an extension this offseason unless he significantly turns things around.

    I can't see us not exercising his 5th-year option. He'd have to completely fall apart for that not to happen.

    @tour2ma said:

    I can't see us not exercising his 5th-year option. He'd have to completely fall apart for that not to happen.

    I meant long term extension ala Mahomes not 5th year option

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