Baker Mayfield
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I was surprised with Baker at #1 overall. I get it now. It takes the type of player that Baker is to be the QB of this franchise. It's only year 3. Growth is not always linear.
Perhaps, but name all the QBs who became good after regressing his 2nd and 3rd year compared to their rookie year. Jim Plunket, maybe? It's a short list. We all made excuses for 2019. But he just hasn't got any better even with a real coach instead of Freddie Ass Clown and an improved OL and TE.
Perhaps, but name all the QBs who became good after regressing his 2nd and 3rd year compared to their rookie year. Jim Plunket, maybe? It's a short list. We all made excuses for 2019. But he just hasn't got any better even with a real coach instead of Freddie Ass Clown and an improved OL and TE.
I have defended Baker for the longest time but it has come to the point where it's obvious that he is the weak link. He either up's his game or becomes another name on the back of the jersey. FACT.
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I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
What's historically been the cure for what ails Baker? The Bengals. But I'm telling you now, our DL has to step up. We haven't had a sack on the DL from someone not named Myles Garrett since week 3. I'm so sick of seeing Vernon get absolutely dominated by tackles, it's not funny. DO SOMETHING Vernon.
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I was surprised with Baker at #1 overall. I get it now. It takes the type of player that Baker is to be the QB of this franchise. It's only year 3. Growth is not always linear.
Perhaps, but name all the QBs who became good after regressing his 2nd and 3rd year compared to their rookie year. Jim Plunket, maybe? It's a short list. We all made excuses for 2019. But he just hasn't got any better even with a real coach instead of Freddie Ass Clown and an improved OL and TE.
Perhaps, but name all the QBs who became good after regressing his 2nd and 3rd year compared to their rookie year. Jim Plunket, maybe? It's a short list. We all made excuses for 2019. But he just hasn't got any better even with a real coach instead of Freddie Ass Clown and an improved OL and TE.
Meh.
Name a QB that has had 4 different head coaches in his first 3 seasons... That still has a chance to be one of three QB’s in NFL history to throw for 3500 yards and 25+ td’s.
Ya, he didn’t play well against Baltimore. Game one of a COVID season with a new head coach, new offense and no preseason... playing against the number one seed the year before, at their house. Shocker. The guy straps up to go out and play against Pitt with an injury, and doesn’t play well, mean while the defense has 2 starters playing in the back 7 and some boarder line practice squad players playing secondary....
He rips off games with over 100qbr’s and people complain he threw for under 200 yards. Why the hell would you throw the ball when your run game is what it is? It will be the same this Sunday. He will throw for under 200 yards, and they will most likely run on Cincy all day. How many yards did last years MVP throw per game last year? Cause it wasn’t over 200 many times...
The only way his option shouldn’t be picked up for the 5th year is if Dallas calls and wants to trade Dak. Otherwise, what the hell else is out there... and don’t even talk to me about this team drafting another QB.... Let’s have a few seasons where they win games and make a few playoff/wild card runs before they draft total flops at QB again or they trot out Seneca Wallace/Brian Hoyer/Case Keenum and go back into the basement.
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I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
What's historically been the cure for what ails Baker? The Bengals. But I'm telling you now, our DL has to step up. We haven't had a sack on the DL from someone not named Myles Garrett since week 3. I'm so sick of seeing Vernon get absolutely dominated by tackles, it's not funny. DO SOMETHING Vernon.
I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
Ya.... I keep hearing this too. Kept hearing how great Josh Allen was on 92.3 the Fan from Dustin Fox.
That poor SOB couldn’t have hit water throwing a football out of a boat in the middle of Lake Erie last week.
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I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
Ya.... I keep hearing this too. Kept hearing how great Josh Allen was on 92.3 the Fan from Dustin Fox.
That poor SOB couldn’t have hit water throwing a football out of a boat in the middle of Lake Erie last week.
That poor SOB couldn’t have hit water throwing a football out of a boat in the middle of Lake Erie last week.
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The biggest thing is for Baker to attack the middle. If he can't do that, his career is over. That pick 6 certainly my help because that was the easiest read ever. What Baker really needs is a game where the defense and special teams just takes over and the running game finishes it off. Let's take the pressure off the guy and let him continue to learn.
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That poor SOB couldn’t have hit water throwing a football out of a boat in the middle of Lake Erie last week.
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The biggest thing is for Baker to attack the middle. If he can't do that, his career is over. That pick 6 certainly my help because that was the easiest read ever. What Baker really needs is a game where the defense and special teams just takes over and the running game finishes it off. Let's take the pressure off the guy and let him continue to learn.
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The biggest thing is for Baker to attack the middle. If he can't do that, his career is over. That pick 6 certainly my help because that was the easiest read ever. What Baker really needs is a game where the defense and special teams just takes over and the running game finishes it off. Let's take the pressure off the guy and let him continue to learn.
And if he's playing under the same system next year, producing the same mediocre results, still surrounded by a good to very good amount of talent, what will the Baker apologists say then, I wonder?
Fine, let's go with the fact that he's played under a different head coach every year. I think that is a valid excuse.
But if he's still producing the same results next year, under Stefanski again, in his fourth season, then what?
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The biggest thing is for Baker to attack the middle. If he can't do that, his career is over. That pick 6 certainly my help because that was the easiest read ever. What Baker really needs is a game where the defense and special teams just takes over and the running game finishes it off. Let's take the pressure off the guy and let him continue to learn.
And if he's playing under the same system next year, producing the same mediocre results, still surrounded by a good to very good amount of talent, what will the Baker apologists say then, I wonder?
Fine, let's go with the fact that he's played under a different head coach every year. I think that is a valid excuse.
But if he's still producing the same results next year, under Stefanski again, in his fourth season, then what?
But if he's still producing the same results next year, under Stefanski again, in his fourth season, then what?
Tank for BQBA.?
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But if he's still producing the same results next year, under Stefanski again, in his fourth season, then what?
Tank for BQBA.?
Tank for BQBA.?
Barbecue? I'm always in for a barbecue.
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Tank for BQBA.?
Barbecue? I'm always in for a barbecue.
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I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
What's historically been the cure for what ails Baker? The Bengals. But I'm telling you now, our DL has to step up. We haven't had a sack on the DL from someone not named Myles Garrett since week 3. I'm so sick of seeing Vernon get absolutely dominated by tackles, it's not funny. DO SOMETHING Vernon.
I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
What's historically been the cure for what ails Baker? The Bengals. But I'm telling you now, our DL has to step up. We haven't had a sack on the DL from someone not named Myles Garrett since week 3. I'm so sick of seeing Vernon get absolutely dominated by tackles, it's not funny. DO SOMETHING Vernon.
They say he had sore ribs and whatever......but what about the offensive letdown last year.......with the defensive problems to be fair.
Do the BROWNS try to hang on to the same coaching carrosel currently in place for a few years to see what happens ?
Unfortunately the BROWNS currently aren't in the NFCE right now and their division might be tough for a few years to come. But maybe a 5-2 record will cheer everyone up !
........ don't even think about 20 more years of futility.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Tank for BQBA.?
Barbecue? I'm always in for a barbecue.
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I forgot, I charted plays and watched half a season's games worth of OU football that year. Dated November 21, 2017.
One of my largest observations that season was Baker throwing off ball action and no action. The results were pretty significantly different at times.
Now ask yourself, has anything really progressed or improved fundamentally with our QB in 3 years?
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Dispassionate accuracy is frowned upon, tia. There must be some excuse for Baker's consistent inconsistency other than a lack of skill!
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Baker needs a good game this week. Big opportunity to bounce back. Pass rush of Cincy won’t be nearly as good as Pitts was
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Baker needs a good game this week. Big opportunity to bounce back. Pass rush of Cincy won’t be nearly as good as Pitts was
Baker needs a good game this week. Big opportunity to bounce back. Pass rush of Cincy won’t be nearly as good as Pitts was
If they don't win by 20, then there is reason for concern. They should blow the Bungs out, 34-10 or something like that. Cinci didn't get the 1st pick overall in the draft because they are good.
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Wow.
Everyone needs to watch this. The Steelers are not 31 points better than the Browns, neither are the Ravens 32 points better.
The Browns and the Steelers are equals...up and down the roster.
Except at one position.
You can't believe this can you? Let's go through the 22.
QB: Not even a discussion, BR WAY over BM
RB: Hunt/Chubb over Conner
WR1: OBJ over JuJu
WR2: Landry over Washington
WR3: Claypool over Higgins
TE: Hooper by a bit
LT: Villanueva over Wills
LG: Bitonio over Feller
C- Pouncey over Trotter
RG: Decastro over Teller
RT: Conklin over Okorafor
Offense: Cleveland 6 Pittsburgh 5
DE: Garrett over Twitter
DT: Heyward over Ogunjobi
NT/DT/DE: Alualu over Richardson/Vernon
OLB: Watt WAY over Wilson
ILB: Bush WAY over Goodson
ILB: Williams over Phillips
OLB: Dupree WAY over Takitaki/Smith
CB: Ward over Haden
CB: Nelson over Mitchell
FS: Fitzpatrick WAY over Sendejo
SS: Edmunds WAY over Joseph
Defense: Pittsburgh 9 Cleveland 2
Total: Pittsburgh 14 Cleveland 8
Baker was terrible, but to think that the teams up and down the roster are even is when you get unreachable expectations.
While unlikely, if the Browns are fully healthy and play a very good game with the right game plan they can beat Pittsburgh. But they are a bad match up for Browns anytime they play. They have an above average Offense (while the Browns have a below average defense at best) and they have probably the best defense in the NFL and the Browns have a very good explosive offense (especially with Chubb and IF Baker is having a good day). But they DON'T have the NFL best offense
You can't believe this can you? Let's go through the 22.
QB: Not even a discussion, BR WAY over BM
RB: Hunt/Chubb over Conner
WR1: OBJ over JuJu
WR2: Landry over Washington
WR3: Claypool over Higgins
TE: Hooper by a bit
LT: Villanueva over Wills
LG: Bitonio over Feller
C- Pouncey over Trotter
RG: Decastro over Teller
RT: Conklin over Okorafor
Offense: Cleveland 6 Pittsburgh 5
DE: Garrett over Twitter
DT: Heyward over Ogunjobi
NT/DT/DE: Alualu over Richardson/Vernon
OLB: Watt WAY over Wilson
ILB: Bush WAY over Goodson
ILB: Williams over Phillips
OLB: Dupree WAY over Takitaki/Smith
CB: Ward over Haden
CB: Nelson over Mitchell
FS: Fitzpatrick WAY over Sendejo
SS: Edmunds WAY over Joseph
Defense: Pittsburgh 9 Cleveland 2
Total: Pittsburgh 14 Cleveland 8
Baker was terrible, but to think that the teams up and down the roster are even is when you get unreachable expectations.
While unlikely, if the Browns are fully healthy and play a very good game with the right game plan they can beat Pittsburgh. But they are a bad match up for Browns anytime they play. They have an above average Offense (while the Browns have a below average defense at best) and they have probably the best defense in the NFL and the Browns have a very good explosive offense (especially with Chubb and IF Baker is having a good day). But they DON'T have the NFL best offense
DeCastro over Teller is a joke Dude... LOL!
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You can't believe this can you? Let's go through the 22.
QB: Not even a discussion, BR WAY over BM
RB: Hunt/Chubb over Conner
WR1: OBJ over JuJu
WR2: Landry over Washington
WR3: Claypool over Higgins
TE: Hooper by a bit
LT: Villanueva over Wills
LG: Bitonio over Feller
C- Pouncey over Trotter
RG: Decastro over Teller
RT: Conklin over Okorafor
Offense: Cleveland 6 Pittsburgh 5
DE: Garrett over Twitter
DT: Heyward over Ogunjobi
NT/DT/DE: Alualu over Richardson/Vernon
OLB: Watt WAY over Wilson
ILB: Bush WAY over Goodson
ILB: Williams over Phillips
OLB: Dupree WAY over Takitaki/Smith
CB: Ward over Haden
CB: Nelson over Mitchell
FS: Fitzpatrick WAY over Sendejo
SS: Edmunds WAY over Joseph
Defense: Pittsburgh 9 Cleveland 2
Total: Pittsburgh 14 Cleveland 8
Baker was terrible, but to think that the teams up and down the roster are even is when you get unreachable expectations.
While unlikely, if the Browns are fully healthy and play a very good game with the right game plan they can beat Pittsburgh. But they are a bad match up for Browns anytime they play. They have an above average Offense (while the Browns have a below average defense at best) and they have probably the best defense in the NFL and the Browns have a very good explosive offense (especially with Chubb and IF Baker is having a good day). But they DON'T have the NFL best offense
DeCastro over Teller is a joke Dude... LOL!
DeCastro over Teller is a joke Dude... LOL!
Teller has played extremely well this year, but at the start of the year his position was the ONLY question mark on the offense.
And this isn't a ranking on just the games played so far this season, as a number of factors can go into a good/bad start.
Now if you want to do on just this year based on stats, etc. then Conner would be ranked ahead of Chubb and Claypool over both OBJ and Landry.
Or we can go on a broader spectrum: Keelan Cole and Cole Beasley are better than Mike Evans and Julio Jones, Kenyan Drake and Miles Sanders are better than Zeke, Aaron Jones, and Josh Jacobs. Or QB, Minshew is better than Burrow, Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, etc.
But sure, lets just go ahead and agree with you on this one for argument sake. 13-9
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Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
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