Baker Mayfield
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Dispassionate accuracy is frowned upon, tia. There must be some excuse for Baker's consistent inconsistency other than a lack of skill!
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Baker needs a good game this week. Big opportunity to bounce back. Pass rush of Cincy won’t be nearly as good as Pitts was
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Baker needs a good game this week. Big opportunity to bounce back. Pass rush of Cincy won’t be nearly as good as Pitts was
Baker needs a good game this week. Big opportunity to bounce back. Pass rush of Cincy won’t be nearly as good as Pitts was
If they don't win by 20, then there is reason for concern. They should blow the Bungs out, 34-10 or something like that. Cinci didn't get the 1st pick overall in the draft because they are good.
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Wow.
Everyone needs to watch this. The Steelers are not 31 points better than the Browns, neither are the Ravens 32 points better.
The Browns and the Steelers are equals...up and down the roster.
Except at one position.
You can't believe this can you? Let's go through the 22.
QB: Not even a discussion, BR WAY over BM
RB: Hunt/Chubb over Conner
WR1: OBJ over JuJu
WR2: Landry over Washington
WR3: Claypool over Higgins
TE: Hooper by a bit
LT: Villanueva over Wills
LG: Bitonio over Feller
C- Pouncey over Trotter
RG: Decastro over Teller
RT: Conklin over Okorafor
Offense: Cleveland 6 Pittsburgh 5
DE: Garrett over Twitter
DT: Heyward over Ogunjobi
NT/DT/DE: Alualu over Richardson/Vernon
OLB: Watt WAY over Wilson
ILB: Bush WAY over Goodson
ILB: Williams over Phillips
OLB: Dupree WAY over Takitaki/Smith
CB: Ward over Haden
CB: Nelson over Mitchell
FS: Fitzpatrick WAY over Sendejo
SS: Edmunds WAY over Joseph
Defense: Pittsburgh 9 Cleveland 2
Total: Pittsburgh 14 Cleveland 8
Baker was terrible, but to think that the teams up and down the roster are even is when you get unreachable expectations.
While unlikely, if the Browns are fully healthy and play a very good game with the right game plan they can beat Pittsburgh. But they are a bad match up for Browns anytime they play. They have an above average Offense (while the Browns have a below average defense at best) and they have probably the best defense in the NFL and the Browns have a very good explosive offense (especially with Chubb and IF Baker is having a good day). But they DON'T have the NFL best offense
You can't believe this can you? Let's go through the 22.
QB: Not even a discussion, BR WAY over BM
RB: Hunt/Chubb over Conner
WR1: OBJ over JuJu
WR2: Landry over Washington
WR3: Claypool over Higgins
TE: Hooper by a bit
LT: Villanueva over Wills
LG: Bitonio over Feller
C- Pouncey over Trotter
RG: Decastro over Teller
RT: Conklin over Okorafor
Offense: Cleveland 6 Pittsburgh 5
DE: Garrett over Twitter
DT: Heyward over Ogunjobi
NT/DT/DE: Alualu over Richardson/Vernon
OLB: Watt WAY over Wilson
ILB: Bush WAY over Goodson
ILB: Williams over Phillips
OLB: Dupree WAY over Takitaki/Smith
CB: Ward over Haden
CB: Nelson over Mitchell
FS: Fitzpatrick WAY over Sendejo
SS: Edmunds WAY over Joseph
Defense: Pittsburgh 9 Cleveland 2
Total: Pittsburgh 14 Cleveland 8
Baker was terrible, but to think that the teams up and down the roster are even is when you get unreachable expectations.
While unlikely, if the Browns are fully healthy and play a very good game with the right game plan they can beat Pittsburgh. But they are a bad match up for Browns anytime they play. They have an above average Offense (while the Browns have a below average defense at best) and they have probably the best defense in the NFL and the Browns have a very good explosive offense (especially with Chubb and IF Baker is having a good day). But they DON'T have the NFL best offense
DeCastro over Teller is a joke Dude... LOL!
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You can't believe this can you? Let's go through the 22.
QB: Not even a discussion, BR WAY over BM
RB: Hunt/Chubb over Conner
WR1: OBJ over JuJu
WR2: Landry over Washington
WR3: Claypool over Higgins
TE: Hooper by a bit
LT: Villanueva over Wills
LG: Bitonio over Feller
C- Pouncey over Trotter
RG: Decastro over Teller
RT: Conklin over Okorafor
Offense: Cleveland 6 Pittsburgh 5
DE: Garrett over Twitter
DT: Heyward over Ogunjobi
NT/DT/DE: Alualu over Richardson/Vernon
OLB: Watt WAY over Wilson
ILB: Bush WAY over Goodson
ILB: Williams over Phillips
OLB: Dupree WAY over Takitaki/Smith
CB: Ward over Haden
CB: Nelson over Mitchell
FS: Fitzpatrick WAY over Sendejo
SS: Edmunds WAY over Joseph
Defense: Pittsburgh 9 Cleveland 2
Total: Pittsburgh 14 Cleveland 8
Baker was terrible, but to think that the teams up and down the roster are even is when you get unreachable expectations.
While unlikely, if the Browns are fully healthy and play a very good game with the right game plan they can beat Pittsburgh. But they are a bad match up for Browns anytime they play. They have an above average Offense (while the Browns have a below average defense at best) and they have probably the best defense in the NFL and the Browns have a very good explosive offense (especially with Chubb and IF Baker is having a good day). But they DON'T have the NFL best offense
DeCastro over Teller is a joke Dude... LOL!
DeCastro over Teller is a joke Dude... LOL!
Teller has played extremely well this year, but at the start of the year his position was the ONLY question mark on the offense.
And this isn't a ranking on just the games played so far this season, as a number of factors can go into a good/bad start.
Now if you want to do on just this year based on stats, etc. then Conner would be ranked ahead of Chubb and Claypool over both OBJ and Landry.
Or we can go on a broader spectrum: Keelan Cole and Cole Beasley are better than Mike Evans and Julio Jones, Kenyan Drake and Miles Sanders are better than Zeke, Aaron Jones, and Josh Jacobs. Or QB, Minshew is better than Burrow, Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, etc.
But sure, lets just go ahead and agree with you on this one for argument sake. 13-9
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Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
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Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
DeCastro is certainly talented.. But I'm not putting him in the HOF just yet... I think Teller has way more upside
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I'm not trying to pile on because I desperately want Baker to succeed, but I'm watching the Eagles and Giants play and both QBs are making throws that Baker can't make.
What's historically been the cure for what ails Baker? The Bengals. But I'm telling you now, our DL has to step up. We haven't had a sack on the DL from someone not named Myles Garrett since week 3. I'm so sick of seeing Vernon get absolutely dominated by tackles, it's not funny. DO SOMETHING Vernon.
They say he had sore ribs and whatever......but what about the offensive letdown last year.......with the defensive problems to be fair.
Do the BROWNS try to hang on to the same coaching carrosel currently in place for a few years to see what happens ?
Unfortunately the BROWNS currently aren't in the NFCE right now and their division might be tough for a few years to come. But maybe a 5-2 record will cheer everyone up !
........ don't even think about 20 more years of futility.
They say he had sore ribs and whatever......but what about the offensive letdown last year.......with the defensive problems to be fair.
Do the BROWNS try to hang on to the same coaching carrosel currently in place for a few years to see what happens ?
Unfortunately the BROWNS currently aren't in the NFCE right now and their division might be tough for a few years to come. But maybe a 5-2 record will cheer everyone up !
........ don't even think about 20 more years of futility.
I honestly think our coaching staff is top notch. The Teller injury is huge and I don't like not having a better backup RG. Hubbard is a terrific teammate and person, but he's a better Tackle than guard. He can pass block, can't run block.
Remember getting our asses blown apart against Baltimore? Then looking great against Cincy? Yeah, we've got Cincy again but this time we have our stud nickel back (Kevin Johnson) instead of poor Tavierre Thomas. We've also got Karl Joseph AND Ronnie Harrison back. Our defense will be so much better Sunday, trust me.
Are we perfect? No. We miss Chubb. We'll miss Hooper (Wtf?!) and we'll certainly miss Teller. But you know what? It's Kareem Hunt time. He'll have 3 total tds and well over 150 total yards. Trust me, he'll blow up.
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They say he had sore ribs and whatever......but what about the offensive letdown last year.......with the defensive problems to be fair.
Do the BROWNS try to hang on to the same coaching carrosel currently in place for a few years to see what happens ?
Unfortunately the BROWNS currently aren't in the NFCE right now and their division might be tough for a few years to come. But maybe a 5-2 record will cheer everyone up !
........ don't even think about 20 more years of futility.
I honestly think our coaching staff is top notch. The Teller injury is huge and I don't like not having a better backup RG. Hubbard is a terrific teammate and person, but he's a better Tackle than guard. He can pass block, can't run block.
Remember getting our asses blown apart against Baltimore? Then looking great against Cincy? Yeah, we've got Cincy again but this time we have our stud nickel back (Kevin Johnson) instead of poor Tavierre Thomas. We've also got Karl Joseph AND Ronnie Harrison back. Our defense will be so much better Sunday, trust me.
Are we perfect? No. We miss Chubb. We'll miss Hooper (Wtf?!) and we'll certainly miss Teller. But you know what? It's Kareem Hunt time. He'll have 3 total tds and well over 150 total yards. Trust me, he'll blow up.
I honestly think our coaching staff is top notch. The Teller injury is huge and I don't like not having a better backup RG. Hubbard is a terrific teammate and person, but he's a better Tackle than guard. He can pass block, can't run block.
Remember getting our asses blown apart against Baltimore? Then looking great against Cincy? Yeah, we've got Cincy again but this time we have our stud nickel back (Kevin Johnson) instead of poor Tavierre Thomas. We've also got Karl Joseph AND Ronnie Harrison back. Our defense will be so much better Sunday, trust me.
Are we perfect? No. We miss Chubb. We'll miss Hooper (Wtf?!) and we'll certainly miss Teller. But you know what? It's Kareem Hunt time. He'll have 3 total tds and well over 150 total yards. Trust me, he'll blow up.
The rook TE looks very promising though...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
That was the exact point I was making. I know he was rated at the best, and he very well may end up being better in the long run.
DeCastro is certainly talented.. But I'm not putting him in the HOF just yet... I think Teller has way more upside
Well 1st nobody said he was a HOF player, and nobody said anything about upside, but you did say it was joke to rank DD over WT based on something? So are you of the opinion that what Teller has done in his 5 games this year has given him the huge jump to surpass him? Because based off of last season, Teller was rated at 56.8 grade, while Decastro was a pro bowler. And heading into the season, Decastro was rated as the 5th best interior OL in the entire league.
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I honestly think our coaching staff is top notch. The Teller injury is huge and I don't like not having a better backup RG. Hubbard is a terrific teammate and person, but he's a better Tackle than guard. He can pass block, can't run block.
Remember getting our asses blown apart against Baltimore? Then looking great against Cincy? Yeah, we've got Cincy again but this time we have our stud nickel back (Kevin Johnson) instead of poor Tavierre Thomas. We've also got Karl Joseph AND Ronnie Harrison back. Our defense will be so much better Sunday, trust me.
Are we perfect? No. We miss Chubb. We'll miss Hooper (Wtf?!) and we'll certainly miss Teller. But you know what? It's Kareem Hunt time. He'll have 3 total tds and well over 150 total yards. Trust me, he'll blow up.
The rook TE looks very promising though...
The rook TE looks very promising though...
He's an actual stud, but we're not going to see him make any noise until Baker gets his middle of the field mojo back.
Look for that to happen Sunday.
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Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
That was the exact point I was making. I know he was rated at the best, and he very well may end up being better in the long run.
DeCastro is certainly talented.. But I'm not putting him in the HOF just yet... I think Teller has way more upside
Well 1st nobody said he was a HOF player, and nobody said anything about upside, but you did say it was joke to rank DD over WT based on something? So are you of the opinion that what Teller has done in his 5 games this year has given him the huge jump to surpass him? Because based off of last season, Teller was rated at 56.8 grade, while Decastro was a pro bowler. And heading into the season, Decastro was rated as the 5th best interior OL in the entire league.
That was the exact point I was making. I know he was rated at the best, and he very well may end up being better in the long run.
Well 1st nobody said he was a HOF player, and nobody said anything about upside, but you did say it was joke to rank DD over WT based on something? So are you of the opinion that what Teller has done in his 5 games this year has given him the huge jump to surpass him? Because based off of last season, Teller was rated at 56.8 grade, while Decastro was a pro bowler. And heading into the season, Decastro was rated as the 5th best interior OL in the entire league.
Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Baker Mayfield was the Pro Football Focus darling of the QB class entering the 2018 NFL Draft.
What are they saying about him now?
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-its-time-to-panic-about-cleveland-browns-qb-baker-mayfield
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That was the exact point I was making. I know he was rated at the best, and he very well may end up being better in the long run.
Well 1st nobody said he was a HOF player, and nobody said anything about upside, but you did say it was joke to rank DD over WT based on something? So are you of the opinion that what Teller has done in his 5 games this year has given him the huge jump to surpass him? Because based off of last season, Teller was rated at 56.8 grade, while Decastro was a pro bowler. And heading into the season, Decastro was rated as the 5th best interior OL in the entire league.
Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games...
Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games...
Well there is a difference, i.e. Baker isn't considered at the top of his position.
But its not so much of thinking Teller will be better. Its the fact you actually tried to make it look as if it was so bad of a take.
The way this reads, since there is no conceivable way you have based this off anything aside from the 1st 5 games this year, then Teller is the best OL in the league (since that is what his grade would tell you). And I hate to tell you this, but since you alluded to it here, Burrow would then be better than Baker by that same metric.
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To be clear, I said Burrow was better than Baker before he was even drafted.
6 games wasn't even necessary.
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That was the exact point I was making. I know he was rated at the best, and he very well may end up being better in the long run.
Well 1st nobody said he was a HOF player, and nobody said anything about upside, but you did say it was joke to rank DD over WT based on something? So are you of the opinion that what Teller has done in his 5 games this year has given him the huge jump to surpass him? Because based off of last season, Teller was rated at 56.8 grade, while Decastro was a pro bowler. And heading into the season, Decastro was rated as the 5th best interior OL in the entire league.
Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games...
Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games..
Yeah, that's not entirely fair. What Burrow is doing is dominating the 10-19 yard range, which is something that Baker ISN'T doing. Burrow is 1 of his last 28 on passes longer than 20 yards (per Browns Daily) and he's dominating with the midrange but still struggling getting the ball down the field.
If you recall, Burrow caught fire against us, specifically to his slot receiver, Boyd. This should not happen again, mainly because we won't have Tavierre Thomas covering him and we have the underrated Kevin Johnson at the nickel, and we'll also have Ronnie Harrison AND Karl Joseph in our secondary. That's gigantic and should alter the landscape of the game.
Burrow is doing things that rookies typically don't. He also missed AJ Green twice by a very small margin on deep shots, so you don't want them to find their chemistry against us. Owning the 10-19 yard range is something rookies almost NEVER do, so the praise for Burrow is definitely justified. Conversely, Baker isn't looking as good, and his last two halves of football resulted in 4 interceptions, basically no big completions, and about 7 total points.
To be fair, those 2 halves were against terrific defenses. Additionally, Baker has ALWAYS played well against the Bengals and that's who we have Sunday. I would definitely expect Baker to be throwing it around the yard tomorrow. Cincy will not bring a lot of pressure, and they will be MORE than happy to sit back and let Baker try to beat them through the air. They know their offense is clicking and they know Baker is hurting. They also know that Baker throws high, so guess what? Eventually Baker will give it you. It's up to us to get the running game going and keep our offense balanced. If we do that, we win. If Baker throws 40+ times we lose.
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Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games..
Yeah, that's not entirely fair. What Burrow is doing is dominating the 10-19 yard range, which is something that Baker ISN'T doing. Burrow is 1 of his last 28 on passes longer than 20 yards (per Browns Daily) and he's dominating with the midrange but still struggling getting the ball down the field.
If you recall, Burrow caught fire against us, specifically to his slot receiver, Boyd. This should not happen again, mainly because we won't have Tavierre Thomas covering him and we have the underrated Kevin Johnson at the nickel, and we'll also have Ronnie Harrison AND Karl Joseph in our secondary. That's gigantic and should alter the landscape of the game.
Burrow is doing things that rookies typically don't. He also missed AJ Green twice by a very small margin on deep shots, so you don't want them to find their chemistry against us. Owning the 10-19 yard range is something rookies almost NEVER do, so the praise for Burrow is definitely justified. Conversely, Baker isn't looking as good, and his last two halves of football resulted in 4 interceptions, basically no big completions, and about 7 total points.
To be fair, those 2 halves were against terrific defenses. Additionally, Baker has ALWAYS played well against the Bengals and that's who we have Sunday. I would definitely expect Baker to be throwing it around the yard tomorrow. Cincy will not bring a lot of pressure, and they will be MORE than happy to sit back and let Baker try to beat them through the air. They know their offense is clicking and they know Baker is hurting. They also know that Baker throws high, so guess what? Eventually Baker will give it you. It's up to us to get the running game going and keep our offense balanced. If we do that, we win. If Baker throws 40+ times we lose.
Burrow is doing things that rookies typically don't. He also missed AJ Green twice by a very small margin on deep shots, so you don't want them to find their chemistry against us.
Oh no! Now you've done it. We're screwed!??
BTW watch how many times they manage a 1 on 1 with Sendejo. Definitely screwed against our "speedster" safety (if you count turtle races he's won).??
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The QB whisperer wants his shot too! https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2914765-baker-mayfields-talent-not-being-maximized-in-browns-system-hue-jackson-says 
Planet Pluto too! https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/10/heres-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-team-views-the-season-baker-so-far-terrys-talkin-browns.html As you were..Carry on!
Edit-- AJ Green was targeted 11 times for 8 catches & 96 yards Vs the Colts defense last week.. chemist found...
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Hey why not... There are people out there who think Burrow is better than Baker and he's only played 6 fucking games..
Yeah, that's not entirely fair. What Burrow is doing is dominating the 10-19 yard range, which is something that Baker ISN'T doing. Burrow is 1 of his last 28 on passes longer than 20 yards (per Browns Daily) and he's dominating with the midrange but still struggling getting the ball down the field.
If you recall, Burrow caught fire against us, specifically to his slot receiver, Boyd. This should not happen again, mainly because we won't have Tavierre Thomas covering him and we have the underrated Kevin Johnson at the nickel, and we'll also have Ronnie Harrison AND Karl Joseph in our secondary. That's gigantic and should alter the landscape of the game.
Burrow is doing things that rookies typically don't. He also missed AJ Green twice by a very small margin on deep shots, so you don't want them to find their chemistry against us. Owning the 10-19 yard range is something rookies almost NEVER do, so the praise for Burrow is definitely justified. Conversely, Baker isn't looking as good, and his last two halves of football resulted in 4 interceptions, basically no big completions, and about 7 total points.
To be fair, those 2 halves were against terrific defenses. Additionally, Baker has ALWAYS played well against the Bengals and that's who we have Sunday. I would definitely expect Baker to be throwing it around the yard tomorrow. Cincy will not bring a lot of pressure, and they will be MORE than happy to sit back and let Baker try to beat them through the air. They know their offense is clicking and they know Baker is hurting. They also know that Baker throws high, so guess what? Eventually Baker will give it you. It's up to us to get the running game going and keep our offense balanced. If we do that, we win. If Baker throws 40+ times we lose.
Yeah, that's not entirely fair. What Burrow is doing is dominating the 10-19 yard range, which is something that Baker ISN'T doing. Burrow is 1 of his last 28 on passes longer than 20 yards (per Browns Daily) and he's dominating with the midrange but still struggling getting the ball down the field.
If you recall, Burrow caught fire against us, specifically to his slot receiver, Boyd. This should not happen again, mainly because we won't have Tavierre Thomas covering him and we have the underrated Kevin Johnson at the nickel, and we'll also have Ronnie Harrison AND Karl Joseph in our secondary. That's gigantic and should alter the landscape of the game.
Burrow is doing things that rookies typically don't. He also missed AJ Green twice by a very small margin on deep shots, so you don't want them to find their chemistry against us. Owning the 10-19 yard range is something rookies almost NEVER do, so the praise for Burrow is definitely justified. Conversely, Baker isn't looking as good, and his last two halves of football resulted in 4 interceptions, basically no big completions, and about 7 total points.
To be fair, those 2 halves were against terrific defenses. Additionally, Baker has ALWAYS played well against the Bengals and that's who we have Sunday. I would definitely expect Baker to be throwing it around the yard tomorrow. Cincy will not bring a lot of pressure, and they will be MORE than happy to sit back and let Baker try to beat them through the air. They know their offense is clicking and they know Baker is hurting. They also know that Baker throws high, so guess what? Eventually Baker will give it you. It's up to us to get the running game going and keep our offense balanced. If we do that, we win. If Baker throws 40+ times we lose.
Still not buying it...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
Teller played as the best graded guard in the game Before he got hurt, for what it’s worth. But yes he’s young and hasn’t had a proven career like Decastro
DeCastro is in the probowl every year.
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