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  • @jiggins7919 said:

    You remember watching San Francisco's offense? How almost every play looked the same and they ran 9 different attacks out of the same formation? Yeah, that's what WE'LL be doing. 

    That's window dressing and every team does (or at least attempts) do that.  

    @barry said:

    I hear where you're coming from. But if one guy is dropping passes and one guy is catching them , in fact, 2 in a row for touchdowns, then for me that is not speculative analysis but objective facts. 

    Having said that, to proclaim Bryant the 2nd TE is premature. but to say he is pushing Njoku hard from what can be seen by observers, is worth considering, imo.

    No issue with the first above, more of agreement in the 2nd line.    The problem is, using Njoku as a baseline for comparison.  Especially in something like a limited contact camp.    I have zero doubt Njoku is going to be pushed.   In all honesty, if any athlete comparing to him that had a little more time working on routes coming out of school made this team, then David was always going to be the odd man out.   In which case, that's just what HB was brought in to be.        Now do I think the rookie will step in and fill some type of offensive void?  Not really.  Even rookies getting the #1 spot as a TE don't tend to make that overwhelming splash difference.   Closest I can remember might be Shockey?  Gronk?  Cooley aaaaaaand that's about it?     Harrison will be a nice compliment, but I'm withholding any pedestal given until well into the season.  Even then, rookie TE's always hit a pretty high wall that first season.      

    He looks good in camp? Great.   I'm still not factoring him as any significant part of this offense sans (god forbid) Hooper going down or some type of offensive juggernaut emerging from 21 personnel.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Now do I think the rookie will step in and fill some type of offensive void?  Not really.  Even rookies getting the #1 spot as a TE don't tend to make that overwhelming splash difference. 

    Again, you're mostly right. As previously mentioned, TE is one of the toughest positions for rookies to quickly learn. But this feels different. The offense is super TE friendly, Hooper will get a ton of attention, and Bryant works extremely hard. You're probably right, Bryant won't make much of an impact, but you never know. He kind of sounds like a freaking natural, ya know? For those who don't know, he played OL forever before learning TE late in his career. That's crazy. Usually TEs go to offensive line, but not the other way around. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    That's window dressing and every team does (or at least attempts) do that.  

    True to a point but not to the extent San Francisco and Minnesota do it. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    True to a point but not to the extent San Francisco and Minnesota do it. 

    In 21 personnel, center and OZ? Sure. But what about teams that are gun and IZ based?  Hawks, Eagles, Bolts, Colts, etc etc.    Every team does it to an extent.

  • The louder he is with wanting out, the more I hope they keep him. 

  • Njoku fell below the Vickie Mendoza Diagonal [aka the hot-crazy relationship line] a while ago.  Not one of Sashi's better picks.

  • His rap sheet is: bad blocking, drops, huge vertical jump that I've almost never seen being useful, but also some good TDs and catches...

    I would like to keep him, but he hasn't lived up to his 1st round pick status. 

     

  • @icecube said:

    Drew coached him into saying that. The writing was on the wall, they took a shot and no team bit. It's a good development for the Browns. Now Joke will give his version of his best effort. Add up a motivated Joke, Hooper, Landry, OBJ, Chubb. Could be serious. 

    Could is the operative word here... But year in and year out we win the offseason then stink like high hell when it counts... Until they prove otherwise... This team is complete and utter garbage... They'll be lucky to win 6 games this year...

    @nickers said:

    Could is the operative word here... But year in and year out we win the offseason then stink like high hell when it counts... Until they prove otherwise... This team is complete and utter garbage... They'll be lucky to win 6 games this year...

    yipper......right now we are not even close to competing in our division...not even close..with all these so called super stars.....right now it appears the start of another downward spiral watching obj on the sidelines bitching it up again....lose to the bagels this weekend and look out bro.......it will be the falling apart.....they best win this game....oh and jarvis...you who bitched about how bad tannehill was....that he was the issue in miami.....you and your stupid wife complaing to the miami fo.....all i can say is that i hope tanny is saying.....how you like me now.....hahahahahaaaaaa....

  • His rap sheet is: bad blocking, drops, huge vertical jump that I've almost never seen being useful, but also some good TDs and catches...

    I would like to keep him, but he hasn't lived up to his 1st round pick status. 

     

    @nero said:

    His rape sheet is:

    I know you are still working on your American lingo, but this was unintentionally hilarious! ?

    That would be "rap" sheet, Nero. 

  • @nero said:

    His rape sheet is:

    I know you are still working on your American lingo, but this was unintentionally hilarious! ?

    That would be "rap" sheet, Nero. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I know you are still working on your American lingo, but this was unintentionally hilarious! ?

    That would be "rap" sheet, Nero. 

    LOOOL. Thanks 

  • Looks like Hooper is a no go this next game so time for Njoku to shine.

  • His rap sheet is: bad blocking, drops, huge vertical jump that I've almost never seen being useful, but also some good TDs and catches...

    I would like to keep him, but he hasn't lived up to his 1st round pick status. 

     

    @nero said:

    His rap sheet is: bad blocking

    THIS...is a problem in Stefanski's offense.  The TE's HAVE TO block in his wide zone running attack.  Njoku is God-awful at blocking.

  • @nero said:

    His rap sheet is: bad blocking

    THIS...is a problem in Stefanski's offense.  The TE's HAVE TO block in his wide zone running attack.  Njoku is God-awful at blocking.

    @orion said:

    THIS...is a problem in Stefanski's offense.  The TE's HAVE TO block in his wide zone running attack.  Njoku is God-awful at blocking.

    He's not the best but I'm pretty sure he is getting better this year. I don't have stats to support this, so I could definitely be wrong, but Njoku seems to be doing a better job. He's certainly not Hooper, but maybe he can make up for it by getting vertical (assuming Baker can actually throw to the middle). 

    We're going to need him today. 

  • hopefully he will show of his talents today I mean really balls out and then trade his ass lets say to the giants to get peppers back and if we have to throw in a draft pick then so be it

  • hopefully he will show of his talents today I mean really balls out and then trade his ass lets say to the giants to get peppers back and if we have to throw in a draft pick then so be it

    @atom said:

    hopefully he will show of his talents today I mean really balls out and then trade his ass lets say to the giants to get peppers back and if we have to throw in a draft pick then so be it

    Down the seam TD catch, a play we hadn't seen for some time by our TEs as Tour pointed out... 

  • @atom said:

    hopefully he will show of his talents today I mean really balls out and then trade his ass lets say to the giants to get peppers back and if we have to throw in a draft pick then so be it

    Down the seam TD catch, a play we hadn't seen for some time by our TEs as Tour pointed out... 

    @nero said:

    Down the seam TD catch, a play we hadn't seen for some time by our TEs as Tour pointed out... 

    Bryant looked awesome

  • Our TEs are playing well, and I even saw Njoku blocking well on some run plays. 

  • Our TEs are playing well, and I even saw Njoku blocking well on some run plays. 

    @nero said:

    Our TEs are playing well, and I even saw Njoku blocking well on some run plays. 

    Ditto... not exactly a roadgrader, but I noted a couple nice seal blocks on the backend of ZBS calls away from him.

    Plus a highlight reel TD catch...

  • @atom said:

    hopefully he will show of his talents today I mean really balls out and then trade his ass lets say to the giants to get peppers back and if we have to throw in a draft pick then so be it

    Down the seam TD catch, a play we hadn't seen for some time by our TEs as Tour pointed out... 

    @nero said:

    Down the seam TD catch, a play we hadn't seen for some time by our TEs as Tour pointed out... 

    You'd think a team that runs as well as our does, with athletic TEs and a QB whose strength is play-action would feature this? It is surprising. 

    Njoku is probably the best of the three for the down-the-seam route, though. 

  • @nero said:

    Down the seam TD catch, a play we hadn't seen for some time by our TEs as Tour pointed out... 

    You'd think a team that runs as well as our does, with athletic TEs and a QB whose strength is play-action would feature this? It is surprising. 

    Njoku is probably the best of the three for the down-the-seam route, though. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Njoku is probably the best of the three for the down-the-seam route, though. 

    Baker missed badly on a similar throw earlier in the game. It was a vertical route that he didn't put enough air on, but that TD throw was absolutely gorgeous and Njoku made a HECK of a catch. It was literally perfect and I knew Baker was feeling it when he made that throw. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Njoku is probably the best of the three for the down-the-seam route, though. 

    Baker missed badly on a similar throw earlier in the game. It was a vertical route that he didn't put enough air on, but that TD throw was absolutely gorgeous and Njoku made a HECK of a catch. It was literally perfect and I knew Baker was feeling it when he made that throw. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Baker missed badly on a similar throw earlier in the game. It was a vertical route that he didn't put enough air on, but that TD throw was absolutely gorgeous and Njoku made a HECK of a catch. It was literally perfect and I knew Baker was feeling it when he made that throw. 

    THAT throw was 2018 Baker.